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Old 6th April 2012, 11:31 AM
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it's all speculation, it was in some articles or something, but it could be true, since he hasn't said anything
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Old 6th April 2012, 12:41 PM
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I love how it's OK and funny when Mannie posts an e-card which highly implies that ayu is a psycho, and how it's even funnier when Mannie's friend posts something that offends a LOT of ayu fans, and ayu herself. But on the other hand, you'll be called a stupid idiot when you decide to stick to ayu and realize that this all is not funny, but rather pathetic and degrading.

As for the angry (lowlife) ayu stan vs. Mannie:

Attention wh0re wants attention, Attention wh0re gets attention. ★ Mannie practically was begging for it.
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I love how it's OK and funny when Mannie posts an e-card which highly implies that ayu is a psycho, and how it's even funnier when Mannie's friend posts something that offends a LOT of ayu fans, and ayu herself. But on the other hand, you'll be called a stupid idiot when you decide to stick to ayu and realize that this all is not funny, but rather pathetic and degrading.

As for the angry (lowlife) ayu stan vs. Mannie:

Attention wh0re wants attention, Attention wh0re gets attention. ★ Mannie practically was begging for it.
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I love how it's OK and funny when Mannie posts an e-card which highly implies that ayu is a psycho, and how it's even funnier when Mannie's friend posts something that offends a LOT of ayu fans, and ayu herself. But on the other hand, you'll be called a stupid idiot when you decide to stick to ayu and realize that this all is not funny, but rather pathetic and degrading.

As for the angry (lowlife) ayu stan vs. Mannie:

Attention wh0re wants attention, Attention wh0re gets attention. ★ Mannie practically was begging for it.
If Mannie was seeking for attention with that post, people who went into his facebook to atack him are idiots, as they give him what he wanted.


If Mannie posted that cuz he is bitter of their divorce, people who went into his facebook to atack him are psycho, as they are stalking someone who they have to reason at all to follow, to begin with...


If Mannie posted that cuz he find it funny, without really thinking about Ayu and not aiming this to her at all, people who went into his facebook to atack him are also psycho, as they believe his life is set around Ayu.


Either way, the most Mannie and his friend aren't right on this situation, neither are the lowlife Ayu fans who bothered about it to the point of blowing it out of the water. Mannie was talking about his ex, even if it was uncalled for... His friend was defending a friend, even if he was rude (and racist ~~'), but Ayu fans basing their actions on their love for someone they don't know at all, and that IMO, is even more bizarre...

And yeah, surprisingly, sometimes both sides can be wrong
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I love how it's OK and funny when Mannie posts an e-card which highly implies that ayu is a psycho, and how it's even funnier when Mannie's friend posts something that offends a LOT of ayu fans, and ayu herself. But on the other hand, you'll be called a stupid idiot when you decide to stick to ayu and realize that this all is not funny, but rather pathetic and degrading.

As for the angry (lowlife) ayu stan vs. Mannie:

Attention wh0re wants attention, Attention wh0re gets attention. ★ Mannie practically was begging for it.
**** them all, Ayu is forever alone cuz we need some good Ayu depressing ****
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I love how people can say "Well at least Ayu made a lovely last statement about this, and LOOK AT HIS FRIEND OMG WAT how rude!!!!!11"

This was on his personal Facebook guys, seriously. His friends are probably really frustrated at this whole situation - I know I would be, if I was in their place - and they were just standing up for their friend. I don't think it was anything more. By the way the guy typed that, it seems Mannie has asked his friends not to talk about it or say anything to the fans that post on his page negatively.

Also, Ayu's little ~scratched out couple photo~ in Return Road's PV is 1000x more disrespectful to the whole divorce situation than this. If Mannie had done that in any of his work fans would go ****ing crazy. All of Ayu's fans were bound to see her stunt at some point, where as only those who added Mannie as a friend were going to see his friend's personal views.
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I love how people can say "Well at least Ayu made a lovely last statement about this, and LOOK AT HIS FRIEND OMG WAT how rude!!!!!11"

This was on his personal Facebook guys, seriously. His friends are probably really frustrated at this whole situation - I know I would be, if I was in their place - and they were just standing up for their friend. I don't think it was anything more. By the way the guy typed that, it seems Mannie has asked his friends not to talk about it or say anything to the fans that post on his page negatively.

