New Single 「talkin' 2 myself」

[Kodayumi]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!

yesh!!!

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by evolusean

My money is on decision being a traditional B-side. While Will was also a B-side, it received A-side treatment (aside from having a PV, which many of Ayu's A-sides haven't had either) as it had an instrumental track featured on the single. According to this official statement on the website (which says the single will only be comprised of 3 tracks), it seems like the only song of the two which will have an instrumental is talkin' 2 myself.

"3 tracks" means 3 different songs not "3 versions"
which maybe like this:
1. talkin' to myself
2. decision
3. OLD SONG -remix-
4. ~ n. talkin' to myself/decision remixes
n. talkin' to myself -inst-
n. decision -inst-

Originally Posted by HELVENEUE

I have to complete disagree on the abbreviating. Most people just find themselves not saying the 'ng' part anymore.

Originally Posted by evolution7931

I agree. People who pronounce the -ing on every word end up sounding really akward.

Well, reason would say that this is probably because you are part of the group who use this style of speech and/or spelling. And I, as an educated adult who is an active member of the contemporary American society which sets these standards, have to say that cropping your speech is highly thought of as childish, uneducated, and not to be taken seriously. Again, I bring up the example of “Why can’t the English…?”.

Originally Posted by namiie

I don't think Will received A-side treatment....most A-sides have their titles included in the release title, and on CDJapan, YesAsia, in stores, etc the HEAVEN single was titled just that---"HEAVEN". I don't think I've ever seen it as "HEAVEN/Will"...she's also never performed "Will" live, like she's done with the other a-sides in the past few years.

Just as you quoted me: “it received A-side treatment … as it had an instrumental track featured on the single”. Ayu has always had complete disregard for music industry norms when it comes to A-sides and B-sides, so of course none of us can guess whether or not decision will appear on her upcoming album. I am making obvious speculation, and offering that, if Ayu at least follows her own standards (rather than the industry’s), decision is likely to be a pure B-side based solely on the fact that does not appear to be getting the same treatment as Will (as an album-appearing B-side) did previously. It’s only logical.

Originally Posted by truehappiness

That whole 3 tracks thing seems so blah, since there's still instrumentals and remixes to take into account. avex likes to use 'version' and not 'song' for the new other tracks of the single. Not sure why, but they do. That's not common in the Japanese music world, is it?

Originally Posted by Cloud

"3 tracks" means 3 different songs not "3 versions"

I just saw that the site has updated since its original post. The initial update said: 3曲収録予定 (“3 tracks planned”) for the CD (which meant that two of which were talkin’ 2 myself and decision, with 1 additional track), and 2曲収録予定 (“2 tracks planned”) for the DVD (which meant both PVs). The new update clarifies, saying ほかリミックス曲含む3曲収録予定 (“An additional 3 tracks planned, including [a remix/remixes]”). This changes the scape of the single greatly. So now we know there will be the two core songs, and 3 additional tracks. I hope the suplementary tracks are two remixes and an instrumental, but we’ll see how it goes…

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I don't think that she did it to appear trashy or uneducated, but to try and abbreviate it in some way. Look at Yuna Ito who is a native English speaker and Utada Hikaru. They had "losin" and "Keep Tryin'" but you don't see many people panicking about that (or not.)

I’m not creating a panic, but I’m turned off and disappointed. Like I said, Ayu (just as Hikki and Yuna Ito) is in the Japanese market where the overwhelming masses (speaking Japanese) wouldn’t know any different. Guaranteed Ayu herself doesn’t understand the nuance of her titling. I don’t know Yuna Ito well enough to judge, but Utada Hikaru’s sound is significantly more urban and casual than Ayu’s, and Tryin’ fits her style; this type of speech is embraced in urban music and art. When paired with Ayu, however, who has a more traditionally poetic style, it just sounds like she is trying to be overly American without understanding how these things really work. It makes it feel like another silly song she made because it’s her job, when she used to take her music so seriously as expression.

