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Old 19th September 2013, 05:29 AM
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her chorus sing:
we're on the journey looking for love, we will grow up and to be happy

she sing: i'm on the journey looking for love

and the song end with:
bokutachi wa kono nagai tabiji no (at the end of this long journey)
i believe... anything anywhere anytime anyone
wow thanks for the lyrics! after listening to the ori studio version, i shockingly realized that there indeed are these English lines at the background (not to know it for years omg)
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wow thanks for the lyrics! after listening to the ori studio version, i shockingly realized that there indeed are these English lines at the background (not to know it for years omg)
i also just realize after you mention those line are in original version, now i more love when ayu did this "a best live" ver
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Old 22nd September 2013, 02:36 PM
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her chorus sing:
we're on the journey looking for love, we will grow up and to be happy

she sing: i'm on the journey looking for love

and the song end with:
bokutachi wa kono nagai tabiji no (at the end of this long journey)
i believe... anything anywhere anytime anyone
Thanks for the added lyrics! This makes Voyage an even more meaningful song
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Old 18th September 2013, 06:57 PM
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Ohhhh and to be happy! haha ok thank you!
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Old 18th September 2013, 10:34 PM
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Highly surprised by teddy bear, Key, No way to say and HEAVEN. A Song for XX sounded horrible imo, but the arrangement was nice. Voyage's new arrangement is horrible
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Old 19th September 2013, 05:54 AM
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Lol I didn't like the new arrangement of Voyage either. Soo cheesy Even though she did sound great.
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Old 19th September 2013, 01:44 PM
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No wonder she released this live CD, her vocals are a AMAZING!
Can't wait to watch this tour in blu-ray!
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Old 19th September 2013, 05:02 PM
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i adore the new arrangement of Voyage!
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Old 19th September 2013, 09:26 PM
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I really liked the new Voyage arrangement, I normally can't stand that song, but it was really beautiful on the cd.
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Old 20th September 2013, 03:59 AM
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I think poker face is prerecording, Fly high too...
i compared between CD ver. and Real live rips.
maybe HEAVEN is not full live. i think it has part of prerecording
JEWEL is live.
but i can't assure M and No way to say are full live
maybe No way to say has part of prerecording. M is full live
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Old 20th September 2013, 05:00 AM
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I think poker face is prerecording, Fly high too...
i compared between CD ver. and Real live rips.
maybe HEAVEN is not full live. i think it has part of prerecording
JEWEL is live.
but i can't assure M and No way to say are full live
maybe No way to say has part of prerecording. M is full live
Nops. Her voice is just edited.
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Old 20th September 2013, 09:05 AM
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Nops. Her voice is just edited.
i know they edited a lot.. autotunes

but the poker face and Fly high 'CD ver.' are almost same with 'Real live ver.' / the sound is exactly same

you can download also you can listen.

i give you the Link

http://www.general-files.org/files-a...r-a-best-live/

Download : 03 poker face - 09 BLUE BIRD.wav
10 JEWEL + 11 HEAVEN + 12 SAKURA + ever free.wav

bottom part you can see

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Old 21st September 2013, 10:58 AM
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I think poker face is prerecording, Fly high too...
i compared between CD ver. and Real live rips.
Poker face, Fligh high and Honey were pre-recorded for this tour, only these 3 songs. The rest is live.
And I don't know why people complain about the vocals, she sounds WAY better that in Power of music for example. I personally can not listen to Power of music, except for bonus songs.
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Old 21st September 2013, 12:56 PM
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Poker face, Fligh high and Honey were pre-recorded for this tour, only these 3 songs. The rest is live.
And I don't know why people complain about the vocals, she sounds WAY better that in Power of music for example. I personally can not listen to Power of music, except for bonus songs.
I think ayu2001 was trying say that those track were not from the last date recording but from other tour dates. Which means it's live and not recorded. Totally different from what you're implying here. I don't really like this live CD too. Not her vocals but the quality of the recording wasn't up to standard. It sounds too soft and somethig which we can do when we get the blu ray/DVD with the exception of the extra track.
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Old 22nd September 2013, 01:22 PM
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I think ayu2001 was trying say that those track were not from the last date recording but from other tour dates. Which means it's live and not recorded.
soorry.... but i meant she used one pre-recording song during whole being held concert (April~July) / i can say on CD, the poker face and Fly high were from last date live ver. she said 'fi-na-ru' or 'ikujae yoyogi' or 'minnade' or 'ikanji' 'ikuyo' when she sings Fly high on CD ver. you can't hear these words on fan rip ver. (if poker face and Fly high are not pre-recording songs the possibility still remains that they used other day's live ver for release. but i can assure they are pre-recording songs)

by the way i like this live cd. but releasing this CD is little bit disappointing.