Also, Ayu's little ~scratched out couple photo~ in Return Road's PV is 1000x more disrespectful to the whole divorce situation than this. If Mannie had done that in any of his work fans would go ****ing crazy. All of Ayu's fans were bound to see her stunt at some point, where as only those who added Mannie as a friend were going to see his friend's personal views.
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I love how people can say "Well at least Ayu made a lovely last statement about this, and LOOK AT HIS FRIEND OMG WAT how rude!!!!!11"

This was on his personal Facebook guys, seriously. His friends are probably really frustrated at this whole situation - I know I would be, if I was in their place - and they were just standing up for their friend. I don't think it was anything more. By the way the guy typed that, it seems Mannie has asked his friends not to talk about it or say anything to the fans that post on his page negatively.

Also, Ayu's little ~scratched out couple photo~ in Return Road's PV is 1000x more disrespectful to the whole divorce situation than this. If Mannie had done that in any of his work fans would go ****ing crazy. All of Ayu's fans were bound to see her stunt at some point, where as only those who added Mannie as a friend were going to see his friend's personal views.

This is directed to me lol And I don't agree with everything you said, but whatever

I'm really over this tbh, so meh.
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This is directed to me lol And I don't agree with everything you said, but whatever
I did kinda quote what you said from earlier, but it was more that it stuck in the back of my mind whilst typing it~
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Also, Ayu's little ~scratched out couple photo~ in Return Road's PV is 1000x more disrespectful to the whole divorce situation than this. If Mannie had done that in any of his work fans would go ****ing crazy.
I agree. It's disrespectful, tacky and it feels like it is a PR trick.
But the Pv is not that good anyway, soo I just ignore it the dmn thing.

There's been amazing posts from emi♡ and andrenekoi, I agree with them completely.
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I love how people can say "Well at least Ayu made a lovely last statement about this, and LOOK AT HIS FRIEND OMG WAT how rude!!!!!11"

This was on his personal Facebook guys, seriously. His friends are probably really frustrated at this whole situation - I know I would be, if I was in their place - and they were just standing up for their friend. I don't think it was anything more. By the way the guy typed that, it seems Mannie has asked his friends not to talk about it or say anything to the fans that post on his page negatively.

Also, Ayu's little ~scratched out couple photo~ in Return Road's PV is 1000x more disrespectful to the whole divorce situation than this. If Mannie had done that in any of his work fans would go ****ing crazy. All of Ayu's fans were bound to see her stunt at some point, where as only those who added Mannie as a friend were going to see his friend's personal views.
yea, it surprised to see ayu using the blurred pic of her and mannie.. it's kinda sad.. and suck for Mannie..

in the end, both sides are wrong!

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I love how it's OK and funny when Mannie posts an e-card which highly implies that ayu is a psycho, and how it's even funnier when Mannie's friend posts something that offends a LOT of ayu fans, and ayu herself. But on the other hand, you'll be called a stupid idiot when you decide to stick to ayu and realize that this all is not funny, but rather pathetic and degrading.

As for the angry (lowlife) ayu stan vs. Mannie:

Attention wh0re wants attention, Attention wh0re gets attention. ★ Mannie practically was begging for it.
"highly implies". No, it doesn't actually.

"stick to ayu". Yeah, sure. All the Mannie haters, which are most likely people who always hated him in the first place, sure are doing their part to support Ayu by disrespecting her choice in who to live her life around and disrespecting her wishes to not harass her ex-husband.

Supporting Mannie was never about supporting Mannie, it was about supporting Ayu.

And right now, it's about supporting his right to put on facebook whatever the hell he wants without having to have crazy Ayu fans jump down his throat...especially when any relation between the post and ayu is pure speculation


Anyways, his friend's post was in poor taste...and it WAS funny...but no one even cares about that guy anyway, so why should people be mad about it.
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"highly implies". No, it doesn't actually.
Yes, it does actually. It depends on how people interpret this, and there are many people who know that Mannie's been in 1 marriage and no more; so one might only find it logical to see ayu as the only link, seen the fact that she was Mannie's first 'wife'. Then again the e-card can be read in another way, but imo I don't think that's what Mannie meant especially since the divorce wasn't long ago.

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"stick to ayu". Yeah, sure. All the Mannie haters, which are most likely people who always hated him in the first place, sure are doing their part to support Ayu by disrespecting her choice in who to live her life around and disrespecting her wishes to not harass her ex-husband.
No wrong, not all the Mannie haters stick to her. I speak for myself now; I used to like him because he was cool at the time I guess? Even after the divorce I felt for him and ****. But this is so unbelievable wrong, that I don't care for him anymore at all. The only thing I keep talking about is this actually, otherwise he was forgotten. Many people are offended by this and I'm sure that they aren't Mannie haters or something as ridiculous as that.