Originally Posted by veggie

coelacanth i like the rockish songs of ayus i really love 1 love and, until that day, because of you, kiss o kill, alterna, about you, and game and i hope it is some "headbanding nonsense" i really like that style for ayu because in my opinion the live preformances and PV are better are better not to say that her other preformances and PV are not good because all of hers are GREAT but when preformed 1 love and until that day live her preformance was WONDERFUL she came up on the stage traped in a cage the she pole dances just look at my avatar and in kiss o kill she came up on a cross and one time when she was preforming alterna she was in a huge metal ball suspended in mid air dressed in a zebra looking costume and in one part she was literally hanging out of the metal ball and in about you she was in a chain cage thing that she pulled down with her human power strenght how can it get any better i mean i just love that style for ayu!

Your post has next to no punctuation or proper capitalization. It is very difficult and frustrating to read.

[~X2RADialbomber~]

I agree with most of your points evolusean, and it really irritates me when people use the number '2' for the word 'to', especially when they're not fluent in English.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by evolusean

I just saw that the site has updated since its original post. The initial update said: 3曲収録予定 (“3 tracks planned”) for the CD (which meant that two of which were talkin’ 2 myself and decision, with 1 additional track), and 2曲収録予定 (“2 tracks planned”) for the DVD (which meant both PVs). The new update clarifies, saying ほかリミックス曲含む3曲収録予定 (“An additional 3 tracks planned, including [a remix/remixes]”). This changes the scape of the single greatly. So now we know there will be the two core songs, and 3 additional tracks. I hope the suplementary tracks are two remixes and an instrumental, but we’ll see how it goes…

no.... "ほかリミックス曲含む3曲収録予定" means there will be totally three title songs, including remixes...

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by evolusean

I just saw that the site has updated since its original post. The initial update said: 3曲収録予定 (“3 tracks planned”) for the CD (which meant that two of which were talkin’ 2 myself and decision, with 1 additional track), and 2曲収録予定 (“2 tracks planned”) for the DVD (which meant both PVs). The new update clarifies, saying ほかリミックス曲含む3曲収録予定 (“An additional 3 tracks planned, including [a remix/remixes]”). This changes the scape of the single greatly. So now we know there will be the two core songs, and 3 additional tracks. I hope the suplementary tracks are two remixes and an instrumental, but we’ll see how it goes…

I didn't notice that. I was just going off of what happened last time! :p

And about the titling thing... maybe there'll be some sort of design in the single's logo that'll incorporate the 2 better than a to? I think that she could've gone with the G instead of cutting it off, but then again, this is Ayu after an emotional breakup.. so perhaps typical Ayu is not something to be expected?

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I didn't notice that. I was just going off of what happened last time! :p

And about the titling thing... maybe there'll be some sort of design in the single's logo that'll incorporate the 2 better than a to? I think that she could've gone with the G instead of cutting it off, but then again, this is Ayu after an emotional breakup.. so perhaps typical Ayu is not something to be expected?

I think "talkin' 2 myself" just looks better than "talking 2(to) myself" but I don't know why.
although I prefer "DECISION" to "decision"..

[q_case2alterna]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Translation of what? D:?

translation of the news of course......

前作「 glitter / fated 」がオリコン初登場1位を獲得し、
女性アーティストSINGLE部門の5冠目となる記録を達成した浜崎あゆみ。
通算42枚目となる、秋のNEW SINGLEが早くも発売!

[Ani_C]

=_= I came home to this? Ah well, as long as they're good songs right? (They better be seeing as the titles are laaame xD decision is actually okay though xD)

[Impracticable]

i like lowercase decision but i think talkin' 2 myself looks better than talking to myself as well.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by q_case2alterna

translation of the news of course......

It looks like it just says "New single releasing after former single "glitter/fated" reached no.1 on the Oricon charts yadda yadda making another record for her and a new 42nd single will release in autumn!" :\

[JaysenRyan]

My god people, how can you turn something so simple as a new Ayu single, and nitpick every last friggin detail and turn it into something completely...well.....idk...

Ayu's making a new single, all cheer, prayers answered, listen, llove it, live it, sing it, deal with it, move on.....

