Thoughts on PCDL '08-'09

[waterballoon]

Originally Posted by majrakun

Oh man, will this be another lipsyncing "discussion" thread? Why can't we just keep it in the "Thoughts on PCDL" thread. It's where it originated from. Those observations were already mentioned over there too. :/

Precisely. Now let's talk about the REAL mistakes. Like her horrendous furry pink bath robe *** FAIRY PRINCESS costume in ANGEL'S SONG. Or the weirdo costume Shu-ya has on HOPE or PAIN... O.o

P.S: ZIN has bigger pecs than Shu-ya and Maro has sexier hair than Shu-ya! Uh-oh...

[LEOyumi]

Originally Posted by alternarist

to be honest, i thought most parts of the songs were lip synched.

I felt that with most of the songs she uses the headmic.. ANGEL'S SONG was the funniest part LOL

[Ayumi27]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

Precisely. Now let's talk about the REAL mistakes. Like her horrendous furry pink bath robe *** FAIRY PRINCESS costume in ANGEL'S SONG.

Haha, that costume was terrible!

[truehappiness]

The "Over" thing is apparently not really seeable, as you could say that the first "It's over" was actually played back, and when she's putting the mic to her mouth it's to sing the next part of the song. And as others have said, the file is about 500milliseconds late/early [Dunno which one.]

I think this thread should be merged with the other one, since it's mainly talking about what's been going on there since the PCDL first aired.

[maaya]

in ANGEL'S SONG is too obiviously that she lip synched

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

*hint hint* Might Maro replace Shu-ya? Oh the sad lives of these transient dancers!

Nah , well Im thinking maybe Maro will replace him in the future or they might share the lead role thingy, but for now still looks like Shuya is the lead guy. After the chinese tabloids, TA messages, and the pics on zins blog, majrakun was like "oh noo shuya isn't going to be in lead roles anymore!!!" and i was like "of course he will calm down!!!". See Maj, all is well

Maro looked really good in GREEN, Im glad Ayu picked him. Atleast no Midoring, finally I can listen to the song again with a different image popping up into my head

[truehappiness]

I think that with the advent of the "lol, do I have a thing with Shuya?" thing on her blog, she probably stuck Maro in that position. Obviously, Shuya had like every solo prior, so why now? lol.

I'd have to say that the outfits that people generally hate [leopard/cheetah print and fairy princess] are like, totally Ayu. I mean, this woman has dressed up in just about every kind of costume imaginable by now, she's bound to dip into the realm of what looks good to her/doesn't look good to the general public.. lol.

[waterballoon]

^ Lol. I bet during the rehearsals, Ayu went like,

"Okay so Maro will do the GREEN dance cos he spins like a monkey, Shu-ya will be my lead man in my emo songs cos he's like so hot, Go-mi will be my gay/magician cos yeah he is one . and Subaru and Ryoji... oh hmm oh hmm..."

[truehappiness]

I sorta wonder if Ayu assigns them these roles... since usually choreographers tend to choose who dances with who based on who they think looks good together. But this is Ayu, so she'll probably obviously have favorites and people she'd want to dance with.. oi. Why Shu-ya of all people? Why not switch it up every concert? lol.

On the topic of dancers, I feel rather sad for the female dancers that didn't advance past CDL07-08.. that is, if those dancers were taken out or if they quit in general.. probably the former.

Oh oh, and about ANGEL'S SONG.. was it generally the same as the AT03-04 performance?

Oh, I see now. It's supposed to be kind of like that Ladies Night / alterna interlude thing.. but not really. Seems like Ayu's specialty is NOT these cutesy songs.. or it's rather difficult to come up with scenarios with them included in it [see: Beautiful Fighters / this ANGEL'S SONG..] though AT03-04's A DINER made sense whereas this was just.. attempting to remake the interlude-thing for the stage. And I kind of see what they did there.. she's supposed to be celebrating her 10th anniversary in this song with like, a magician and a cake, and a wacky outfit with ANGEL'S SONG. But I guess with Ayu not being 10 years old, it definitely looks.. strange.

