new album "A ONE" 2015.04.08 in stores II - Page 17 - Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai
· Ayu's Official Site · Ayu's twitter · Ayu's YouTube · masa's translations · Misa-chan's translations ·


Go Back   Ayumi Hamasaki Sekai > Ayumi Hamasaki Forums > Ayu Music News

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 2nd March 2015, 09:32 AM
BlackSilence's Avatar
BlackSilence BlackSilence is offline
Because of You Initiate
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Lithuania
Posts: 5,595
why is everyone so obsessed with cohesivness, doesn't it feel like you're listening to ONE HUGE track? Because that's how Love songs and LOVE again sonded like to me (don't even get me started on Colours lol). Probably the reason why i enjoyed them for like a week and then got borred really quickly, cuz they just don't excite you in any way. I dunno i mean i look at albums as a sort of a perspective of feelings and emotions of an artist over a certain period of time, unless they do it for a specific project. To me it also seems a little too polished when everything sounds very smooth, like i start questioning the artists creativity then. Unless, of course they were in the same mood for a few months, then it's a whole other story lol
To me a good album is something where more than 8 tracks could stand on their own as a story after story and not something that that one song u take out on it's own, looses the character and any sense of what's going on there because they need the rest to continue the telling. i take it more like a book of a collection of different stories that are bound just by a period of time rather than a common theme. i'm not into stuff that takes 15 chapters to tell ONE story. lol And these so far to me sound like they coukd stand each as their own without the rest.
  #2  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:45 PM
Coelacanth Coelacanth is offline
GAME Initiate
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: nyc
Posts: 5,840
Quote:
Originally Posted by artcika View Post
why is everyone so obsessed with cohesivness, doesn't it feel like you're listening to ONE HUGE track?
lol i know right. ayu has made it abundantly clear with albums like MY STORY, (miss)understood, Rock'n'Roll Circus, and Colours that she has no intention to be defined strictly by one type of 'sound'. imo Ayu is up there with some of pop music's greats in terms of being a musical chameleon.

Loosely tying things together allows listeners to more easily produce their own impressions and interpretations of an artist's work. tbh I have no need for "concept albums" like the ones pretentious indie acts shove in your face (literally, shove in your face, by explaining to death in interviews pretty much every aspect of the album from its conception, meaning, etc. which not only takes the fun out of being able to attach your own personal experiences to the work, but also shows how wildly insecure the musician is. I've always liked how Ayu is purposely vague and feels no need to over-explain the minutiae of her musical decisions)

from WARNING:

Yes, you don't know
I don't show you
You don't know the real me
I don't feel like sharing
I don't plan on exposing myself
I'm mine only
  #3  
Old 2nd March 2015, 09:50 AM
js_surrealism js_surrealism is offline
TO BE Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Singapore
Posts: 570
^ The whole LS album sounded cheap. All of TK's compositions (apart from the title track) sounded like cheap globe rejects.

And uh, hate to break it to you bud, but every single frigging one of Ayu's songs is about Love so that's not really saying anything.

Aural cohesiveness is kind of irrelevant when it comes to Ayu. Regardless of what record she puts out, there will be an upbeat track, a ballad, a rockish track, a more cutesy one. It's a formula that's worked for her since My Story (seriously).

No doubt some records have more of a 'concept' than others (Party Queen, Colours, I'd say RAINBOW as well) but for the most part, I find it more productive to evaluate her albums in terms of "did I enjoy listening to the whole thing or not"
  #4  
Old 2nd March 2015, 12:10 PM
orbitalaspect's Avatar
orbitalaspect orbitalaspect is offline
appears Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lakewood, WA (AKA The Real Hell on Earth)
Posts: 1,076
Quote:
Originally Posted by js_surrealism View Post
^ The whole LS album sounded cheap. All of TK's compositions (apart from the title track) sounded like cheap globe rejects.

And uh, hate to break it to you bud, but every single frigging one of Ayu's songs is about Love so that's not really saying anything.

Aural cohesiveness is kind of irrelevant when it comes to Ayu. Regardless of what record she puts out, there will be an upbeat track, a ballad, a rockish track, a more cutesy one. It's a formula that's worked for her since My Story (seriously).