[namiie]

Originally Posted by Impracticable

CREA songs are definitly her best to me, Humming 7/4, HANABI, HANABI ~Episode II~, Heartplace, M, I am..., RAINBOW, Endless Sorrow, NEVER EVER, etc

Those are all some of my favorite songs to listen ...

Haha I didn't like NEVER EVER's composition (lyrics are good though) or Humming's...Free & Easy and Will are some of her best (even though she had help on composition).

Originally Posted by evolusean

Just as you quoted me: “it received A-side treatment … as it had an instrumental track featured on the single”. Ayu has always had complete disregard for music industry norms when it comes to A-sides and B-sides, so of course none of us can guess whether or not decision will appear on her upcoming album. I am making obvious speculation, and offering that, if Ayu at least follows her own standards (rather than the industry’s), decision is likely to be a pure B-side based solely on the fact that does not appear to be getting the same treatment as Will (as an album-appearing B-side) did previously. It’s only logical.

I think Ayu's goal for including the "Will" instrumental was that she co-composed it herself and wanted people to notice it more than traditional b-sides. She might have noticed that her vibrato/vocals in general on that track are quite solid and thus wanted to put it on an album to showcase her progress.

The way I see it (guessing only), if Ayu had a hand in "decision"'s composition, it may be likely that THAT instrumental might be included too on the next single as well as the song itself being on the next album. In that sense, yes, I agree with you. Ayu DOES disregard the industry's usual a-side/b-side regulations since she sets her own standards for including songs on albums/putting their instrumentals on singles. However, regarding your thought that "decision" will remain a 'pure b-side'.... Ayu might make a last-minute choice to change the way "decision" is included in the upcoming single/album. She switched "Secret" from a mini to a full-length album on us last year. Unless a FULL tracklisting (including all three missing songs)/credits are available now, it's in my opinion that the "only logical" thing to do is not to classify anything as purely this or that yet. Already we've seen that the DVD will contain a video clip for "decision", which would be considered a-side status.

Ah, who knows. We'll find out when we find out.

[truehappiness]

I'm still not used to the title of decision.

I was like "What is everyone talking about?" for a second. Ahaha.

[evolution7931]

Originally Posted by evolusean

Well, reason would say that this is probably because you are part of the group who use this style of speech and/or spelling. And I, as an educated adult who is an active member of the contemporary American society which sets these standards, have to say that cropping your speech is highly thought of as childish, uneducated, and not to be taken seriously. Again, I bring up the example of “Why can’t the English…?”.

Excuse me? "Cropping your speech is highly thought of as childish, uneducated, and not to be taken seriously" BY WHO? I'd also like to point out that stressing the -ing on every word you speak is also highly thought of as akward, snobbish, unflowing and unnecessary. Don't ask me who thinks that, I have my sources.

I'd like to know where you're from and what English dialect you even use. Just because in some other dialects the "-ing" is not stressed and is sometimes pronounced as "-in" does not make the people who speak those dialects uneducated OR childish. Obviously that's just your personal opinion.

[truehappiness]

You know, there's always the possibility of a quick-change.. maybe? :p

GLITTER was switched to glitter in a day or two.. :\

[namiie]

Originally Posted by JaysenRyan

My god people, how can you turn something so simple as a new Ayu single, and nitpick every last friggin detail and turn it into something completely...well.....idk...

Ayu's making a new single, all cheer, prayers answered, listen, llove it, live it, sing it, deal with it, move on.....

'Cause it's called discussion and I was under the impression that a forum is a place for discussion? Maybe we're just as perfectionistic as Ayu herself appears to be. Whether or not it's been "turned into" anything is subjective. You're not obligated to read the nitpickiness if you don't want to

Ayu's making a new single. Listen, make up your mind about it, talk about it if you want, move on. That's how I see it.

[evolution7931]

But the people who reported it as GLITTER weren't avex, were they?

[JaysenRyan]

Originally Posted by namiie;1163182
[B

Ayu's making a new single. Listen, make up your mind about it, talk about it if you want, move on. That's how I see it.[/B]

i could have sworn thats what i had said lol.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by evolution7931

But the people who reported it as GLITTER weren't avex, were they?

The news did report it first, but then they all eventually corrected it..