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#181
18th January 2010, 08:45 PM
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 Really, the Together When performance was one of her best ones ever IMO, and the Rule one was almost flawless... The Sunrise one is far from being amazing, but she is singing in the way it's expected for the song If japanese people love ayu Dearest performances from 2001 and find Rule at kouhaku bad, I will agree with Namie... They don't think hard ^^ 
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#182
18th January 2010, 08:53 PM
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==> I found rule at kohaku pretty good, the voice was good and the perform was amazing. This article won't change the fact that Ayu is an amazing singer who is everywhere in the japanese music cultur and perhaps no body will do what she did and she does, she is already with the legends ^^ like Xjapan for visual kei =)
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#183
18th January 2010, 08:54 PM
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Sometimes we have just, the absolute amazing singer, and then other times we have people like Taylor Swift. Gaga for me is above average, but even I confused her voice for another singer back when she was still starting. --- In Ayu's case, with Japanese standards being what they are, I think they're being a little too hard on her considering the people they have in their industry...but I think theyre being quite influenced by Western Standards...which shouldnt really be applied since vocalists in Japan and America are really really different. I mean, we could probably find like 20 people out there who could sound like, say Beyonce, but we probably couldn't find 2 people in Japan that sound like Beyonce. While we could find 20 people in Japan that sound like Ayu...we couldnt find them here lol I don't know if they've thought about that though. It's kind of a touchy subject, isn't it lol But certainly interesting.
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#184
18th January 2010, 08:59 PM
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I definitely think she needs a loooong break, and after that break, some vocal lessons... But I think that the articles were very depressing... I mean, even though her voice isn't as good as it used to be, and it sounds very strained, it's not really as bad as a lot of people think it is, imo... I mean, she's still a singer, and she still has a much better voice than a lot of people I know! XD But still...Ayu, it's break time, I think...
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#185
18th January 2010, 09:01 PM
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^ I agree with those saying that her voice was the best from 2002-2006
Since when ayu can't match and hold high notes ? I think that she has problems since her left ear is deaf and it could be that her right ear isn't working 100% anymore.... She could have tinitus in her right ear or maybe her right ear is damaged by the concerts. So maybe she can't really hear herself well enough to realize how off key she is singing from time to time. And if she smokes hard her voice would be damaged and that is why she is out of breath, too. I really hope that ayu hasn't damaged her voice irrepairable, that would be horrible. Here are thoughts from my boyfriend: If we compare the drug scandal and the shrill voice, it is a bad view. It is just a possibility that the smoking mixture of Spice and cigarettes made her voice more shrill then morivana. morivana is a drug in japan but it is not impossible to get. Avex pushed her too much which has stressed her and she began to smoke to feel better. And the circle is perfect, the mixture kills her voice and she gets more frustrated and smokes.... Maybe she had problems with her voice because of her left ear.
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concerts I have attended: concerts I want to attend: Last edited by ayumi.hamasaki; 18th January 2010 at 09:03 PM.
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#186
18th January 2010, 09:01 PM
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I kinda agree with the article. Her voice's more powerful and deep now than the high-pitched voice of her early career, but in lives.. omg so disappointing
 It doesn't mean 'now we're realized that she has not talent' lol her voice is weak. Also deafness couldn't help. She should retire for.. a year or several months for training her voice as well. As other said 'we could live without tour, Ayu'  but FuNsTyLe have a good point. Avex milking the cash-cow D: (that's so gross  ) they won't risk to lose Ayu.
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#187
18th January 2010, 09:03 PM
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I think if she needs a break it's to look for a boyfriend, think to herself and rest for this maybe but she would die ^^ without her fans and her job ^^ don't forget She is a workaholic, it's all she has.
It's this, she is weak but like I said it would be so hard for her to stop for months and for Avex.....n_n
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#188
18th January 2010, 09:40 PM
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Well I'd still like to attend her concert
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#189
18th January 2010, 11:04 PM
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The funny part is that those articles make it sounds like someday Ayumi was praised as a vocalist by japanese public, what never happened...
