Daft Punk sample in Taskebab.

[JackieRos]

Originally Posted by happiholic★

Daft Punk's Aerodynamic is much better than taskebab, in my opinion. Its classic.

You can't compare the two at all.
I mean come on this is one their classic songs.
The interlude doesn't come close.

[SummonerXI]

Originally Posted by Jason

I just feel there's a difference between "sampling" and pretty much taking an idea and making it the very essence of your work.

I know this kind of thing happens all the time and I'm not saying taskebab is bad. I actually find it to be an enjoyable interlude. But the fact the instrumental and arrangement are practically identical bothers me a little bit. But that's just me

If it bothers you, fine, but that doesn't make it plagiarism. What they did in taskebab was take a guitar rift from a song and worked it into a new composition. I don't see how that's plagiarism. If taskebab was an outright copy of Aerodynamic, then yeah, that would be plagiarism. What Ayu did was take a sample and gave it a fresh new sound.

Especially when Daft Punk apparently does the same thing... So if it's not okay for Ayu to do it, it's not okay for Daft Punk to do it either.

Also, Protip: If you play them over each other, they sound different.

[relmy]

^ one puts credits to the samples, there is NOTHING in the booklet for taskebeb giving credit to Daft Punk. Giving credit it a sample, ignoring completely that you sampled someone else's work is plagiarism, regardless of how you use the sample.

Ayu didn't even take the sample, tasuku did. I doubt Ayu heard it until it was finished and she was picking interludes. :S

[Deep snow]

Originally Posted by relmy

^ one puts credits to the samples, there is NOTHING in the booklet for taskebeb giving credit to Daft Punk. Giving credit it a sample, ignoring completely that you sampled someone else's work is plagiarism, regardless of how you use the sample.

Ayu didn't even take the sample, tasuku did. I doubt Ayu heard it until it was finished and she was picking interludes. :S

My thoughts exactly. I was wondering if Daft Punk were credited in the booklet, and now that they weren't, well... not cool, tasuku. Not cool.

And, I, too, think ayu was (is) unaware of the sampling. Shame on tasuku, really

[ll moments ll]

ohhhhh! no wonder i found taskebab "strangely familiar" lol.

well...i just hope all the legal stuff is taken care of. i don't know how sampling & all that music stuff that works, so i hope everything got straightened out. hah.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by relmy

^ one puts credits to the samples, there is NOTHING in the booklet for taskebeb giving credit to Daft Punk. Giving credit it a sample, ignoring completely that you sampled someone else's work is plagiarism, regardless of how you use the sample.

Ayu didn't even take the sample, tasuku did. I doubt Ayu heard it until it was finished and she was picking interludes. :S

Daft Punk has uncredited samples all the time. It's not unheard of, I think.

A lot of tasuku's recent interludes (the last three) in fact, have had elements used in other songs almost exactly which leads me to believe that he's using some kind of studio sample library which is huuuuuuge as opposed to plagiarizing.

[relmy]

^ are you sure? Because based on the small amount of research I've seen, they generally don't, and I've seen a few articles where they criticise people who don't do it through the legal channels. Or, rather than directly sample, they get permission to remake the melody themselves.

Normally, I'd go with the sample library, but considering the evidence here, it is looking a lot like plagiarism.

Why hasn't anybody asked Ayu/staff etc... about this tasuku stuff?

[JackieRos]

sampling another sampling with samples= sampleception

Spoiler:

Thomas Bangalter (Member of Daft Punk) also elaborated in a 2001 interview
that "A lot of house music today just uses samples from disco records of the '70s and
'80s... While we might have some disco influences, we decided to go further and bring in all the elements of music that we liked as children, whether it's disco, electro, heavy
metal, rock, or classical.

Whether sampling is illegal or not it doesn't bother me because alot of songs sample a beat or whatever.
I'm guessing Daft Punk never were accused of copyright infringement because I never seen an article where they were sued or anything.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by SummonerXI

If it bothers you, fine, but that doesn't make it plagiarism. What they did in taskebab was take a guitar rift from a song and worked it into a new composition. I don't see how that's plagiarism. If taskebab was an outright copy of Aerodynamic, then yeah, that would be plagiarism. What Ayu did was take a sample and gave it a fresh new sound.

Especially when Daft Punk apparently does the same thing... So if it's not okay for Ayu to do it, it's not okay for Daft Punk to do it either.

Also, Protip: If you play them over each other, they sound different.

