[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Colours~

[AyuWorld]

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Woaa Tokyo Sport and Yahoo Japan should apologized >.< and wonder if Ayu knows about this, sympathy to Tomomi though

ps: I guess Ayu is back in LA? doesnt care bout her sales xD

[brener]

1st Week

Position: #5
Sales: 39,295
Total Sales: 39,295

Originally Posted by LONJJONG

https://twitter.com/tomo_coco73/stat...92584357793792

@tomo_coco73
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It seems that Tokyo Sports & Yahoo Japan misreported Tomomi had declared a 'war' against Ayu and she was frustrated because her album couldn't outsell Ayu. Tomomi explained through her latest tweet saying that she never said such thing and felt sad.

Article : http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/entame...inment/287304/

Aww poor Tomochin T_T

LOL at the "declared a 'war'"

[rikku1994]

Declared war against Ayu? Lol Ayu so much money she can actually buy her soul loljk... But I kinda feel that Tomochin was shocked with that report, she was like "What!?!?"

And those sales! Better than I expected!

[relmy]

Is she the one who has said what a big fan she is of Ayu before?

[marty]

Well, 39k is not good, but I guess considering the general picture, it's not disastrous.
Koda Kumi last album debuted with 46k, and I was crestfallen, so I think it'd be hypocrite of me to act like I think those sales are alright. They're not too bad tough.
We'll see how the next weeks do.
But I'm happy the album seems to go nicely digitally. I'm curious to know how much it's selling in internet.

[brener]

^

Bon Voyage sales had its international copies counted on Oricon, Colours didn't because of the new policy. So maybe Koda wouldn't be able to sell those 46k copies. Ayu must have sold around 5-10k copies around Asia, Americas and Europe.

And yeah, Colours is doing great on digital charts, although I wonder if it wasn't released 2 weeks in advance physical sales could've shown a better performance on Oricon.

[marty]

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Oops, I forgot that! Now it makes more sense, it means Ayu is doing normally! (I tend to compare her a lot with Kumi, 'cause I think they're in a similar situation)

[Andrenekoi]

For a 35 years old divorced grandma married twice to gaijins active in the industry for over 16 years and 12 years past her peak, she is doing pretty well... ^^

[brener]

Originally Posted by marty

^
Oops, I forgot that! Now it makes more sense, it means Ayu is doing normally! (I tend to compare her a lot with Kumi, 'cause I think they're in a similar situation)

Considering that Koda Kumi has a consistent fandom in countries like Singapore, Taiwan and Hong Kong (Korea?), I think those 6k copies were a reflection of that.

Both Kumi and ayu (which I think has more fans outside Asia) are on similar levels of sales.

[KuuXAyu-fan]

That's not true. Oricon stopped counting overseas shipments a while ago. We just found out about it now so all of BV sales were from Japan only.

[marty]

Originally Posted by brener

Both Kumi and ayu (which I think has more fans outside Asia) are on similar levels of sales.

Yep, that's why I make a lot of comparisons between the two of them! ^^

[brener]

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan

That's not true. Oricon stopped counting overseas shipments a while ago. We just found out about it now so all of BV sales were from Japan only.

Was this while ago even before Bon Voyage release? and what is your source?

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by brener

Was this while ago even before Bon Voyage and what is your source?

Last year there was an uproar of Arashi being number 1 yearly while Exile and AKB sold more so that is said to have been a factor in Oricon discounting overseas sales since last year. CDJapan only recently found out that they were no longer using their overseas shipments after they asked about it.

Here is an email from CDJapan before they made it official that overseas sales no longer count- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp5qLu-IMAA84bJ.jpg

Also even if overseas sales were counted Kuu doesn't have a fanbase that large as she hadn't even debuted when J-Pop was at its peak in the 90s in other countries of Asia ala Amuro and Ayu. Also I'm pretty sure most of the Taiwan/Asian fans buy the Taiwan press/local press version of an album (instead of the Japanese version due to cost) which doesn't count on Oricon anyway.

Either way 6k isn't a huge difference but I just wanted to clarify this.

[brener]

Oh I see, so you might be right, those 46k for Kuu were all sold in Japan. My bad, I'm sorry. ^^

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Originally Posted by brener

Oh I see, so you might be right, those 46k for Kuu were all sold in Japan. My bad, I'm sorry. ^^

No no it's okay. This whole thing has been a bit confusing.
I hope the album can remain remain somewhat stable as there are no more tour dates left.

[brener]

Me too, I hope it will be able to chart over 11 weeks just like CDL is doing on DVD charts. I rather have longevity on charts than high peak numbers, although this is kinda rare for Japanese artists, we see long chart runnings for a lot of foreign artists but it's unusual for Japanese ones =\ well, good luck to Colours =)

[visionfactory]

Originally Posted by brener

Considering that Koda Kumi has a consistent fandom in countries like Singapore, Taiwan and Hong Kong (Korea?), I think those 6k copies were a reflection of that.

Both Kumi and ayu (which I think has more fans outside Asia) are on similar levels of sales.

Top Jpop female artist in Korea:
#1 Namie
#2 Ayu

In fact Koda has never made it to the Top 20 chart in Korea

Top Jpop female artist in Taiwan:
#1 Namie
#2 Ayu

In Taiwan Koda was popular just during first BEST-Black Cherry era

[brener]

^thanks

[Bigtop]

Originally Posted by brener

1st Week

Position: #5
Sales: 39,295
Total Sales: 39,295

Not surprised. Ends up barely getting the top five, with four male artists ahead of Ayu; Kis-My-Ft2, as we know, took #1 because, well you guessed it, "Johnny's (almost) always get #1." It seems I do agree about her longevity in the J-pop market, the lack of interest today, and the "diminishing results" after peak... Times have surely changed...

But two guys are actually older than Ayu! Why is that, really? And this:

Originally Posted by LONJJONG

https://twitter.com/tomo_coco73/stat...92584357793792

@tomo_coco73
Twitterが荒れてると思ったら… 残念です。。 思ってもない。言ってもないのに こんな記事が出て本当に悲しいです…。。(>_<) 浜崎あゆみさんのファンの皆さんご迷惑おかけしました。でも私の言葉ではありません(*_*)

It seems that Tokyo Sports & Yahoo Japan misreported Tomomi had declared a 'war' against Ayu and she was frustrated because her album couldn't outsell Ayu. Tomomi explained through her latest tweet saying that she never said such thing and felt sad.

Article : http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/entame...inment/287304/

Aww poor Tomochin T_T

Originally Posted by brener

LOL at the "declared a 'war'"

What a FAILURE. So apparently a couple of tabloid newspapers "speculated" that Tomochin declared a war against Ayu, but denied those rumors? Well, I kind of agree about Tomochin being said - she never said such thing? She said that it was a coincidence that Tomochin released an album on the same day as Ayu? Hmm...

[My Rainbow]

Originally Posted by Bigtop

But two guys are actually older than Ayu! Why is that, really?

Cause she's a woman.