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Old 25th March 2011, 01:31 AM
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I think the main thing is that Wester fan's wouldnt even care about ayu if they didnt like her, thus the only western fans you'll find on ayu threads are those that like her, otherwise since they actually have to go and FIND her music, they wouldnt even know who she is. As opposed to Japanese people who are ALL exposed to her, and so they all can make their opinions on her, and so you hear everyone's opinion from the Japanese side. People in the west who didnt like ayu wouldnt be on AHS so you wouldnt hear their opinions you know what i mean?
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Old 25th March 2011, 01:43 AM
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yeah, that's the most logic explanation AyumiAi
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Old 25th March 2011, 01:52 AM
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Old 25th March 2011, 04:10 PM
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most of the asian people I have met specially japanese ones really hate ayumi.
idk why.

Also the non asian don't say anything bad about her, all they ask if I know what she's saying
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Old 28th March 2011, 01:35 AM
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I see her being diva at the stage, she really rocks it with confidence, its not just the dress. She acts like 'the world is mine' <3
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Old 28th March 2011, 06:53 PM
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the only part of her career which she seems to be a diva is the (miss)understood era with her wearing fur and everything..

when I tell people about me listening to Asian songs the first thing I get to hear is "but you don't understand it?!"..
yea, well I can enjoy music without understanding the words and it's not like they understand English songs when they hear them for the first time.. it's just so silly..
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Old 28th March 2011, 07:08 PM
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when I tell people about me listening to Asian songs the first thing I get to hear is "but you don't understand it?!"..
yea, well I can enjoy music without understanding the words and it's not like they understand English songs when they hear them for the first time.. it's just so silly..
Ugh, I totally agree! It's so silly that some people refuse to give music a chance sometimes just because of a language barrier.
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Old 31st March 2011, 10:22 AM
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well,she is a diva but...i think that she is a smart woman and a great person and seeing the videos with her fans in LA/london...confirms that she is a good person.
egoist? I think that all the people is a bit "egoist",is a normal thing ^_^,but be excessively egoist is bad...
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Old 31st March 2011, 12:12 PM
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I think japanese people call her lazy because they're all very hardworking or that's what I've heard/seen (especially during this disaster they have going on), but I wouldn't call Ayu lazy. She's a very hardworking and passionate woman when it comes to her work. Seriously, along with those massive tours she writes songs and records them. I don't think I could do the same.

And I don't think she sleeps makeup on when she's with Mannie. >.> How can someone even think that? She has been with Mannie so long I bet Mannie thinks she's as beautiful as ever with or without makeup.
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Old 31st March 2011, 02:04 PM
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And I don't think she sleeps makeup on when she's with Mannie. >.> How can someone even think that? She has been with Mannie so long I bet Mannie thinks she's as beautiful as ever with or without makeup.
You can easily see Ayu without make up on any making off video...^^
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The people from Japan who I spoke to had really different opinions, so it's hard for me to generalize it. Some said she is charismatic and as opposed to Koda Kumi not a passing trend, the others said they liked some of her older songs and that they aren't really fans, while some others said they just don't listen to her as she doesn't do their fave genres. On the other hand a friend of mine, also from Japan seemed to have disliked her a lot, mostly for her glamorous image.

Imo people who aren't fans assume a lot about her and I figure they read most of it in tabloids and newspaper.
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Old 31st March 2011, 02:38 PM
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People around me who are not her fans tend to not like her because of the tabloids and newspapers, which often depict her as someone who only cares about going shopping everywhere, etc. I don't like the news media anyway, so I am not surprised to hear such things.

To me she is very hardworking, passionate, and successful. I think doing two sets of live (arena tour and CDL) is very demanding, both physically and mentally. Plus she always has tons of recording, photo-shooting, and lyrics-writing to do. She is incredible to me because I feel she never feels tired. Really admire her energy!

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I actually admire her for dropping out of school.
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Old 31st March 2011, 05:32 PM
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I actually admire her for dropping out of school.
I wouldn't use the word "admire" in my case, but it makes me proud somehow. If Ayu and Pocahontas can be without an education so can I! I'm most likely gonna drop out of school at the end of this year (12 years of school is enough, thank you ) and it makes me feel not-that-terrible when I watch Ayu. Not saying that I'm gonna become a singer, but education might be overrated.

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I wouldn't use the word "admire" in my case, but it makes me proud somehow. If Ayu and Pocahontas can be without an education so can I! I'm most likely gonna drop out of school at the end of this year (12 years of school is enough, thank you ) and it makes me feel not-that-terrible when I watch Ayu. Not saying that I'm gonna become a singer, but education might be overrated.
Just to clarify, Ayu isn't considered a drop out the same way that we would consider it in America. In Japan, a student only needs to finish Junior High School to be considered successfully graduated and able to join the work force; which I'm pretty sure Ayu did. (Junior High is the equivalent of finishing 10th grade in the US.) Ayu went to a performing arts senior high school briefly, but High Schools in Japan are actually optional. Of course going to high school though will give you better job options.
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Old 3rd April 2011, 05:03 PM
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Just to clarify, Ayu isn't considered a drop out the same way that we would consider it in America. In Japan, a student only needs to finish Junior High School to be considered successfully graduated and able to join the work force; which I'm pretty sure Ayu did. (Junior High is the equivalent of finishing 10th grade in the US.) Ayu went to a performing arts senior high school briefly, but High Schools in Japan are actually optional. Of course going to high school though will give you better job options.
Okay I have no idea what you said since I am not from America and do not know their school system xD ^^ wow I really feel dumb right now, but you understood the point I was trying to say earlier, right? Oh and do you remember how Ayu once tweeted (??) about her "dropping out from school" when she got criticized about "not being taken seriously" or something?
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Just to clarify, Ayu isn't considered a drop out the same way that we would consider it in America. In Japan, a student only needs to finish Junior High School to be considered successfully graduated and able to join the work force; which I'm pretty sure Ayu did. (Junior High is the equivalent of finishing 10th grade in the US.) Ayu went to a performing arts senior high school briefly, but High Schools in Japan are actually optional. Of course going to high school though will give you better job options.
10 grades are alright I guess. Here the elementary school is 8 years long, after that everything is pretty much optional, though getting a job, even with high school (4 years) is pretty hard. Though if I had any talents I'd prolly try pursuing a career that doesn't involve studying, so who can really blame her.
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Lol, I've only encountered like three or four who actually liked her. Several Japanese I've talked to have referred to her as an old lady, or more rude things, or that they only know Dearest and Voyage. :/
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Old 31st March 2011, 05:16 PM
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if that's their opinion as hater
i think it's pretty sick that their answer to her being popular is that her songs are good LOL
that's what matters anyways so ayu wins yeyeye
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Old 31st March 2011, 08:29 PM
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Idk maybe japanese people disapprove her 'cause she ain't a regular japanese woman. She trod her own path without worrying about what others think.
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