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Old 22nd September 2013, 01:27 PM
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I'm undecided on whether to buy the bluray or not. I typically don't buy concert releases but I like this set list...
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Old 22nd September 2013, 11:43 PM
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soorry.... but i meant she used one pre-recording song during whole being held concert (April~July) / i can say on CD, the poker face and Fly high were from last date live ver. she said 'fi-na-ru' or 'ikujae yoyogi' or 'minnade' or 'ikanji' 'ikuyo' when she sings Fly high on CD ver. you can't hear these words on fan rip ver. (if poker face and Fly high are not pre-recording songs the possibility still remains that they used other day's live ver for release. but i can assure they are pre-recording songs)
Yes, I know what you meant and that's still my point. As what Chris85 had pointed out was the same pre-recorded track was used throughout the tour. But in this case where you've pointed out yourself was that the recording was different on the final show. Thus, there's no guarantee that all shows were used with pre-recorded track.
(Do we have fan recordings from the last live? I think we only have recordings from the earlier dates)
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yes, you're right. they used autotunes a lot.
anyway, do you know PCDL has a lot of pre-recorded songs?
medley (especially ANGEL'S SONG-I have video if you want i will give you.).. SCAR.. Over... the TV version of PCDL on 12.31 proves the truth. she missed words but sound is streaming. (example. when she sings 'Over', the part 'it's over' in middle, she put down the microphone but the sound is streaming. but on DVD ver. she doesn't put down the microphone and she sang that part. it's scary thing though!! they mixed 2008.12.30 and 2008.12.31 for release. And they(Maybe it was WOWOW TV) broadcasted the same live on another day. they changed that scene.)
and she released PCDL CD for NEXT LEVEL.
i'm sure you knew these facts.
as you know she has been using pre-recorded songs for a long time.
maybe she used pre-recorded songs on A BEST LIVE too.
but i don't care about it.
and did you listen what i linked files? if you did, you could find what i said. it's almost same. i think anyone can't deny the fact.

in my case. i like this LIVE CD. i enjoyed this CD. still love her live.
but they advertise 'it's live CD'. it's little bit dishonor.
they have no sense of honor.
the CD's title is 'LIVE'. but they use pre-recorded songs on LIVE CD. can you believe?
I understand she uses pre-recording songs for LIVE.
if she uses pre-recorded songs on LIVE, I DO NOT CARE about it.
in fact, i don't like pre-recording but seriously i don't care.
but releasing LIVE cd is absolutely ridiculous. and they are selling the CDs.
i feel uncomfortable. she did already before though. (PCDL CD.)
i think she will have to never release live cd if she uses pre-recorded songs for concert. or she has to exclude the pre-recorded songs.
also i think she is to blame for that. i'm 14 years fan of ayu. i love her from 1999. but if she goes wrong way, i will blame her because i'm a fan of her. i can't stand that she loose her own pride in these days... choosing these tracks to include is disappointing decision i think..
Just wana touch a bit only the PCDL. I hope everyone remembers that she was injured before the live show and had little time to do rehearsal and even at the point before the concert, she was dealing with pain and this CDL consist of olders song which she didn't sang live before. So I don't blame her for the use of prerecording and lip-syncing during this show (for some tracks).