The worst part is that the only thing most followers got from Mannie was, the weird tweets and the photos were he was laughing the same way again and again. He definitely came over as a nice guy, a bit mischievous but still. And then boom divorce and now this. What? I just mean like, even if it wasn't about ayu it could be about idk someone, and then he intends to hurt someone. (I know for a fact that I wouldn't liked to be called a psycho on Facebook with a *bleep*load of people who can like the post)

And it's most unfortunate that there are actually people who scold Mannie at his facebook for this, but when you post something offensive it's bound to happen that people will bash you... (Don't get me wrong, I don't support this at all)

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Supporting Mannie was never about supporting Mannie, it was about supporting Ayu.

And right now, it's about supporting his right to put on facebook whatever the hell he wants without having to have crazy Ayu fans jump down his throat...especially when any relation between the post and ayu is pure speculation
It's as much speculation as saying that his post wasn't about ayu at all. And the guy obviously did it because he's mad or wants attention or something like that. It's inevitable that people are going to be mad at him as well. So he was asking for it if you ask me. Sure, sad that it had to go as far as how it did now, but still...

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Anyways, his friend's post was in poor taste...and it WAS funny...but no one even cares about that guy anyway, so why should people be mad about it.
No, thats subjective. I didn't think it was funny at all, but rather offensive and another scream for attention. But I guess that there are people like you with this specific kind of humor and others who know what's objectively funny and what's not.

I feel my interest in this thread dying everytime I enter, but I still keep posting lol. Need to stop!
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No, thats subjective. I didn't think it was funny at all, but rather offensive and another scream for attention. But I guess that there are people like you with this specific kind of humor and others who know what's objectively funny and what's not.
Ummm, humor is ALWAYS subjective.

And I personally did find it funny myself. I'm also 90% sure it's true too.

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lol yes, it IS as much speculation as saying it didn't have to do with ayu. Aren't people usually innocent until proven guilty?

So many of your opinions here are based on that whole idea of interpretation.


It's just baffling to me that people can hold so incredibly to their views, when there's no facts at all lol However, it's only half surprising that so many people immediately wanted to demonize him without knowing anything and be stupid that way.

Whatever floats your boat.
But like, we KNOW Ayu. We're as close to her as the guy she married because we've been fans for years and therefore we know only she can be right. God. What more proof do you need?

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But like, we KNOW Ayu. We're as close to her as the guy she married because we've been fans for years and therefore we know only she can be right. God. What more proof do you need?

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This is a proof of how fame and money can turn up against you. Ayu is a diva indeed, but it makes me sad how little she adapted to her situation indeed. Money is not all in life certainly...

And seriously, this is turning out truly pathetic. Stupid ayu stans who can't take a joke from someone who is clearly hurted still and insult him on facebook, and mannie's buddies that act indeed childish and impusively.
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I just wonder how much of what his friend said is really true and what was said purely based on anger. While it could all be true, it could also be a load of bs. Like any situation there is always three sides and in this case it's Ayu's, Mannie's and the truth. While I do feel that Mannie had every right to share that image even if it was directed at Ayu because he's bitter he's not completely innocent when it comes to their divorce. It take's two people to get married and teo to get divorced as well. He could have fought to keep as hard as he possibly could and maybe he did but once again we don't know. How ever the same goes for Ayu as she's not innocent in all this either... well maybe in this situation since some of her fans attacked her ex and not her. I'm sure even Ayu might be a little steamed that we just didn't leave the situation be.

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This is a proof of how fame and money can turn up against you. Ayu is a diva indeed, but it makes me sad how little she adapted to her situation indeed. Money is not all in
But do we really know how much she truly tried to adapt? None us were with her so we can't really judge and neither can Mannie's friend since I doubt even he was there every moment with them.
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lol yes, it IS as much speculation as saying it didn't have to do with ayu. Aren't people usually innocent until proven guilty?

So many of your opinions here are based on that whole idea of interpretation.


It's just baffling to me that people can hold so incredibly to their views, when there's no facts at all lol However, it's only half surprising that so many people immediately wanted to demonize him without knowing anything and be stupid that way.

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