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#190
18th January 2010, 11:10 PM
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i will be honest, i was never attracted to her voice, actually i thought she's horrible singer, i wont say that she didnt have good days and good performances, but they were never 'amazing' to me. it was amazing because of her charisma, her energy, her emotions, but if we are talking about singing talent and technique ayu doesnt have it in my eyes.
singing right is hard, its like 1% of talent and 99% of hard work, and its hard until you got used to it cuz whole body hurts, well everyone who attended some vocal lessons know. and it doesnt come after night, it takes years and years. i think ayu should consider taking vocal lessons, at least to not damage her voice fully..if its not too late. im just worried will articles like this (drugs included too) affect her career...
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#191
18th January 2010, 11:11 PM
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As long as Ayu has a fanbase, she'll never let herself quit. I hope the Japanese aren't too put off because of these articles; I'm certainly not, and am planning my trip to a future tour right this second! As for this being connected with the drug article, I hope people are intelligent enough to ignore that (though I realize that people who are predisposed to dislike her will take advantage of the situation).
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#192
18th January 2010, 11:51 PM
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one can only hope that her sales dump or that her tour flops big time so that she takes a rest. if not by will, then by force.
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#193
19th January 2010, 12:06 AM
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imo..japanese standarat voice is pitchy n high-pitched n they love those kind of voice..
LOL..
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#194
19th January 2010, 12:16 AM
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Well... I also think, her voice sometimes is really bad. But.. on some performances, it is quite good.
I also think, she need a break.. and some training. And well... until I like her Songs, and the recordings sounds good, it is ok for me.
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#195
19th January 2010, 12:24 AM
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Sometimes I wonder what Ayu thinks of her performances vocally? Maybe this will reach her and prompt her to do something about it. I think lately she's had her good performances and her bad ones. But when they're bad, they are BAD! D:
[EDIT] As I've said before, not to use this as an excuse, but I strongly believe that one of the factors in her disappointing vocals lately is her ear problem. Because I'm sure as many of you noticed, her voice was off in CDL 09-10 but when she sang Teddy Bear with only a piano (assuming she could hear herself) she sounded fine. Yes, Ayu needs to work on her voice, no question about that. But I really do think her not being able to hear (or breathe sometimes for that matter) are contributing factors as well. Last edited by jbrat2219; 19th January 2010 at 12:52 AM.
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#196
19th January 2010, 01:19 AM
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 if avex doesn't get ayu to bring in the green stuff..don't they still have other artists that can bring in tons of money like dbsk & exile, since their singles/albums/other stuff sell like bananas 
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#197
19th January 2010, 02:00 AM
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I've just re-watched the Rule at Kouhaku performance and to be completely honest I really don't see any difference to the way she sings now as she did 4 or 5 years ago. From RAINBOW ayu's voice has started getting lower and that happens to women as they get older (a woman's voice can break to you know, just not as drastically as a man's or as sudden). Personally I believe that ayu's voice has changed because I think she has taken up smoking. That just what I think. No shame in it but maybe ayu just wants to keep it to herself
The only time that I've heard ayu's vocals sound really bad what at the CDL07-08. They were really off pitch and kinda screechy. But I think since then her vocals have been pretty normal. I think that ayu's older voice was bad. During the Concert Tour I though it was terrible vocally! Her voice was all scratchy and nasally and just really awful. As for everyone saying that it could be related to the drug related thing, look at ayu. Does she look like she's on drugs?? You can tell when a person is jacked up on something and ayu is always so together. Sure she has her moments and stuff but seriously she's not high. If she was I doubt she'd even be able to perform at all. (and people are saying that she fell on Christmas Day last year cuz she was high? come on, it was Christmas, she was probably just drunk )
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#198
19th January 2010, 02:08 AM
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If she was high, it would affect her performance... and really, her performances are too controled to be done by someone on drugs...
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#199
19th January 2010, 02:17 AM
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But anyways, dont take your opinion as the opinion of Japan. She has been celebrated as the Singing Queen 歌姫 for many many years, until recently, when people started to really doubt the direction she is going.
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#200
19th January 2010, 02:24 AM
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^ So was Seiko Matsuda and she was also known for not being a strong live vocalist...
I'm not taking my opinion as Japan's opinion, I just read more than once, that she was never seen as a strong vocalist (but she was, and wouldn't be surprised if she still is, seen as a good songwriter, composer, performer and fashion icon)
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