ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~ setlist and pictures [II] - Page 19

aloopy · #1 4th May 2009, 08:31 PM

thanks for sharing~

omg the stage & screens. so awesome. i'm speechless.

noidea · #2 4th May 2009, 08:39 PM

^ some people seem to underestimate ayus intelligence really strongly.
ANGEL'S SONG PCDL0809 sounded worse than the studio version and was synched, theme of a-nation '03 on CDL0506 sounded worse than the studio recording and was synched, these two are 100% proven because she made a mistake miming the words, she is smart to make them worse than the studio recordings, because people like you would believe everything worse than the studio recording is live xD

kumi duff · #3 4th May 2009, 08:59 PM

I love the stage & screens, she looks so cute... i wanna see the full show now >_<
thank youuu

aura~ · #4 4th May 2009, 09:05 PM

OH NO please!!! ... again lip-sync discusion starts...-___-

oh well, by the way i'm lovin how this AT is tourning out! I love the stage is so amazing and colorfull!! and she is so cuute!

zyoeru · #5 4th May 2009, 09:08 PM

I don't think it's playback. After ANGEL'S SONG you would think that she wouldn't be stupid enough to sing a song on playback and have the screen zoomed on her face.

Therefore I think it's live. Plus it SOUNDS live from what I can tell.

noidea · #6 4th May 2009, 09:09 PM

^ Well, they HAVE to show her face sometimes xD

MissElin_ · #7 4th May 2009, 09:31 PM

Well only the ppl who saw it will actually know about the lipsync. I will give that discussion a rest until I see it for myself and later when the DVD comes out.

However, OMG the stage is AMAZING!!! O.o Love it!

truehappiness · #8 4th May 2009, 09:47 PM

Very muted, but it sounds like she's singing to me.

I swear, a lot of you are going conspiracy-theorist on Ayu for no real reason whatsoever. It's rather sad that people always think of "playback/lipsynching" when she sounds okay. Gone are the days when people just enjoyed a concert without thinking: "Oh, maybe she isn't really singing this..". It's a sad day in the world of an Ayu fan.

love in music · #9 4th May 2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I swear, a lot of you are going conspiracy-theorist on Ayu for no real reason whatsoever. It's rather sad that people always think of "playback/lipsynching" when she sounds okay. Gone are the days when people just enjoyed a concert without thinking: "Oh, maybe she isn't really singing this..". It's a sad day in the world of an Ayu fan.

i totally agree. and i don't know why the lip-synching thing matters so much to people. it's especially weird when people spend a large amount of their time 'investigating' each and every performance to see if it has been lipsynched. that complete playback thread is CREEPY.

i'm just happy she's there doing her thing. bad voice or not, lipsynching or not. lol

aura~ · #10 4th May 2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I swear, a lot of you are going conspiracy-theorist on Ayu for no real reason whatsoever. It's rather sad that people always think of "playback/lipsynching" when she sounds okay. Gone are the days when people just enjoyed a concert without thinking: "Oh, maybe she isn't really singing this..". It's a sad day in the world of an Ayu fan.

It's starting to be a paranoia or something....

truehappiness · #11 4th May 2009, 10:14 PM

Also, concerning the whole ticketing situation, I wonder if the economy really does have something to do with it. That plus the fact that she's probably going around to arenas closer to people's hometowns, it's possible that they knew some arenas weren't gonna sell out (like the largest two she usually performs in, Yokohama and Saitama). It just doesn't add up that Ayu / avex would add so many more dates to the tour and have it last for so long only to have it "fail". And another thing, considering that NEXT LEVEL came out less than two weeks before the tour, I feel as though people might have needed time to digest the album, since they usually get 3-5 months to do so since her albums tend to be released in the fourth quarter of the year. Eh, we can speculate endlessly about why things happen and why Ayu wanted things the way they are, but.. in the end all we can do is enjoy (or.. not enjoy?) what's being shown to us. -sigh-

**ayumisrael** · #12 4th May 2009, 11:12 PM

The screening looks awesome!!
ayu sounds so good in there, and makes even cuter voice lol.

