[Charts & Rankings] The IV Oricon Thread of NEXT LEVEL ~Keeps rollin'~

[ayumisrael]

#36 today ^^

[waterballoon]

^ Thanks! I was wondering what the position was today, and then you posted something about #1 on another thread, and I thought it was this and I got so excited and omgszx before I read on and realized it was for PCDL DVD. >.< LOL.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by ayumixfan

Anyways I don't think Next Level will beat Trick because Ayu's sales position might be steadier but her sales is declining pretty steadily. Thats just my guess, but I think the sales difference isn't that huge for it to be impossible. we'll see : D. Go Ayu! Show us what your album is made of haha

Spoiler:

TRICK 7th week: 4,081
7-week total: 373,068

[lfe.]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

It seems that it might have a very slight chance of beating TRICK in the end as TRICK is now selling less than 1k and has sold around 383k copies. Go NL!! The difference is only 29k now.

If NL sales remain steady like AC did, its possible it can break 400k in the distant future.

[MissElin_]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

#36 today ^^

Oh I didnt see yesterdays position so I still thought it would be around 20 something. It have dropped quite a bit.

[TITANIC]

^ yesterday was #32

[SolarAngel]

Urgh... Not good. I thought her albums usually go up when the week draws on.

[Lanz16]

I've just visited the ORICON lately and it was filled with, mostly, new releases!
I expected the NL was just rammed again and kicked out from top 30.


Breaking the 350k is great and im expecting that it will reach 370k after 3 months.

[Ayu_Ready]

it's so hard to see this >.<

GO NL >.< It must out of top 30 !

[ayumisrael]

#35 today!

[SolarAngel]

Hmm doesn't look like there's much chance for it to go above top 30, maybe later during the week.

[njanjayrp]

^ Well as long as the sales don't go below 3-4k it should be fine, regardless of the position

[truehappiness]

Weren't there like 20 new albums though?

[jbrat2219]

20? Isn't that abnormally high?

[truehappiness]

Well, I recall someone saying that there were upwards of 20 new things in the top 20..

wow someone is hating on DBSK : ( What a shame. Just because they are a boyband doesn't mean they cannot gain no fans. You know JE doesn't have all the fan girls in Japan : P Would you like it if I said ayu got popular from stealing namie's fans when she went on a hiatus? D :

As far as I'm concerned, JE has all of the fangirls and fanboys in Japan, and any group similar to them probably is gaining the same kinds of fans with some exceptions. But for the most part, I believe DBSK's sales are coming from people who love what they see in JE and see it in DBSK as well, it's only logical to think this, and delusional to think otherwise. That last sentence is just hooey since Namie's fanbase was totally different from Ayu's. Next argument, please.

[ayumixfan]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

I didn't say DBSK stole anyone's fans ^^ DBSK occasionally have songs that some of the JE groups could do, but their music is pretty different than what most of the JE's are doing. I like DBSK (at least some of their stuff).

Namie and Ayu are like Rikku and Sora. I was just saying that you can't say that Ayu only took over the Namie fans as Ayu had way more people buying her albums than Namie did, while DBSK still aren't selling better than most of the JE acts.

^ oh ok I'm fine with that then : ) I jsut thought u were saying that DBSK stole JE fans which is really silly. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my side haha.

Truehappiness, this is what you think. Obviously, all singers steal fans from other singers no matter what. There are only so many fans out there. But u just can't conclude that THSK is riding off JE's popularity because u think so v_v If that was to be true they'd be popular at debut wouldn't they v_v they obviously took the time to release good music that caught people's attention to gain a fanbase that is slowly growing v_v btw I don't get how people can't understand that i just set that as an example -_-" I'm not saying ayu actaully stole all of namie's fan to become popular =_=" and honestly you really don't know if namie's fan base was all that different fromy ayu's. Let's at least be honest about that. People can like more than one singer. Ayu did gain A TON of her successand peak after namie's leave so this could mean that ayu did gain a lot of her fans from namie's leave and might've became the Queen of Jpop with the support of her original fans + namie's fans who turned to ayu after namie took a small break. I'm not saying this is true, but its a possibility. If you think about it the image they posed as the queen of avex, fashion divas, jpop with love ballads, strong independent women, there are similarities between the two artist. Which shows how u cant just assume one artist steals fans from another to gain sales v_v. Just because THSK is a boyband after JE was created doesn't mean they are living from stealing fans or copying them or w.e. v_v If JE had all the fangirls how do expect EXILE and other groups to sell that aren't all JE like. People like variety you know v_v and not everyone is going to like the same things. lets not just jump to conclusions for one artist and make an exception for ayu because that is totally unfair : ( If its your opinion then fine, but I mean lets just not make it into a fact next time : )

and interesting fact ayu_fan926! I never really stayed in touch with trick's sales cuz i'm not really a kuu fan. :O I guess it does show some hope of ayu overselling trick : )

[truehappiness]

Obviously, all singers steal fans from other singers no matter what.

It's not that they're stealing fans, it's that the fans that they do have were already JE fans probably is all. Of all the people you know who like DBSK, isn't it sort of normal for them to have liked JE before? You = overcomplicating a simple matter.

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Of all the people you know who like DBSK, isn't it sort of normal for them to have liked .

I know of cases where the opposite happened

[ayumixfan]

I'm not overcomplicating it ur just generalizing fangirls, which isn't nice to fangirls : ( Like karen said there are examples of it being the other way around and examples of girls who do not even like JE but like THSK. I have many friends who LOVE THSK but only like 1 or 2 songs from JE and don't even think they're good looking. I'm not a fan of either LOL I just think its rude and unfair to fans of DBSK to generalize them like that.

I forgot to add Good for ayu! she climbed out of the 50s =)

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by KarenPang

I know of cases where the opposite happened.

Well, there are always going to be cases in which that sort of thing happens [Namie fans -> Ayu, or Ayu fans -> every dang artist ever] but the point is that most of the time, fans [not fangirls, since guys like them too it seems] JE fans are going to end up DBSK fans, and I imagine that's exactly what's happening in Japan. Or BoA's old fans are liking them a lot.

I'm not a fan of either LOL I just think its rude and unfair to fans of DBSK to generalize them like that

How the jesus is this being rude? I'm just stating the blatantly obvious in my opinion. If you can't handle that, PM me about it and I probably won't respond because I don't really care about this. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

We should stop this conversation before it gets trashed. Again.

And good on Ayu for being so stable. I hope she sells at least 15-20k in the next month..