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Old 11th September 2004, 01:03 PM
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Mp3 memory sticks aren't cheap at all, you'll have to constantly erase things to add new ones, which prevents you from organising things into different discs you can keep.

About storage, MD's LP4 can store about 5 hours which I find is quite enough.

How much are mp3 players anyway? SONY ones usually aren't much over 200USD and often under, and other brands such as Sharp and Panasonic are generally cheaper.

Energy wise, I could go for a month without recharging even if I listen to it for an hour or two every weekday.

Though I can see why alot of people who don't purchase their music prefer mp3 players though.
Exactly. I use LP2 though when recording, which makes for a bit more than 160 minutes of music on one MD. MDs are quite cheap, so you can buy a whole bunch and use them all, instead of having just one MP3 stick and constantly having to erase and rerecord it. I currently have Fra-Foa, Envy, Mono, Hikki, Shiina and what-not MiniDiscs, and I can listen to them anytime I want. No way that's going to fit on an MP3 stick. Furthermore, I only recharge every two, three weeks. MD is brilliant, really.
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Old 11th September 2004, 05:12 PM
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I just store my music on computer, so i don't really have much use for md like storage systems. I wouldn't want to carry all the stuff with me anyways. small mp3 stick, 10cm long, my preference. I got mine for 50 euros, still working, 1 triple A battery in 1,5 weeks, average 4 hours a day.
I used to use md and discman, i hate the size of it. and the stuff i need to carry. I don't want to have 400 minutes of music with me, i just want to kill time in the bus =), and ill decide what to listen before i leave.

MP3 now even come in 1gb size. Even if you still see advantage in md, it eventually will be overshadowed by mp3

MD is outdated, no doubt
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Old 11th September 2004, 05:13 PM
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i really dunno..
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Old 11th September 2004, 05:19 PM
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mini disc is expensive (last time I check is around 10 CAD) and it is not widely used.... my mp3 player is used only on singles, besides it is multipurpose so you can store virtually any data file in there ..... When the album comes out i either buy or burn and use a cd player to play the song. moreover,a cd disc can be used almost anywhere.... car.... stereo...dvd players..... for me MD is only for techies.
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Old 11th September 2004, 08:22 PM
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I just don't see the point in buying MD players if you can buy mp3 players. they're much smaller, cheaper, more convenient, energyfriendly, than MD players.

I beg to differ. I have a Net MD MZ-N505. I paid only $100 for it brand new, it fits in my pocket and you can't tell that it's in there, a AA battery lasts forever in it, and I can get a pack of 5 MDs for less than $10 and have picked them up for as cheap as 75 cents each. Plus I can fit 5 to 7 full CDs on one disc (ripping in LP4) or 3 or 4 (in LP2). Most mp3 players cost 3 to 5 times as much and the memory cards are cost too much for too little space. The iPod really seems to be the only worthwhile mp3 player out right now. Other hard disk based mp3 players are bulky and suck batteries dry quickly. For now, I'll stick to MD.
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Old 11th September 2004, 11:58 PM
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i think it's mainly because there aren't as many choices for mp3 players in north ameirca ..

in asia there are tons of mp3 players now .. and they're getting cheaper and cheaper .. besides the traditional iPOD .. even JNC has 1 GB (or more) mp3 players now ..

besides .. for most mp3 players you can just hang it around your neck and it's much lighter than MD players ... while CD players can hardly fit in pockets ...
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Old 12th September 2004, 03:31 AM
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I beg to differ. I have a Net MD MZ-N505. I paid only $100 for it brand new, it fits in my pocket and you can't tell that it's in there, a AA battery lasts forever in it, and I can get a pack of 5 MDs for less than $10 and have picked them up for as cheap as 75 cents each. Plus I can fit 5 to 7 full CDs on one disc (ripping in LP4) or 3 or 4 (in LP2). Most mp3 players cost 3 to 5 times as much and the memory cards are cost too much for too little space. The iPod really seems to be the only worthwhile mp3 player out right now. Other hard disk based mp3 players are bulky and suck batteries dry quickly. For now, I'll stick to MD.
you should look better into mp3 players
many are not even close to $100, not anymore

And, however small an md player, it will never reduce to a size of an mp3 player. And what i also don't understand is, why everbody needs massive amounts of space. It's just an machine replicating and transmitting sounds you use in public transport. max i used a day was 4 hours, i don't need 14 albums for that time, 2 is enough.

argh, whatever. it's like political discussions: no outcome
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Old 12th September 2004, 02:22 PM
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I like to be able to choose what I'm listening to, instead of having only a very small selection of stuff with me. I mean, Hikki in the morning, Envy in the afternoon, etcetera. It's just great having all different stuff with you.

And as soon as 20g *affordable* MP3 players arrive, I'm the first one to get one, no shizzle, but for now, ph00k 128 Mb.
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Old 12th September 2004, 05:05 PM
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argh, whatever. it's like political discussions: no outcome
I like to look at it as being more of a personal preference when it comes to deciding which format to listen to.

For me, I use both MD and MP3. I've used MD for a while now and have found it is still superior to MP3 player sound quality. I'm not much of an audiophile but I prefer having CD -> MD recorded sound rather than CD -> MP3 sound. Of course, with good quality comes with its drawbacks, i.e. it's size, cost and so forth. Hence, I use MP3 player as well. It's small, plays music... sufficiently, but most of all is a good memory stick for transferring work from home to school and vice versa. Mine is mostly used as a memory stick, but it plays MP3, which is a bonus .

