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[Xianghua]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

This doesn't really make sense for ayu atm (except from when there is just a single date) as she isn't that popular and her tickets aren't selling out nor are they in huge demand. So I believe that with the regular tours they'd end up earning less money eventually if they'd go with the dynamic pricing...unless they lock the minimum price.

All the more reason to use this show as their test subject.

[Gustavopc]

As much as I don't intend to attend this CDL, I'm planning to see some avex artists in Japan next year, especially Kuu, so I'm keeping a close eye to this process. A pity they announced this system so close to the CDL's actual date, not a nice surprise for those who want to attend the concert. Let's wait and see how this rolls out.

[jiarongisme]

So the solution against scalpers is to BE the scalpers... Got it.

[Federica-chan]

30,000 omg...

[Chris85]

Ayu never disappoints with drama. I can only applaud AVEX. Hardcore fans will buy those expensive tickets right away, maybe the prices will even go up at first, but then they will probably start getting a little bit lower.
Who wanted Premium CDL? You got it.

njanjayrp, are you skipping the show after all?

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Chris85

Ayu never disappoints with drama. I can only applaud AVEX. Hardcore fans will buy those expensive tickets right away, maybe the prices will even go up at first, but then they will probably start getting a little bit lower.
Who wanted Premium CDL? You got it.

njanjayrp, are you skipping the show after all?

Seems so, making a decision tonight, seems we'll just go to South America for the holidays as this is simply too late and too risky, not to mention the tickets are too expensive~ even the initial pricing and I am pretty sure the red ones will probably be double the price once the whole thing kicks off. So worst case scenario we pay nearly 700 EUR for two tickets and I won't risk to get them on a later date.

Are you going?

[Chris85]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Seems so, making a decision tonight, seems we'll just go to South America for the holidays as this is simply too late and too risky, not to mention the tickets are too expensive~ even the initial pricing and I am pretty sure the red ones will probably be double the price once the whole thing kicks off. So worst case scenario we pay nearly 700 EUR for two tickets and I won't risk to get them on a later date.
Are you going?

I see. Well, you'll get to see her next year as far as I undestand. You're probably right about the pricing, I was waaay off when I thought that arena seats could start from 11 000 yen :-)
I'm not going, I hope for a live broadcast.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Seems so, making a decision tonight, seems we'll just go to South America for the holidays as this is simply too late and too risky, not to mention the tickets are too expensive~ even the initial pricing and I am pretty sure the red ones will probably be double the price once the whole thing kicks off. So worst case scenario we pay nearly 700 EUR for two tickets and I won't risk to get them on a later date.

Are you going?

Where in SA?

[njanjayrp]

^ depending on what kind of show she is doing, sure it might cost more, but I would imagine the previous tour was pretty lucrative considering the number of dates and that it was pretty low on production values. TBH I think they are just trying to squeeze out as much cash as possible.

On the a-nation point, the majority of people who go there to see ayu specifically are still the fans. Sure she'd get some exposure to the general public, but it's mostly people who are into avex's artist catalog and who are most likely well aware of what she is doing, so the exposure to the new fans/public is most likely minimal. She's lost a lot more when she reduced the number of her TV appearances to a couple a year.

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Where in SA?

As of now the plan is we spend a couple of days in Brazil (Rio de Janeiro most likely) then fly to Argentina where we'd spend some time in Buenos Aires and South Patagonia and perhaps a day or two in Uruguay (Montevideo). However we are still planning! I would of course let you know if we happen to be in the same city

[chocopockymaster]

Are they off their fucking rockers with those ticket prices???? omg

[surrealA]

Thats the average price resellers sold for past CDL

[EndOfTheWorld]

Are these the highest prices she has ever charged for her tours?
To me, both the east and west way of concert ticket sales are a bit frustrating.

[Chibi-Chan]

The ticket prices are a fucking joke. Even the least good seats are more expensive than a ticket via the lottery system ever was. Wtf.