I don't understand why people try so hard to prove she's lip-syncing when she does that and they try to find it. Is it so important to "prove" she is "crap"?
The lip-sync subject is shoved too much, yeah she does that (and luckily it's not most of the time) it's ok to say oh she lip-synced that song but there is no need to exaggerate more than what it is like it's a sin and she murdered the japanese prime minister. Specially when she is just using a playback and singing live and play back discussions become serious (not the lip-syncing).

As long as she sings live almost all of the time and give good performances who cares.

Evolution7/4 · #13 4th May 2009, 11:25 PM

OMG the screens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Turns out it is true that costumes aren't the main thing of this tour!

aloopy · #14 5th May 2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Evolution7/4

OMG the screens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Turns out it is true that costumes aren't the main thing of this tour!

yeah i know right

at first i was disappointed because she uses the same songs from pcdl. and her outfits are not that great either.
but the stage and screens totally make up for it <3

**ayumisrael** · #15 4th May 2009, 11:27 PM

Yeah the screening and effects alone got me really drew me around it, they should be one of the bests yet.
I want to watch the DVD already, so long time...

emi♡ · #16 4th May 2009, 11:58 PM

About the EnergizE perf....I thought the people who went to it live here said that she actually did sing it...

but she sang it in the cutesy voice because she was being safe or something?

So yey her outfits still suck...but everything else is total greatness<3

I don't think I'll like the energize thing lol but the screens and the stage is wonderful.

thanks for posting guys

SunshineSlayer · #17 5th May 2009, 12:05 AM

^ Yeah, I hope people don't shoot me, but that doesn't sound live AT ALL to me. Hopefully it is only this song.

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Originally Posted by Furashubakku

I don't think it's playback. After ANGEL'S SONG you would think that she wouldn't be stupid enough to sing a song on playback and have the screen zoomed on her face.

You'd think she would have learned that from CDL 04/05 then.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I swear, a lot of you are going conspiracy-theorist on Ayu for no real reason whatsoever. It's rather sad that people always think of "playback/lipsynching" when she sounds okay.

That's totally not the reason why. I mean for one, I don't even think she sounds that great.

But no, the main reason is that she is wearing a head set mic, yet you hear nothing other than her voice. Not to mention that she is moving quite a bit yet there isn't really any effect on her voice. For comparison, look how much her voice was effected by doing the cutesy movements in Depend on You at AT08. It at least to me, does not look or sound live.

I at least like the stage - how bright and colorful it is.

zyoeru · #18 5th May 2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

You'd think she would have learned that from CDL 04/05 then.

Haha. I never saw 04/05.

Actually, to be totally honest, I don't care if she lip-syncs. Because I agree, she doesn't do it all the time like a lot of artists. Plus when she DOES screw it up it's fun to hear people getting all bent out of shape about it.

maikaru · #19 5th May 2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

That's totally not the reason why. I mean for one, I don't even think she sounds that great.

But no, the main reason is that she is wearing a head set mic, yet you hear nothing other than her voice. Not to mention that she is moving quite a bit yet there isn't really any effect on her voice. For comparison, look how much her voice was effected by doing the cutesy movements in Depend on You at AT08. It at least to me, does not look or sound live.

I at least like the stage - how bright and colorful it is.

everything is lipsync to you.. -_-)

The depend on you on the dvd was affected by the cold, that's why it affected her voice.
Those movements in Energize should not affect her voice at all..
And really, this is a fancam video, with poor audio.
How can you tell if there is anything else other than her voice? -_-);;;

I dont think this is lipsync at all..
She is able to do this song easily, I think.. ahahaha.

I really love this stage.
whoever said this stage is recycled is crazy~~~ ahahaha.
I love all the colours *-*
I cant wait for the dvd.

SunshineSlayer · #20 5th May 2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by maikaru

everything is lipsync to you.. -_-)

Umm no.

Rule didn't seem like it at all. This does. If you can hear her voice in the recording, you should be able to hear the mic sounds as well - mic sounds on headset mics are super clear in an actual live setting. No one is asking you to agree with me. And her voice sounded just as bad in Depend on You at the concert date that I went to as the one on DVD does.

There is also a Japanese report from the Saitama show that says they suspect that Energize was lip synched, they also mention thinking that identity was as well: http://ameblo.jp/komaneko7859/entry-10241434500.html