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thank you title156.
i have question title156..
hmm..why some people don't try to believe poker face and Fly high are pre-recorded songs on this posting at least?
and some people look upset when i said about the live cd has some pre-recorded songs. why?
i just said it has pre-recorded songs at first. i didn't say any my opinion for including pre-recorded songs.
and then why did they do?
i enjoyed your video though. thank you
Back to the pre-recorded tracks again, since she has already proven that it wasn't always pre-recorded tracks with the last show of the tour, she might not have use pre-recoreded tracks throughout the tour which maybe is why there is 2 views on this. So instead of asking people to accept that she used pre-recordings, have you ever asked yourself if you would accept that she didn't do it for the whole tour? (unless of course, that you've been to all her tours and had recorded and compared all the live recordings)
I don't know who you're talking about being upset regarding this but I feel that it's a little bit difficult to see who is upset by just looking at the words. The person might just be debating on the topic and not really upset about it (like in my case. It's more of sharing my view. I'm not really upset about pre-recordings. I'm upset about the quality of the recording instead...)
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Old 22nd September 2013, 11:21 AM
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I think poker face is prerecording, Fly high too...
i compared between CD ver. and Real live rips.
maybe HEAVEN is not full live. i think it has part of prerecording
JEWEL is live.
but i can't assure M and No way to say are full live
maybe No way to say has part of prerecording. M is full live
The ones you hear on the CD is basically the "real live ver." but polished the fuck up by Autotunes, that's why they sound similar, only better. All of the songs on the CD are "full live", but Autotuned; I doubt there is a prerecorded part in them, except for some parts in Tell All (i.e. "nani mo kowakunai yo") - so when there actually is, you can obviously tell.
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Old 22nd September 2013, 02:50 PM
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The ones you hear on the CD is basically the "real live ver." but polished the fuck up by Autotunes, that's why they sound similar, only better. All of the songs on the CD are "full live", but Autotuned; I doubt there is a prerecorded part in them, except for some parts in Tell All (i.e. "nani mo kowakunai yo") - so when there actually is, you can obviously tell.
yes, you're right. they used autotunes a lot.
anyway, do you know PCDL has a lot of pre-recorded songs?
medley (especially ANGEL'S SONG-I have video if you want i will give you.).. SCAR.. Over... the TV version of PCDL on 12.31 proves the truth. she missed words but sound is streaming. (example. when she sings 'Over', the part 'it's over' in middle, she put down the microphone but the sound is streaming. but on DVD ver. she doesn't put down the microphone and she sang that part. it's scary thing though!! they mixed 2008.12.30 and 2008.12.31 for release. And they(Maybe it was WOWOW TV) broadcasted the same live on another day. they changed that scene.)
and she released PCDL CD for NEXT LEVEL.
i'm sure you knew these facts.
as you know she has been using pre-recorded songs for a long time.
maybe she used pre-recorded songs on A BEST LIVE too.
but i don't care about it.
and did you listen what i linked files? if you did, you could find what i said. it's almost same. i think anyone can't deny the fact.

in my case. i like this LIVE CD. i enjoyed this CD. still love her live.
but they advertise 'it's live CD'. it's little bit dishonor.
they have no sense of honor.
the CD's title is 'LIVE'. but they use pre-recorded songs on LIVE CD. can you believe?
I understand she uses pre-recording songs for LIVE.
if she uses pre-recorded songs on LIVE, I DO NOT CARE about it.
in fact, i don't like pre-recording but seriously i don't care.
but releasing LIVE cd is absolutely ridiculous. and they are selling the CDs.
i feel uncomfortable. she did already before though. (PCDL CD.)
i think she will have to never release live cd if she uses pre-recorded songs for concert. or she has to exclude the pre-recorded songs.
also i think she is to blame for that. i'm 14 years fan of ayu. i love her from 1999. but if she goes wrong way, i will blame her because i'm a fan of her. i can't stand that she loose her own pride in these days... choosing these tracks to include is disappointing decision i think..

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Old 22nd September 2013, 04:56 PM
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I noticed something I don't understand with the HEAVEN perf.
You can hear a "glitch" when she sings "Koraekirezu namida aFUreta". And I always noticed this issue with the CD version! She must pronounce "afureta" in a funny way or there is something weird here.

The prerecorded tracks is not a real issue IMO. She proves she is working on polishing her voice and there is a result. It's not like a quarter of the live was "fake". We are not back to the PCDL era. I just hope the tendency to use prerecorded vocals is not back.
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