As for the cost... yes there are cheap MP3 players, but there are expensive MP3 players as well. Look at the superb iRiver series and the "not-so-good-imo" Apple iPods which everyone seems to be after these days o.o;; And if you compare how they perform with MD players, you'll see that MD's are better for sound quality, and MP3 is better for mass storage and size (mostly).

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MD is outdated, no doubt
Hi-MD is on the rise and catching on with MP3 players being able to use the Hi-MD discs as mass storage. MD won't die out, only go stronger. It's how MP3 will try and compete is what I'm interested in.

I will always remain faithful to MD. It has never failed me in what it does and does it best.

Like I said, personal preference. An argument with no end~

(lol, I'm not bashing you Chrono, I just wanted to quote your posts in context of what I wanna write ^^)
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Old 13th September 2004, 10:06 AM
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^ no offence taken, it's what discussions are about. you can quote whatever you think is needed.

I don't think I need that much high-quality sound for my protable music carrier. i mean, the bus noises all over it. and those little headphones are not sufficient to produce high quality soundwaves anyway.

once mp3 player become bigger and bigger, md won't be able to hold up. computerstuff is getting -50% in price very 18 months, that's not happening to other electronics. updating MD will raise cost for purchase, while updating mp3 will also, but to much lesser extend.

next year this time, probably the 3g mp3 player will be available for the price of a 128mb stick now, and this trend will continue. technology for highQ highStorage md is very expensive, but an mp3 stick just has to extend it's memory bank.
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Old 13th September 2004, 10:26 AM
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Ive always tought the MD was intresting, I remember way back when, i first saw it out, i was sooo into it just the looks, the way teh Cd looks, everything. I still do tho. I also look at how many CD players (despite them being condidered a bit outdated as well) I see how theyve changed as well, from functionality, to convenience adding (controllers etc) to size. I remember when Sony Discman came out, great CD player, and now i look at for example that Panasonic, just thinsg are gettin intresting lol.

I dunno why I never acught up with teh MP3 Player Craze mostly cuz liek Chrono said, I dont need that much space, Ill never use 40 gigs of music, sure its nice just in case and its nice if you have a mega collection of music, but I dunno. I dont mind burning an MP3 CD, 150 songs or what not is nice.

I dunno even tho its outdated and all, I think MD's are cool, CD Players are cool, too. Like stated yeah its all a matter of taste and what your looking for. so.. carry on lol
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Old 13th September 2004, 10:33 AM
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hey i just message the seller of Panasonic SJ-MJ57 ,
they say, that this MD will not allow me to record from either PC or MIxER
because it has no recording compatibility built in it.
they say i have to buy a MD Recorder ?
is this true ?
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Old 13th September 2004, 10:51 AM
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hey i just message the seller of Panasonic SJ-MJ57 ,
they say, that this MD will not allow me to record from either PC or MIxER
because it has no recording compatibility built in it.
they say i have to buy a MD Recorder ?
is this true ?
honestly i dont trust alotta stuff Panasonic Customer Service Says , im not saying they're wrong but theyve been wrong like 3 times for me..

I called them asking if a pair of Japanese headphones would work on Cd players here and they said no.. but i got it anyways, worked flawlessly

then i asked if i orered a japaese cdplayer would it be any diff.. they said it wouldnt function right.. lies.. it functioned perfect

and teh third time was somethin related to the Tv lol, not important XD
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Perhaps because it's a player. MD Players have no recording function, and because of that they are slimmer and lighter (like the one I own).

If you don't have other means of recording, don't bother thinking about getting that model then. There are two basic types of MD Portable players (excluding Net MDs here), non-recordable and recordable ones. It sounds like you need the latter.

If you ask then why make the non-recordable ones? Well, people might have a MD/CD Hi-Fi to record, or they just want a new player and they already have an old one that can record.
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Old 13th September 2004, 03:01 PM
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but i like the model it looks cool when they have the Speaker.
wat do i need to buy in order to record ?
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Old 13th September 2004, 05:59 PM
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Perhaps because it's a player. MD Players have no recording function, and because of that they are slimmer and lighter (like the one I own).

If you don't have other means of recording, don't bother thinking about getting that model then. There are two basic types of MD Portable players (excluding Net MDs here), non-recordable and recordable ones. It sounds like you need the latter.

If you ask then why make the non-recordable ones? Well, people might have a MD/CD Hi-Fi to record, or they just want a new player and they already have an old one that can record.
That's right. The MJ57 is a player only even though the speaker technology that comes with it is awesome sounding in my opinion, plus it looks so cool ^^.

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but i like the model it looks cool when they have the Speaker.
wat do i need to buy in order to record ?
You would either need an MD Recorder/Player or get a Hifi with MD recorder function. That way you record music on the hifi from CD and then just use the newly recorded MDs on the player
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Old 13th September 2004, 07:33 PM
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If you ask then why make the non-recordable ones? Well, people might have a MD/CD Hi-Fi to record, or they just want a new player and they already have an old one that can record.
true... i use a md/cd recorder in my hifi set which allows me to record digital from cd to md or backwards (even with the cd or md text which is very easy imo hehe)... but i hardly use it at home, i just use it for example when im in a plane with my portably player (which is already very old btw, shd buy a new one haha) or when im in my car where i dun even hv a cd player but only md =)

it has lots of advantages this way, i can re-use md's which i cannot with cd's (i cud with mp3, i know ) and i dun hv to worry about skipping cd's or anything, md wont skip... or at least not that fast thats why i really will stick with md before going to try mp3 or anything (tho i do hv a portable mp3 player but i hardly use it lol, like sxesven also stated, 128mb or 256mb is just too little in order to use it properly)
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shd b correct now
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