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Old 9th February 2012, 08:33 PM
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A lot of french fans find her voice very ugly and that she has never done worse than that i'm very disappointed because i think totally the opposite ... sad lol
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Old 9th February 2012, 08:43 PM
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Well studio wise I absolutely love her vocals tbh imo. I mean like the whole FIVE album; all her vocals were great on it INCLUDING progress imo. When she's performing LIVE she almost always sounds bad imo (I'm talking about CDL 10-11 and CDL 11-12, she sounded great imo @7 days and the recent progress performance on tv imo). imo imo imo imo. I don't want to hear any theory about how her vocals are super awesome right now, and that I might be deaf or stupid or retarded or whatever because I don't think she sounds awesome, hence the imo's. Oh this is off-topic, I realize.... :/
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Old 9th February 2012, 08:57 PM
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okay I just searched HBYA live @Youtube to see it live and I gotta say that live it's even more obvious she can't hit high notes and it was painful to see
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Old 9th February 2012, 09:09 PM
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Have you seen her UNEDITED live performances between 2006 and 2010? They were MUCH worse when it came to hitting notes as high. She wasn't far off for HBYA most of the time, while the notes are amongst the highest in her reach. Her range stops at E5 nowadays(ever after her hearing loss) and HBYA scratches at that.
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Old 9th February 2012, 10:49 PM
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A lot of french fans find her voice very ugly and that she has never done worse than that i'm very disappointed because i think totally the opposite ... sad lol
I find this interesting cause Ive been listenimg to more french stuff, and they seem to favor lower, more soothing, sensual, and sometimes even husky, vocals.
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Old 9th February 2012, 11:12 PM
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in fact they really dislike her vibrato and her current way to sing ...also her actual music style but it's another history lol
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Old 9th February 2012, 11:38 PM
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in fact they really dislike her vibrato and her current way to sing ...also her actual music style but it's another history lol
which is ABSOLUTELY not my case, just sayin haha still haven't listened to hbya though, but i know i'll like it anyway
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Old 9th February 2012, 11:52 PM
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I'm part of the people who hate this kind of voice. It's so husky and manly...
It's not pretty at all to me.
She's never gone so low in a studio version. I hope she was ill when she recorded the song because I really don't like it.
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Old 10th February 2012, 12:49 AM
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I love this song, it's beautiful and calming. I wish they would sell the cover art as a poster- it really is her best in a while.
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Old 10th February 2012, 01:17 AM
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I just have a question. In the Instrumental of the song we can listen to the chours as always, usually it's herself making the other voices, but this time I can't say if it's her or is other woman. Does anyone know? I'm almost sure is a woman so it can't be Timmy.

Btw, I'm in love with this song, is not her best, but I don't need a masterprice to enjoy a beautiful song. The only thing I can't get used to is the final part when she sing "you are, you are uUuUh" thing lol but it doesn't ruin the song.
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Old 10th February 2012, 02:38 AM
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It might be Junko (Ayu's usual chorus singer) or maybe even Yumi (the new backup chorus singer for lives)?
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Old 10th February 2012, 02:52 AM
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you didn't reply to my question, I understand about vocal/singing control, but you said her vocal has increased, in which I understand that her voice has become more powerful. it might not sound as strained as earlier, but how come the voice is stronger when it's not?
in the song the music & sound starting 4:19 seems to cover Ayu voice and Ayu can't sing it over. I do not know and I don't think anyone else knows if it is intentional or is because of her incapability. then I do not understand why even record the song she's incapable of singing?
of course it might not be important but I guess I personally would have liked this song much more if during it's peak after 4:19 she would have made it bloom with the power of her voice. to me this is what made the song dissapointing to a certain extent
I completely agree with you. Someone just needs to listen to the edited Asia Tour 2008, and then listen to the vocals from the UNEDITED Countdown 2011-2012, and you can hear the big difference.

Also, the live version of How Beautiful You Are, I thought she actually was off at the low notes, but she was so great in the last part of the song. So much power and control. And of course, the Countdown version doesn't use the vibrato a lot like the studio version, so I'm sure she recorded on the days she was sick this song in London.

Her vocals sound so much better lately than ever. Have you guys honestly listened to her in the past? It was good in 2003 - 2004, but even Memorial Address and Teddy Bear weren't so perfect at the Arena Tour, and everyone loves those performances. And Concert Tour 2000, don't even get me started LOL.
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in fact they really dislike her vibrato and her current way to sing ...also her actual music style but it's another history lol
From what I can tell the typical French vocal ideals are just very different. Just look at Mylene Farmer for example, she often breathes her notes more than she sings them, it's soft and very controlled, the notes are straight-forward until their end but sang very, VERY gently, but not powerfully.
It's just completely different ideals. None is superior to the other, they are just different approaches and when you are used to one the other may seem weird or even wrong.
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okay I just searched HBYA live @Youtube to see it live and I gotta say that live it's even more obvious she can't hit high notes and it was painful to see
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Im not understadning it.. I think she is sing quite well in the song and hitting all the notes just fine... the music tends to get a little loud and she isn't trying to over power the music, which is a good thing...

If you ask me, Timmy is a little obsessed with chanting... hope he doesn't over use it.
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link please?
it's pretty much the first thing that pops up when you search for the song
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Old 10th February 2012, 09:57 PM
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^ I've just realized that you're talking about HBYA lol I didn't even know that was the song lol
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Old 11th February 2012, 10:17 PM
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in fact they really dislike her vibrato and her current way to sing ...also her actual music style but it's another history lol
then I must be French too, lol

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From what I can tell the typical French vocal ideals are just very different. Just look at Mylene Farmer for example, she often breathes her notes more than she sings them, it's soft and very controlled, the notes are straight-forward until their end but sang very, VERY gently, but not powerfully.
It's just completely different ideals. None is superior to the other, they are just different approaches and when you are used to one the other may seem weird or even wrong.
no way you can compare the greatness of Mylene & of her voice...
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Old 11th February 2012, 10:21 PM
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no way you can compare the greatness of Mylene & of her voice...
I'm not comparing vocals, I'm comparing voice ideals. Please read before replying, it's completely different things...

That said Mylene isn't an outstanding vocalist, she's rather average. She's a great artist, performer, lyricist...but not vocalist. Like Ayumi really. Both have rather average vocals but are AMAZING in some other aspects.
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