It's highly likely that this lipsynching thing was just a bad case of lipsynching the chorus (which she definitely messed up) and singing the verses to me.. I guess it's because I hear a sort of echo when the verses are being sung, while the choruses lack it.

[waterballoon]

The one thing I find the strangest in both AT 03-04 and PCDL is that the very last word of ANGEL'S SONG (at least according to the CD) is "mo"... but in all the lives, she sings "ru"... did she change the lyrics or something?

And I reckon the choreographer (Peco right?) decides the dancers and all that first, and Ayu steps in to make some tweaks, to her liking. Cool.

[truehappiness]

Ayu seems to utilize Chiharu and Etsu more than Peco, I imagine.. so I think Chiharu and Etsu might choreograph the "Ayu x ______" dance routines, while Peco seems to be more associated with the group dances like INSPIRE and such.

Fun fact! Peco did the stuff for the recent Ponyo on a Cliff performance at Kouhaku!

[mikecavs11]

its only possible to see these things on live tv, they'll probably cut out that angle on the dvd

[waterballoon]

^ Stuff? The dancing? I hope she's not the voice of Ponyo... O.o

[stepYOU1234]

I really like what I have seen so far. Nice to see Ayu dancing again and to see loads of old songs/ones I never thought would be performed again (I had given up on HONEY, it was performed once at AT05 so I assumed that was it and it would never see light again!)
Been listening to the live mp3 a lot! Lots of them seem more powerful/ better arrangement when live. I like Vogue with the longer intro (my favourite part of the song) and Powder Snow has such a kick to it. Speaking of which, anyone feel that Powder Snow would have gone better with Ayu walking along the whole catwalk to the beat? Might just be me, but I have been listening to it while walking and I think it would have been nice...

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Ayu seems to utilize Chiharu and Etsu more than Peco, I imagine.. so I think Chiharu and Etsu might choreograph the "Ayu x ______" dance routines, while Peco seems to be more associated with the group dances like INSPIRE and such.

I'm probably wrong but I don't think Chiharu and Etsu is involved with choreography anymore. We've hardly seen them since 2007, and since Zin & Kayannochi are much more involved with the dance choreography its possible they replaced them. Might make more sense since Zin and Shuya are close friends (came from the same dance school) and perhaps Zin picks Shuya for the solo roles. Or maybe Ayu shows favoritism to Shuya.

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

It's highly likely that this lipsynching thing was just a bad case of lipsynching the chorus (which she definitely messed up) and singing the verses to me.. I guess it's because I hear a sort of echo when the verses are being sung, while the choruses lack it.

I would think that if that were the case, you would likely hear more of a clear difference between how the choruses and verses sound - to me though, they sound like they flow perfectly together. Another possible telling thing I think is that in Real Me and I believe and then/naturally as well, you can at least hear some breath sounds but in some of the other head set mic songs you don't really hear anything at all.

Originally Posted by Ayumi_lover

^SunshineSlayer, sorry for bothering, but what about PCDL from other source?)))) We're really looking forward to see it

Frankly, I had kinda lost my motivation for continuing to try and get it. But, I still tried again last night anyways and finally actually had some luck. Expect to see it waiting for approval at Jpopsuki in a few minutes.

[truehappiness]

I'm probably wrong but I don't think Chiharu and Etsu is involved with choreography anymore. We've hardly seen them since 2007

Even though you don't see them, that doesn't mean that they aren't working with her. Generally, we don't see them much to begin with, but they seem to be around whenever Ayu is planning concerts.

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Even though you don't see them, that doesn't mean that they aren't working with her. Generally, we don't see them much to begin with, but they seem to be around whenever Ayu is planning concerts.

Figured maybe since they're quite old now that they were done with the whole dance choreography thing LOL

[SunshineSlayer]

Originally Posted by lfebaggins

Figured maybe since they're quite old now that they were done with the whole dance choreography thing LOL

They still perform and choreograph as part of TRF all of the time.

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

They still perform and choreograph as part of TRF all of the time.

I dun keep up with them I wasn't sure TRF is still active.