[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~LOVE again~

[brener]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

The tour will promote the album...

tours doesnt boost her album sales if it's that what you mean..

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by brener

tours doesnt boost her album sales if it's that what you mean..

Not on Oricon as it only count 1/3 of the venue sales... Still, for Ayu and Avex sales are sales, counted by Oricon or not.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

I disagree with people saying that Japanese people don't like ayu anymore. They love her and want her to do well most of the time, they just have the same problem that some of us in here do, we wanna support her but the latest releases were a joke.

They love going to her concerts, buying her goods, even if they are illegal ones from outside of the venues, etc.

I think that once she gets it right we will know, right now her team is lacking a lot and it shows, and she's allowing that to happen, so I guess we better wait until she actually takes over her artistic direction once again.

AVEX is just milking her desperately just how they're trying to milk what's left of other of their artists *hm hm* Ami Suzuki.

[js_surrealism]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

I disagree with people saying that Japanese people don't like ayu anymore. They love her and want her to do well most of the time, they just have the same problem that some of us in here do, we wanna support her but the latest releases were a joke.

She released some of her best music in 5 years with her 2 most recent albums (Party Queen and LOVE again), I don't see how her releases 'were a joke'. The problem is really just that she is no longer as relevant or as current in terms of popularity. It just happens, this is entertainment, tastes are fickle, they change, you can't always be at the top of your game.

[KarenPang]

I honestly don't think LOVE & again were releases that considered as a joke as I admit that the material for both contains some of her best stuff in recent times

It's just that I really disliked the way this whole 15th anniversary campaign was going towards , direction wise . At 1st no doubt about it when this was announced , I was excited but along the way , somehow or another , things got lost if not screwed up very badly

Didn't helped matters that Maro was dragged into all this & isn't it way too concidence he starred in You & Me , Wake Me Up & snowy kiss which coincides with the release of again (and A SUMMER BEST) ? It's the same when Mannie also starred in Virgin Road , Last angel & Love song prior to the release of Love songs which's like deja vu all over

She didn't need any form of unwanted publicity to sell records back then (especially when she was with Nagase for such a long time prior to their breakup) , I don't know why in recent times this has happened . I don't need that coming from her at all which makes her look a bit desperate & somehow or another even though the quality of her music to me is still there , professional wise ... it's a different thing altogether

[miru2590]

Originally Posted by KarenPang

I honestly don't think LOVE & again were releases that considered as a joke as I admit that the material for both contains some of her best stuff in recent times

It's just that I really disliked the way this whole 15th anniversary campaign was going towards , direction wise . At 1st no doubt about it when this was announced , I was excited but along the way , somehow or another , things got lost if not screwed up very badly

Didn't helped matters that Maro was dragged into all this & isn't it way too concidence he starred in You & Me , Wake Me Up & snowy kiss which coincides with the release of again (and A SUMMER BEST) ? It's the same when Mannie also starred in Virgin Road , Last angel & Love song prior to the release of Love songs which's like deja vu all over

She didn't need any form of unwanted publicity to sell records back then (especially when she was with Nagase for such a long time prior to their breakup) , I don't know why in recent times this has happened . I don't need that coming from her at all which makes her look a bit desperate & somehow or another even though the quality of her music to me is still there , professional wise ... it's a different thing altogether

I agree.

[calltome]

^I second that

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by js_surrealism

She released some of her best music in 5 years with her 2 most recent albums (Party Queen and LOVE again), I don't see how her releases 'were a joke'. The problem is really just that she is no longer as relevant or as current in terms of popularity. It just happens, this is entertainment, tastes are fickle, they change, you can't always be at the top of your game.

I was referring to the release pattern, not the songs themselves.

[C+R+E+AYUMI]

the fact she still reaches #1 in rankings it's the testimony japanese still like her

[saigodansu]

She reached #1 because no one else releasing at the time has any popularity to speak of. Her sales are horrible and the lack of fans compared to 2 years ago shows alot.