The fact it bothers me isn't the reason I think it's plagiarism

What Daft Punk usually do is just sampling. What tasaku did was compose the exact same melody and arrangement, painted around it with nice guitar riffs and altered it towards the end. I don't think it matters if that particular part of the interlude lasts less then a minute or not; that's still plagiarism, in my opinion.

[C+R+E+AYUMI]

Originally Posted by Jason

When Discovery came out in 2001 it was all I listened to! The anthem album of my early teens

taskebab blatantly plagiarised Aerodynamic, in my opinion. It's not a coincidence. Not by a long shot.

me too, amazing period for music was it! Nostalgia is taking over me

[jewelbox]

For once I thought that tasuku made an interesting interlude but now I know it's plagiarised(or sampled...) LOL. I should have known better

[Tony G]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

You can't compare the two at all.
I mean come on this is one their classic songs.
The interlude doesn't come close.

Really don't think this interlude could replace the Daft Punk song. Whole point of this thread is that the sample was used well, which it was.

[JackieRos]

^nope imo

[emi♡]

I love tasuku...but just because whenever he does this, these threads come around...I wish he'd stop.

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by emi♡

I love tasuku...but just because whenever he does this, these threads come around...I wish he'd stop.

Really? This isn't the first time he's been accused of ripping a song?

[SummonerXI]

Originally Posted by Jason

The fact it bothers me isn't the reason I think it's plagiarism

What Daft Punk usually do is just sampling. What tasaku did was compose the exact same melody and arrangement, painted around it with nice guitar riffs and altered it towards the end. I don't think it matters if that particular part of the interlude lasts less then a minute or not; that's still plagiarism, in my opinion.

But it doesn't really sound the same. Tasuku's version has a different variation. The cords in Tasuku's version sound like they're falling while the cords in Daft Punk's version are climbing. Why the same general idea was used where the guitar rift gradually climbs, the notes and cords are still used in different combinations. That's not plagiarism.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by SummonerXI

But it doesn't really sound the same. Tasuku's version has a different variation. The cords in Tasuku's version sound like they're falling while the cords in Daft Punk's version are climbing. Why the same general idea was used where the guitar rift gradually climbs, the notes and cords are still used in different combinations. That's not plagiarism.

You're definitely a good debater *shakes your hand*

But the way I see your view is like if I just decided to copy a famous painting, change the colour scheme a little and rearrange a few bits of it here and there. I don't know... That's the way I see it, anyway.

I don't mind artists or, in this instance, composers showing us who influenced their work or anything if it's in a more subtle manner. But, to me, Tasaku didn't just show us who influenced him, he just repainted and played with something another artist painted before him.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by happiholic★

Really? This isn't the first time he's been accused of ripping a song?

I think his last two have been as well...I cant remember. Tasking was a big one though.

[Ayubaba]

Originally Posted by Jason

When Discovery came out in 2001 it was all I listened to! The anthem album of my early teens

taskebab blatantly plagiarised Aerodynamic, in my opinion. It's not a coincidence. Not by a long shot.

Um, it's a sample. And it's not even Daft Punk's. Daft Punk sampled it from another song as well. It's just a guitar riff, it's not a big deal.

[mmaibff]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Daft Punk has uncredited samples all the time. It's not unheard of, I think.

A lot of tasuku's recent interludes (the last three) in fact, have had elements used in other songs almost exactly which leads me to believe that he's using some kind of studio sample library which is huuuuuuge as opposed to plagiarizing.

Okay you do know that your comment kind of contradicts itself right? If he was borrowing from a sample library then surely the library must be pretty big, since its a studio sample library right? So if that was the case then what are the chances of him borrowing the same element as another song several times in a roll? After all there should be thousands in the library so if he it happens once, or many twice if he has a lot of songs that don't sound similar to any other. But that isn't the case is it? This issue seem to keep popping up. So forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is getting a little sketchy IMO.

On another note...

Here is the thread comparing taskinst and Don't Tell Me by Hoobastank for anyone who is curious. If anyone bothers to read through all the post, there were a few people that questioned if Hoobastank actually wrote that song or not, and that they are no longer able to find the proof anywhere that of Hoobastank actually wrote the song. The answer is they did compose the song, unless they're lying in their album booklet, because if they copied someone and claimed it as their own then they could be sued for it. If someone needs the actual proof I can take a picture from the booklet if you want. (Too lazy to upload it if no one deems it necessary)

Yes I have their CDs. I actually have to attribute me listening to their music started after finding out that taskinst sounded one of their songs... leading me to discovering their music falling in love with, their sound and lyrics, and buying all the albums. Maybe I'll start listening to Daft Punk now? (yeah I'm not too sure how serious I am about that Daft Punk comment)