[Toniayu123]

Those prices are insane.
What if this is part of a strategy in which they’re trying to make her shows seem more exclusive? I mean, the harder it is to get, the more people desire to get it. So it could make people want to attend to the next tour next year and so on. Just trying to justify the movement lol

[AyuCanada]

Originally Posted by Toniayu123

Those prices are insane.
What if this is part of a strategy in which they’re trying to make her shows seem more exclusive? I mean, the harder it is to get, the more people desire to get it. So it could make people want to attend to the next tour next year and so on. Just trying to justify the movement lol

Are they? they very normal prices for western concerts. Front row tickets often go close to a thousand dollars in an arena. We were just lucky and priviledged before to apply for international tickets, pay the same price as locals and get seats in the front. My Ayu tickets in Fukuoka were the cheapest arena tickets I ever paid for an artist and the closest I have ever been to a stage.

I know some people may say it is fair to put internationals in front because they have to pay a trip to get there, but other countries usually don't do that.

[FoxyPinkGirl]

Originally Posted by AyuCanada

Are they? they very normal prices for western concerts. Front row tickets often go close to a thousand dollars in an arena.

Actually there’s goodies included in those ticket prices here in the US, for close floor seats that is. It’s never a thousand for just a seat/ticket (unless it’s a scalper or someone reselling them on SeatGeek or StubHub) there’s ALWAYS something that comes with it. Like VIP packages. Typically the lowest (price) tear with a ticket “package” is a tote bag or/and a laminated ticket with a hologram.

But anyways. I’m a bit shocked Ayu is charging that much. Especially for her popularity level currently. Again, I still feel that her not doing a nation this past summer really hurt her popularity. Like a big hit. Yes she was touring, but she would’ve been able to maneuver something for a nation, even if not the headliner on the final day. It would make better sense of charging those high prices if she were more on top popularity wise. I’m kinda worried for her in that her popularity is waning and she hasn’t been releasing new music for a while...or not that consistently. Yet she tours like crazy, but there’s nothing new to it. Mainly new dance routines and she’s gotten a little more racy. But she keeps putting on shows and numbers that are expected and lackluster. I’m worried that she’s going to lose more fans and then some if she keeps this constancy going with her shows. I’m not saying that I’m losing interest. But I’m moreso concerned for where she’s heading.

Sorry for getting off-topic lol

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by AyuCanada

Are they? they very normal prices for western concerts. Front row tickets often go close to a thousand dollars in an arena. We were just lucky and priviledged before to apply for international tickets, pay the same price as locals and get seats in the front. My Ayu tickets in Fukuoka were the cheapest arena tickets I ever paid for an artist and the closest I have ever been to a stage.

I know some people may say it is fair to put internationals in front because they have to pay a trip to get there, but other countries usually don't do that.

Hm, but those prices are for everyone, not international fans. And I don't know which concerts you're going to, but those also aren't usual prices for concerts in the west for regular tickets.

Some hardcore fans are probably going to pay those start prices, but the rest will be waiting until the dynamic price system kicks in and they get cheaper.
We're not in the '80's anymore when Japan's economy was great and regular people could have afforded such prices.
Taking a look at Twitter and Japanese fans are complaining about those prices and the system altogether, especially those not living round Tokyo, who have to pay transport and hotel as well. Also saw people comparing this to dinner shows, the only sort of concerts higher prices are normal in Japan.

[AyuCanada]

Originally Posted by Corvina

And I don't know which concerts you're going to, but those also aren't usual prices for concerts in the west for regular tickets.

Originally Posted by FoxyPinkGirl

Actually there’s goodies included in those ticket prices here in the US, for close floor seats that is. It’s never a thousand for just a seat/ticket

I just bought tickets for Celine Dion in Vancouver last week, the cheapest tickets were 225 CAD$ on ticket master and I am quite in the corner back. The seats in the front row were 1300$ (and there are no goods with it apart a commemorative ticket). I also paid similar price for Britney Spears and Maria Carey in Las Vegas. Last summer I went to France to see Mylene Farmer and tickets were about 300 CAD$ (EDIT: they were exactly 270$CAD) for quite far seats. They are all artists who had their prime over 10 years ago like Ayu.

So 100$-300$ for concert tickets seems pretty normal.

[Chris85]

Originally Posted by AyuCanada

Last summer I went to France to see Mylene Farmer and tickets were about 300 CAD$ for quite far seats.

Do you mean Carré Platine that was 205€? Because those were the best and most expensive seats.

[Norrel]

This honestly reminds me of how Madonna did her latest tour, and honestly... HATE.

They sure picked a good show to test this system out on, because more than likely people will snap up these tickets fast given it's CDL, but jfc those prices are just ridiculous.