No doubt some records have more of a 'concept' than others (Party Queen, Colours, I'd say RAINBOW as well) but for the most part, I find it more productive to evaluate her albums in terms of "did I enjoy listening to the whole thing or not"
Her albums were not loaded down with love shit before Ls. RnRC, for example, had a shit ton of self-reflective (Microphone, count down, Last Links, RED LINE, Don't look back) party, fashion-forward songs (Lady Dynamite, Sexy little things, Sunrise). 8 of the 15 tracks had nothing to do with intimate relationships. Everything from RnRC back to A Song for XX is a variety of stuff, from isolation to anxiety to freedom to music to personal stuff. Ls, however, was her first album all about relationships with another person or her dog or her fans.

Even Colours is drenched with love crap. From Ftl to Wifl to Pray, Angel, Mgr, N&4E. Over half of that record is about love.

I think the album formula has been pretty solid with her since Duty. Duty had upbeats like (vogue and AUDIENCE), ballads (SEASONS and SCAR), rock (End of the World), and a cutesy track (girlish).

And I'd love to agree with you on the "did I enjoy listening to it or not" if it wasn't honestly 100% subjective and affected by everything from mood to life circumstances to whether you're in need of food, medication, or something else. There are some good albums out there I don't enjoy listening to. There are also some bad albums I actually enjoy.

I do not like Namie Amuro's FEEL or Uncontrolled, but both were very well received by fans. I also absolutely love Secret though I don't know another Ayu fan who thinks it was a good record. So, I tend to lean on more concrete, popular opinion/review/sales-based information rather than say "Oh, I didn't enjoy this album so it's bad." But I will let numbers speak for themselves. Numbers usually speak for a lot. And a consistent 40% drop in sales from album to album, from PQ to La to Colours, tells me fans didn't want another record like Ls, and definitely didn't want THREE more consecutively.

It's also interesting to look at her drops over the years.

04-06 From MS to (m): ~30% drop.
06 to S: ~34% drop.
08 to G: ~15% drop.
09 to NL: ~33% drop.
10 to RnRC: ~16% drop.
10 to Ls: ~15% drop.
12 to PQ: ~47% drop.
13 to La: ~40% drop.
14 to C: ~40% drop.

Like, we are all well aware of how she kind of peaked at A BEST and very slowly descended from there, but she had a sudden huge drop with singles starting at forgiveness in 03 and with albums at Memorial Address / MY STORY in 03-04.

It's even more crazy to think she tallied 25 consecutive #1 singles after her peak, in the middle of these huge drops in sales, in the middle of the announcement about her hearing, in the middle of her pulling back on being a "product" for avex.

Anyway, I don't think the numbers for A ONE will be amazing, but I hope for a reasonable drop this time at least. Like, I'm shooting for a 20-30% drop at max, that 35,000-40,000 range in sales. If she somehow manages to sell closer to Colours, I'll be shocked. I think FW will be somewhere around 25-30k. But still. I seriously want to see Koda's numbers. But I am going to have my own little mini heart attack if Koda's first week is shockingly abysmal... like, imagine how crazy it would feel to see Koda do less than 20k in the first week?? It would just feel weird.

Yeah. Numbers. NUMBAHS. I love 'em. But I still support Ayu and Koda anywho. I just want A ONE to feel more complete than any of these records over the last few years. I get PQ having its place, and La was good because I beat it into my own head that it could be a good record (though two years later it really, honestly, unfortunately just is not). And I know everyone hated XOXO, and I danced my butt off to it because it was really different from anything Ayu has done, but Colours was really just a sloppy album... I mean, very sloppy. Like they did all the decision-making after Ayu had her wisdom teeth pulled and before the drugs wore off. But I'd like see A ONE be a decent record for Ayu's sake... because one day she's going to have to look back at her career from 2010-2015, and you know she's going to notice how bad the fonts on her covers are, and she's going to wonder where the fuck her arm disappeared to on the cover of PQ, or why she was rubbing a shoe on her face in another cover of PQ, or how many xanax bars she was on to be too damn lazy to come up with a name other than LOVE again for an album that included all the tracks from two mini-albums titled LOVE and again, one of which wasn't even technically a mini-album. That's going to hurt. So I hope A ONE is where Ayu said, "You know, I'm drawing the line at everything before here." And then we can say that CDL 14-15 was her last trashy thing from this era.
  #5  
Old 2nd March 2015, 09:58 AM
ayumisrael's Avatar
ayumisrael ayumisrael is offline
Lelio Protector

 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Israel
Posts: 16,036
^It's a formula that worked for her since A Song for xx actually.
There always were songs who could be considered as cute, rock, ballad and up beat at least in most albums.