And as far as her taking charge like b4, she never was in charge. That whole documentary was staged and when they got any footage Avex didn't want anyone knowing about they were asked for the film and to refilm it especially interview segments where things Ayu answered something in a way her managers didn't like and it was redone. If you're ever around her and her staff, try to carry on a normal conversation and watch closely. She acts like she can't answer even a very simple question without checking with a manager first, that's far from ever being in control.

[RadnasticReggie]

I feel the album is too .. safe. I want her to release something fun, upbeat and amazing. Whatever happened to Memorial Address? Or even something like the beginning of PQ. I would love for her to come out with a more dancey album, to see what she could do when really experimenting.

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by RadnasticReggie

I feel the album is too .. safe. I want her to release something fun, upbeat and amazing. Whatever happened to Memorial Address? Or even something like the beginning of PQ. I would love for her to come out with a more dancey album, to see what she could do when really experimenting.

15th anniversary was all about celebrating the past, hence the nostalgic type-album with very familiar Ayu sounds. I think I would have enjoyed it more if she hadn't done the same thing a few years back with the Love songs era.

Now that this is over and done with, her next release should go back to pushing the envelope a bit more. This is where Ayu shines. It's not necessaily going to translate to sales, but its when she's pushing the envelope that she makes her best music as of late.

And with these dismal sales, nobody's going to be pressuring her to create familiar nostalgic-type songs that the Japanese should love. It clearly didn't work in this instance if that was Avex's goals.

[YUKARI]

yeah, she seriously needs to make some upbeat hit :/

[ayumint]

^as STEPyou or sparkle seriously

[mizuki-7]

She reached #1 because no one else releasing at the time has any popularity to speak of. Her sales are horrible and the lack of fans compared to 2 years ago shows alot.

And as far as her taking charge like b4, she never was in charge. That whole documentary was staged and when they got any footage Avex didn't want anyone knowing about they were asked for the film and to refilm it especially interview segments where things Ayu answered something in a way her managers didn't like and it was redone. If you're ever around her and her staff, try to carry on a normal conversation and watch closely. She acts like she can't answer even a very simple question without checking with a manager first, that's far from ever being in control.

Of course if there were more competition she would not have been number one but the week before Mika Nakashima was number one with less than Ayu did and no one complains people should stop this thing ! A lot of artist would not have been number one if there were more competition ...we're not going to condemn her for being number 1 with 50 K O_o

I don't know why you bring this story about this documentary ? this has nothing to do with how she works and creates her music !! When we see the making of her concerts we can see that she control all aspect of her shows ! what you try to say is a bit out of context IMO !

[SolarAngel]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

Of course if there were more competition she would not have been number one but the week before Mika Nakashima was number one with less than Ayu did and no one complains people should stop this thing ! A lot of artist would not have been number one if there were more competition ...we're not going to condemn her for being number 1 with 50 K O_o

I wouldn't call it condemning her being number 1. It's hard to feel very proud of it as the sales figures by itself is very low. A case like boys & girls where Ayu got number 2 but very high actual sales figures would be a much happier problem.

[brener]

3rd Week
1st Day
Position: #1
Sales: 1,066

yay!!

[owlflight]

Definitely YAY! And I get my copy today! Go Ayu!

[Yoshiaki]

Originally Posted by brener

3rd Week
1st Day
Position: #1
Sales: 1,066

yay!!

Yea! That's cool! Back to the top!

Though her sales figure may not seems so good, but i think at least the sales are steady... At least she's in the top 5 for like this 3rd week...

For the past trends, it is like after the first week, it will dropped down very fast... Now, it looks quite steady... Even Mika Nakashima album ranking is quite steady also, only when there is new albums coming out, it seems that it will just temporary drop down...

Hopefully ayumi can stayed in the top 10 for 32 weeks!! (am half joking...)

[KarenPang]

3rd Week
2nd Day
Position: #19

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2013-02-19/more/3/

A lot of new releases & looks like it's neck to neck between V6 & MISIA for #1 & #2 :O