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Old 27th December 2012, 06:29 PM
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rarelly any artist listens to fans, well maybe artists do but i mean c'mon those people that work with artists are supposed to be pro experts in what they are hired to do, they don't need a bunch of opinionated fanatics telling what to do and what not... or at least i bet that's what THEY think, because they're old pros that work in the industry for 30-50 years and they know the ****, tho never managed to update their brain with time xD

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Old 28th December 2012, 03:27 AM
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rarelly any artist listens to fans, well maybe artists do but i mean c'mon those people that work with artists are supposed to be pro experts in what they are hired to do, they don't need a bunch of opinionated fanatics telling what to do and what not... or at least i bet that's what THEY think, because they're old pros that work in the industry for 30-50 years and they know the ****, tho never managed to update their brain with time xD
I think that the problem people are experiencing is not the content itself, but the way it was released. When it comes to Ayu's creative work, I have nothing to say, because even if I don't like it, she put her effort into the song and it likely has some meaning to her.

But, the way avex decided to handle this release, yes, they should be listening to fans. Because they are the ones who are going to buy it. If calling those minis "singles" is what makes fans happy, then a good business should adapt to what customers want. That's the way a business works. They have to do everything within their power (and the law) to make a customer happy. I'm sure its not set in stone that LOVE and again had to be minis.
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Old 28th December 2012, 12:22 PM
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I think that the problem people are experiencing is not the content itself, but the way it was released. When it comes to Ayu's creative work, I have nothing to say, because even if I don't like it, she put her effort into the song and it likely has some meaning to her.

But, the way avex decided to handle this release, yes, they should be listening to fans. Because they are the ones who are going to buy it. If calling those minis "singles" is what makes fans happy, then a good business should adapt to what customers want. That's the way a business works. They have to do everything within their power (and the law) to make a customer happy. I'm sure its not set in stone that LOVE and again had to be minis.
yeah i know that, the problem here is the way they handled the information. Not that people don't like the stuff she'ss been releasing till now.
And it's true at this point since people who listen to her music are the ones that buy her stuff, they should be the main voice to listen to at these kind of times, because Avex surelly ****ed that up really nicelly. I don't think they would be getting away with that in a western world. If she was someone like Madonna or something i have a feeling this would have blossomed into a huge scandal and media would eat her up as well as her label, probably mostly her label.
But that's what I am trying to say that they think they know better, because they supposedly know what will make people buy stuff....
I just don't understand how Avex doesn't care about having a nice clean name, not just for their own sake but for the artists they are managing too.

what kinda makes me angry tho is that fans are sending her nasty tweets involving Maro. I mean that dude or Ayu's relationship with him has nothing to do with this mess now, whatsoever. People are so quick to tweet her horrible things it's increadible!

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Old 29th December 2012, 06:36 AM
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what kinda makes me angry tho is that fans are sending her nasty tweets involving Maro. I mean that dude or Ayu's relationship with him has nothing to do with this mess now, whatsoever. People are so quick to tweet her horrible things it's increadible!
The problem is that , the way ayu presented herself at the beginning of her career and the lyrics she wrote constanly ex "I'm strong when I have so thing to protect and blah blah blah" convinced us all in to believeing that ayu was a different person. But, now her true personally is coming out and everyone feels lied to and Angry. The insults were wrong but, I don't blame them for being mad!!
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Old 27th December 2012, 06:26 PM
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^ I get that regarding her creative work. But regarding advertisement and promotion / product information...?
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Old 27th December 2012, 07:52 PM
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i for one dont condone the bad tweets, but I can understand the outrage...
people just need to be mature about it.
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Old 27th December 2012, 07:53 PM
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But it's just sad to me that the way people are expressing their dislike is so... rude and inappropriate. This is the thing that really bugs me the most whenever something happens that fans aren't pleased about. Voice your opinion guys, but do it in a respectful manner.
So true ... If in your work you comit a big mistake I don't think you would be happy to be insulyed by your customers or Associates ! People believe because it's twitter that they are allowed to say and make anything... It's too easy & disrespectful O_o When I've seen the guy says "I hope you to die" I was shocked !

You can be angry but not disrespectful IMO
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Old 27th December 2012, 09:33 PM
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So true ... If in your work you comit a big mistake I don't think you would be happy to be insulyed by your customers or Associates ! People believe because it's twitter that they are allowed to say and make anything... It's too easy & disrespectful O_o When I've seen the guy says "I hope you to die" I was shocked !

You can be angry but not disrespectful IMO
Unfortunately this is show biz and that's why she's getting paid. " if ayu can't take the heat, than she should get out of the kitchen" I know my comment sounds rude but ayu makes music for the listeners and insults, mistreatment, criticism, sarcasm and stockers comes a long with the package.
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Old 27th December 2012, 09:37 PM
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Unfortunately this is show biz and that's why she's getting paid. " if ayu can't take the heat, than she should get out of the kitchen" I know my comment sounds rude but ayu makes music for the listeners and insults, mistreatment, criticism, sarcasm and stockers comes a long with the package.
This is true sad but true.
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Old 27th December 2012, 08:58 PM
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She has delivered new material for the past 2 months and it's not easy to pull off completely new album in such a short time :/ And there ARE new songs + really great ones we were given on past releases. I am happy for the new album.
About twitter...it's christmas how can people be so rude and wish her badly (not to mention death...). I've tweeted her best wishes for new year.
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Old 27th December 2012, 10:10 PM
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I'm aware of that but it's sad :/

Btw when I said "People believe because it's twitter that they are allowed to say and make anything... It's too easy & disrespectful O_o" It's in general not particularly Ayu ^^
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Old 28th December 2012, 03:31 AM
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Korean drama still blows any of this baby stuff out of the water.

Remember BoA's US album picture apocalypse? /shudder



I thought reactions from the Japanese were sorta...lukewarm, but they were still going to buy the release
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Korean drama still blows any of this baby stuff out of the water.

Remember BoA's US album picture apocalypse? /shudder



I thought reactions from the Japanese were sorta...lukewarm, but they were still going to buy the release
I totally misread the first sentence and totally thought you meant that Ayu was preggers. Imagine the drama...
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That's just horrible for people to say such awful hurtful things in those tweets. No matter how angry you are about something, stay classy and don't wish death on people. I've heard people say that so much (the words "kill yourself"), honestly the most hurtful and disrespectful thing you could say to someone. Sure Ayu made a little oops with marketing LOVE and again as mini albums in connection with Love again, but she doesn't deserve that hurtfulness from people.
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Old 29th December 2012, 01:39 PM
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^ Some of her coming from her friends' experiences. Poor ayu. But relax guys~
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what do new tweets say?
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Old 30th December 2012, 07:47 AM
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omg I just saw black ocean and jumped to conclusions.

I was like "the **** they're gonna black ocean Ayu?!"

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Old 30th December 2012, 10:50 AM
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omg I just saw black ocean and jumped to conclusions.

I was like "the **** they're gonna black ocean Ayu?!"

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whenever i watched kouhaku best artist msta special,etc
ayu almsot got black ocean
i notice it when i watched any singer the light sticks were everywhere but when it came to ayu there were rarely lights sticks going on
the audience just standing frozen watching
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whenever i watched kouhaku best artist msta special,etc
ayu almsot got black ocean
i notice it when i watched any singer the light sticks were everywhere but when it came to ayu there were rarely lights sticks going on
the audience just standing frozen watching
Do you happen to have any screenshots? I never heard about it...
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