I think that even evolution could be considered cute (because of the voice/the way ayu acts in the PV) or just look at the lives,, SIGNAL, Fly high and AUDIENCE too (and I suppose WE WISH?). Not as bluntly as ANGEL'S SONG, and HONEY but still..

Last edited by ayumisrael; 2nd March 2015 at 10:02 AM.
  #6  
Old 2nd March 2015, 10:10 AM
js_surrealism js_surrealism is offline
TO BE Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Singapore
Posts: 570
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayumisrael View Post
^It's a formula that worked for her since A Song for xx actually.
There always were songs who could be considered as cute, rock, ballad and up beat at least in most albums.

I think that even evolution could be considered cute (because of the voice/the way ayu acts in the PV) or just look at the lives,, SIGNAL, Fly high and AUDIENCE too (and I suppose WE WISH?). Not as bluntly as ANGEL'S SONG, and HONEY but still..
I tend to not count A song for xx because I think they were trying many many different things, as one is prone to do, for a debut album -- but you are right, it does fit the description as well.

Don't think the same really holds true for Loveppears - RAINBOW though. Fly High and Audience weren't really cutesy until she started making them 'cute' when her concerts become That Particular Formula (rock/bondage, cute/sexy, pretty/ballads, u know what I'm referring to)

I'm not saying these things as criticisms of course, I still very much enjoy all her concerts and albums even though I know exactly what to expect.

ANYWAY, let's talk about the new songs. WARNING was very very good. As good as Until that day and 1Love from Secret (which, to me, are some of her best 'rock' songs).
  #7  
Old 2nd March 2015, 10:04 AM
krtman2002's Avatar
krtman2002 krtman2002 is offline
WHATEVER Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Spain
Posts: 451
Ok, I couldn't resist with the previews. For me, warning and Show must go on are the best, but no future is weird but primising?

I think I've got bittersweet feelings about this album, and I usually like everything ayu releases, but this one... ufff... I don't know what to think. It can be A ONE dissaster or A ONE EPICNESS. Time will say.
__________________
  #8  
Old 2nd March 2015, 10:48 AM
Deep snow Deep snow is offline
July 1st Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,894
I'm surprised that I've managed to restrain myself from listening to the previews.

You guys have very different reactions to the songs I'm now completely unable to guess what they actually sound like
  #9  
Old 2nd March 2015, 10:52 AM
[H] [H] is offline
from your letter Initiate
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Jakarta
Posts: 423
@hayasaki thanks for sharing the previews!!

I just love how No Future made me want to jump out of my chair and run. i need it right now!! My personal highlight of the album.

Story sounds nostalgic and heartwarming. Hopefully the song builds up and we have more high notes on the bridge / last chorus. I can imagine myself sitting down and thinking about warm memories while listening to this song. My 2nd highlight

The Show Must Go On is a more exciting version of snowy kiss, but i don't like the repetitive "the show must go on..yeaayeayyeay". I like the verse thou

WARNING -> i picture this an exciting opener. I don't know whether the lalala will get annoying along the way

Don't really care for the GIFT -> I just can't understand why would she choose this song, but maybe the lyrics will resonate better. It's a big meh right now.

Out of control seems to be a filler song for me -> it sounds like something in Party Queen and similar to Life.

Hearing the previews got my hopes up quite high for A ONE. Ayu has done everything (even slight rapping) in her discography, so some songs do sound similar, and these songs have a bit of this and that. But it does have the Ayu sound and feeling.
  #10  
Old 2nd March 2015, 12:23 PM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
Secret is up there as one of my favorites ever from her...

To think it was a mini album at one point... so strange.

As far as recent numbers go, a large part of it is that there simply is no promotion. People don't know something new is coming out and there are nearly no tie-ins of note to let people know songs are out there. It also doesn't help that the market in general is becoming idolcentral. There is no denying Ayu is selling less than ever before, but so is just about everyone else.

Last edited by truehappiness; 2nd March 2015 at 12:25 PM.
  #11  
Old 2nd March 2015, 12:49 PM
douggn's Avatar
douggn douggn is offline
ayu trance Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ☜☆☞ Australia☜☆☞
Posts: 2,064
Quote:
Originally Posted by truehappiness View Post
Secret is up there as one of my favorites ever from her...

