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Old 9th December 2012, 02:09 AM
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^ So one could probably sum that up as
"Ayu's popularity grew because she made people nostalgic. She herself reminded people of others, so they latched onto her in order to remember the past"

that, and dem lyrics.
I have no emotional attachment to shrills and shrieks of death.

Here I go, judging...
Well, to be fair, this is not an "Ayu thing"... It's very common for pop singers to both inspire themselves on past vocalists and add some technical imperfections to their voices as a way to make it recognizible and unique. I don't know enough jpop to get deeper on that, but taking western music as an example, Britney's singing started as a mix a way to explot her virgin/***** image and 80's Madonna, 80's Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson with hints of Whitney on the ballads. She was a far more competent vocalist before, but her voice wasn't either recognizible or iconic on it's own.
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^But we can still say that she reminded people of other singers from the past, so they latched onto her like hungry slugs.
Her early album sales prove it.
It's definitely not an ayu thing, but that's what I got out of reading one of your posts
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Old 9th December 2012, 02:17 AM
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^But we can still say that she reminded people of other singers from the past, so they latched onto her like hungry slugs.
Her early album sales prove it.
It's definitely not an ayu thing, but that's what I got out of reading one of your posts
I didn't say she got big because she reminded people of singers from the past, I said it played a role on her voice becoming iconic. But this is very, very natural... People tend to like what they already know and recognize, and popstars are always build having past popstars as a base.

There's this very interesting Beyoncé video, I believe she was introducing Tina during the Grammy's, where she cites her biggest influences as a performer and singer, and once you think about it, you can really see she took a lot from those people.
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I didn't say she got big because she reminded people of singers from the past, I said it played a role on her voice becoming iconic. But this is very, very natural... People tend to like what they already know and recognize, and popstars are always build having past popstars as a base.

There's this very interesting Beyoncé video, I believe she was introducing Tina during the Grammy's, where she cites her biggest influences as a performer and singer, and once you think about it, you can really see she took a lot from those people.
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that's not why i got into Ayu tbh.
I just played dearest over and over till i liked it and got hungry for more.
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a ton of people say it was her lyrics that attracted them to her songs.
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Old 9th December 2012, 02:23 AM
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It would be very bizarre if you got into Ayumi because she reminded you of popstars you didn't know as they weren't part of your cultural reference...
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^ that may be the case, but you never know
I surprise myself all the time.

i thought i was gonna love sweet scar but then wake me up came out.
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EVERYONE always draws inspiration from something else, whoever says they dont is lying to you.

Its the same with popstars. I don't think they are based off something but draw inspiration from it.
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EVERYONE always draws inspiration from something else, whoever says they dont is lying to you.

Its the same with popstars. I don't think they are based off something but draw inspiration from it.
Being based on someone and drawing inspiration from someone is basically the same thing if the final goal is making it recognizible enought to be appealing to the public. You are getting characteristics from past performers to construct yourself as a performer.

And I'm not saying this is something bad, or wrong, just that this happens.
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^ i know what your saying, but what I'm saying is I wouldn't put it like that.
being based off something implies more than just drawing inspiration from.

its just my personal preference. (I do a lot of writing and TV work and drawing inspiration is much better then basing it off something... I'm thinking of it as a book turned to movie however)
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Snowy kiss has REALLLLLY grown on me!
Damn, it's amazing.
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^ the only thing that I wasnt attracted to about that song was the length, but baby... it could be longer
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Old 9th December 2012, 02:59 AM
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^ but it's the quality, not length


Oh lord, the metaphors XD

To be fair, the remix is nice AND long.
Oh... I need to study for exams.
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I thought AGAIN wouldn't be as good as LOVE, but I was so wrong!! I think AGAIN is even better than LOVE!! Love all the new tracks, the PVs really help alot.
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Wake me up and Ivy are the standout tracks for me.
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lol, that first picture she looks so confused, lol..
thanks for the share!
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I love the first pic *-*
Kyaaaa!! Her face Ó3Ò meh!
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