ayumi hamasaki 15th Anniversary TOUR ～A BEST LIVE～ VI

[mi|kshake]

I think she looks great at her current weight! I prefer it to the more athletic look.

[BlackSilence]

people like to throw that word around too much, you guys need to check definition of FAT sometime *whistle* she looks fuller but noway fat.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by artcika

people like to throw that word around too much, you guys need to check definition of FAT sometime *whistle* she looks fuller but noway fat.

Yeap, pretty much this. "Bigger", "stronger", "thickier" are different from fat, even more considering the word "fat" has a very negative conotation on our society and just on a feel expecific contexts "she looks fat" doesn't imply "she should look thinner".

Sorry about the rant if it weren't what you guys meant, but it's hard for me to read it on another way when sometimes people actually did complain she was too fat.. And to make sure nobody will missunderstand me: this is not about her, it's about the body type we pressure women to have.

[Earth_maiden]

Being a fat person myself, I think Ayu looks beautiful and healthier than ever in that pic. When a woman weighing less than 50kg is called fat, I have to shake my head.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Yeap, pretty much this. "Bigger", "stronger", "thickier" are different from fat, even more considering the word "fat" has a very negative conotation on our society and just on a feel expecific contexts "she looks fat" doesn't imply "she should look thinner".

Sorry about the rant if it weren't what you guys meant, but it's hard for me to read it on another way when sometimes people actually did complain she was too fat.. And to make sure nobody will missunderstand me: this is not about her, it's about the body type we pressure women to have.

Men have this pressure too. Women are considered acceptable just by eating less and diet alone. Men must be particular about eats AND work extremely hard to achieve the desired body type! It is a brutal lifestyle and I'm not saying I don't enjoy it to an extent, but I eat the exact same thing every day and build my entire life around this routine and I still am not where I would like to be considering all I have done to try and achieve what seems unachievable.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Men have this pressure too. Women are considered acceptable just by eating less and diet alone. Men must be particular about eats AND work extremely hard to achieve the desired body type! It is a brutal lifestyle and I'm not saying I don't enjoy it to an extent, but I eat the exact same thing every day and build my entire life around this routine and I still am not where I would like to be considering all I have done to try and achieve what seems unachievable.

There's no way to compare how much pressure a woman and a man suffer to have a certain body tipe. Just watch any family centered sitcom on television and you will most likely see a lot of mid-aged fat men married to thin not-mid-aged-playing-mid-aged women.

Also, balanced diet + work out tends to be FAR healthier than starving to fit this or that size.

[marty]

I personally think it's a (stupid) problem if you are a celebrity, but in real life nobody really cares. At least in experience, attitude does a lot more than a thin body: I always see shy girls (of every weight and shape) being "alone" a lot more than bold and easy-going personalities (again, of every type) and I think it's just natural. It's since early high school that I don't see people having a real problem with weight and dieting (and, let's be real, us girls discuss it all the time, but we're almost never serious about it, lol!).
On the contrary, if you are famous (and especially if you are a female singer) there's a lot of fuss about your body (and I always think about Piece of Me by Britney, lafmao, but also about Lady Gaga and Christina Aguilera, all those photos in internet, and people talking about it day by day, judging). But that's what you signed for when you entered show business, so you have to deal with bull****, it's part of the package.
And, just to make an example, Zeke: I don't like men too hefty, and almost all of my female friends don't too!

[Zeke.]

Women may play into the pressure more than men, because some men just don't give a ****, but at the end of the day, the male physique is always something that is to be desired and attained, and it's a daunting task trying to acquire such an image. Men just don't talk about the pressure as much as women do. But especially in today's age, it seems as if half-naked hard-bodied bulky men are EVERYWHERE, and women not so much. With all the strong male characters in movies and the idols that women and girls put on a pedestal, how can you deny it?

[BlackSilence]

Originally Posted by Zeke.

Women may play into the pressure more than men, because some men just don't give a ****, but at the end of the day, the male physique is always something that is to be desired and attained, and it's a daunting task trying to acquire such an image. Men just don't talk about the pressure as much as women do. But especially in today's age, it seems as if half-naked hard-bodied bulky men are EVERYWHERE, and women not so much. With all the strong male characters in movies and the idols that women and girls put on a pedestal, how can you deny it?

Fact is in all the magazines i have the cms that are around i cannot recall seeing a half naked man...you know why? because you can sell products with women in cms for both genders while with men? well...that's a tricky thing, probably only movies.....so woman are more around, photoshopped to death and what not basicly giving a "beauty standart". Also there IS a fair percentage of males who suffer from eating dissorders just like females do.
In fact it is common, and it does happen. We are all humans. It's just not talked about as much as with females. And i think it's a bad idea not to, cuz certain things DO get into guys' minds too and affect them just as bad as girls. It should get more awarness so those who still keep silent would not feel like it's a weak thing they are giving into that and finally get help.

One thing that gets me is also how female celebs are ALWAYS being thrown in to mags for loosing weight gaining weight, now i never saw someone to do that with male celebs...hmm Maybe just with Kevin >_O

I dunnno i don't get society...
and we're off topic now -_-"

[DogboyShugo]

after looking at the set list i found it to be a bit boring

[ayu-butterfly]

I would love to see her with the CDL 05-06 dark hair again. It would be awesome.

[jean-baptiste]

I'm really liking her with dark hair.

[280301]

I love her hair in the Memorial Address, MY STORY and (miss)understood eras.

It just looks so glossy throughout those eras, like Ayu had five hairstylists on her at all times. XD

[kotora]

I love how I wrote a motivation message and people replied the message in essay form to defend their points.



Fandom never dies.

[marty]

^
And do you think it's such a bad thing, lol?
Long live the fandom inside our hearts!

[kotora]

Originally Posted by marty

^
And do you think it's such a bad thing, lol?
Long live the fandom inside our hearts!

I don't think it is a bad thing. I just think it is so funny.

[marty]

^It most definitely is funny!

[mi|kshake]

i never want her weight from HANABI ~II~ times back... she was sooo
fragile

I agree.

I always like her with her blond hair because it's very "Ayu", although the Step You/Is This Love hair was gorgeous too!

[NeverEverAgain]

Originally Posted by mi|kshake

I agree.

I always like her with her blond hair because it's very "Ayu", although the Step You/Is This Love hair was gorgeous too!

I loved her hair from Is This Love, I would love to see that hair style again it was very different for her.

[Zeke.]

I don't think it ever was photoshopped though. There were a few of her looking hefty. Gaga even wrote something on how she was going to begin the process of losing weight soon after that photo surfaced, and now she's back in shape.