To think it was a mini album at one point... so strange.

As far as recent numbers go, a large part of it is that there simply is no promotion. People don't know something new is coming out and there are nearly no tie-ins of note to let people know songs are out there. It also doesn't help that the market in general is becoming idolcentral. There is no denying Ayu is selling less than ever before, but so is just about everyone else.
Sad but true. The music giants were too slow to get with the times with the age of the internet. Its pretty much the music industry's fault to were it is today. But going on 17 years non-stop, ayus doing very well. Not many solo/bands can last the test of time
__________________

  #12  
Old 2nd March 2015, 12:41 PM
douggn's Avatar
douggn douggn is offline
ayu trance Initiate
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: ☜☆☞ Australia☜☆☞
Posts: 2,064
I'm liking what I'm hearing from the HQ previews, the sound of the album sort of reminds me sort of a mix from the past few albums, as in some of the songs could of fitted in with those past albums.

WARNING chorus reminds of the type of song that could be used for a Panasonic CM.
The GIFT I this this will do well live at her tours (I actually don't mind the sound of The GIFT, I like it better than the sound of Out of control).
NO FUTURE 'Like a doll' comes to mind but I think that's just the instruments used in the song but its much better than Like a doll
Out of control Not much opinion on this song yet
The Show Must Go On I could see this used as an opening to an Anime (I do get the snowy kiss feel too from it, but I love the sound of snowy kiss)
Story I could see this as being the ending song to an Anime

My two most favourite songs so far are WARNING and Out of control, from the sound of the songs from the HQ preview.
__________________


Last edited by douggn; 2nd March 2015 at 12:52 PM.
  #13  
Old 2nd March 2015, 12:46 PM
pepper's Avatar
pepper pepper is offline
Dolls Initiate
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Poland
Posts: 3,445
I want those 2 tracks to be full songs t_t
  #14  
Old 2nd March 2015, 01:57 PM
JinHamasaki's Avatar
JinHamasaki JinHamasaki is offline
Far away Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,341
I am trying to resist listening to the previews, but I am happy that it seems that Ayu has returned to the classic "ayu" sound and emotion.
  #15  
Old 2nd March 2015, 02:38 PM
thinkingoutloud89's Avatar
thinkingoutloud89 thinkingoutloud89 is offline
my name's WOMEN Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Germany/Hameln
Posts: 6,398
all these comparisons make me want to bulge similiar songs in playlists together
  #16  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:20 PM
DogboyShugo's Avatar
DogboyShugo DogboyShugo is offline
WHATEVER Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada NS
Posts: 497
The Previews sound great!
__________________
~~lost in my own paradox~~
  #17  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:29 PM
Chibi-Chan Chibi-Chan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,151
I'm disappointed. Four ballads, plus one midtempo and Last minute? I love Last minute and I'm sure I will like Warning and No Future. But as a whole this album won't do anything for me.
  #18  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:54 PM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan View Post
I'm disappointed. Four ballads, plus one midtempo and Last minute? I love Last minute and I'm sure I will like Warning and No Future. But as a whole this album won't do anything for me.
Well, this IS kind of what happens when you do a triple ballad single just beforehand. There was no way she was going to not have a few ballads in there that were new.

Last edited by truehappiness; 2nd March 2015 at 03:56 PM.
  #19  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:55 PM
Tom Punks's Avatar
Tom Punks Tom Punks is offline
Heartplace Initiate
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,782
Quote:
Originally Posted by truehappiness View Post
Well, this IS kind of what happens when you do a triple ballad single just beforehand.
Not really... Nobody's holding a gun to her head saying there have to be new ballad tracks on the album lol ESPECIALLY not 3/half of them.
  #20  
Old 2nd March 2015, 03:57 PM
truehappiness's Avatar
truehappiness truehappiness is offline
ANGEL'S SONG H-Initiate
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Anaheim, California
Posts: 35,493
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Punks View Post
Not really... Nobody's holding a gun to her head saying there have to be new ballad tracks on the album lol ESPECIALLY not 3/half of them.
I know, but this is Ayu we're talking about here. She's never really not had new ballads or midtempos on albums. Her fewest is probably NEXT LEVEL or FIVE.
Closed Thread

Tags
a one


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.