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Old 9th November 2004, 10:17 PM
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This is exactly the point of the article about Alan and Ayu. Anytime anybody says anything negative about Ayu, her fans got nuts and start cussing right away. Face it, Alan is not the only one to realize that Ayu sang off tune that night. Though it is very ill-mannered of him to point that out in public, you can't say that anything bad about Ayu is not true and all those are a result of jealousy towards Ayu. Alan should be used to the trend in popular music these days. The young and beautiful get their way, and he's totally out of the league. So how did this turn into the conclusion that Chinese people are rude or that Alan is jealous of Ayu?

All just bashing... who knows how many million people out there disapprove of Ayu. Are you going to cuss them all? Geez...
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Old 9th November 2004, 10:32 PM
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So how did this turn into the conclusion that Chinese people are rude or that Alan is jealous of Ayu?

All just bashing... who knows how many million people out there disapprove of Ayu. Are you going to cuss them all? Geez...[/QUOTE]

no..i am not going to cuss them all but first of all i will cuzz u..
if u don't like ayu..then get lost..did ANYBODY here said that ALL CHINESE PEOPLE ARE RUDE?? could u just check the posts?? NO ONE EVER SAID THAT ALL CHINESE ARE RUDE..but someone did said that ALAN IS RUDE
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Old 9th November 2004, 10:32 PM
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This is exactly the point of the article about Alan and Ayu. Anytime anybody says anything negative about Ayu, her fans got nuts and start cussing right away. Face it, Alan is not the only one to realize that Ayu sang off tune that night. Though it is very ill-mannered of him to point that out in public, you can't say that anything bad about Ayu is not true and all those are a result of jealousy towards Ayu. Alan should be used to the trend in popular music these days. The young and beautiful get their way, and he's totally out of the league. So how did this turn into the conclusion that Chinese people are rude or that Alan is jealous of Ayu?

All just bashing... who knows how many million people out there disapprove of Ayu. Are you going to cuss them all? Geez...
"All just bashing"

aren't you yourself bashing us all?? haha~ funny
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Old 10th November 2004, 12:09 AM
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This is exactly the point of the article about Alan and Ayu. Anytime anybody says anything negative about Ayu, her fans got nuts and start cussing right away. Face it, Alan is not the only one to realize that Ayu sang off tune that night. Though it is very ill-mannered of him to point that out in public, you can't say that anything bad about Ayu is not true and all those are a result of jealousy towards Ayu. Alan should be used to the trend in popular music these days. The young and beautiful get their way, and he's totally out of the league. So how did this turn into the conclusion that Chinese people are rude or that Alan is jealous of Ayu?

All just bashing... who knows how many million people out there disapprove of Ayu. Are you going to cuss them all? Geez...
when did anyone said all chinese people were rude???
go back and read..

but if you said that cause of this
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this can also be the main reason why she hasnt been to china again.. cause of the rude people
when did i said that all chinese people are rude?...or is it alan everyone in china?

all i can say... if this alan guy has enough time to worry about ayumi hamasaki singing skills and go around bi**** how bad her singing skills are ..why doesnt he become her teacher (sorri for the word)

he should worry about himself b4 worrying about others...
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Old 10th November 2004, 12:16 AM
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i would like to ask a question... cause i my self dont know the awser...

has ayu ever gone to any newspaper to put down any other singer??
alan or jolin?? or even said anything rude about them ?
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Old 10th November 2004, 08:19 AM
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i would like to ask a question... cause i my self dont know the awser...

has ayu ever gone to any newspaper to put down any other singer??
alan or jolin?? or even said anything rude about them ?
No. (soundly no)

And it's the NOT singing skill criticsm that bother me. It iss his suspect attitude (went all out to stir things up to make a name for himself) and rudeness (he went on to be quite personal in his critism) that makes me to give a hard kick.

Yes. I don't remeber you said any of "those things" neither.
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Old 10th November 2004, 11:06 AM
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wow alan tam bashing thread!! i like that
i hate alan tam. he cant even sing
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Old 11th November 2004, 12:38 AM
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this can also be the main reason why she hasnt been to china again.. cause of the rude people
What I comprehended from this is the "rude people" in China... I'm sorry if you meant it for Alan only, but Alan is not "people".

So now this goes down to that I'm not a fan of Ayu. Why would I be here then? I'm not a radical fan of Ayu, I don't cuss out anyone who is less than a fan of Ayu. True, Alan has no integrity, but not everything is his fault. Lolo66 mentioned that Ayu said something like "Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime". It's not anyone else's duty to learn Japanese. A non-Japanese speaking person will surely be offended at that. How will you react to someone who doesn't know it's ordinary Japanese? If Alan didn't know that wasn't supposed to be an insult, don't you think he has the right to be angry?

Anyways... sure... if this is how people look on things then I'll back out.
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Old 11th November 2004, 01:57 AM
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What I comprehended from this is the "rude people" in China... I'm sorry if you meant it for Alan only, but Alan is not "people".

So now this goes down to that I'm not a fan of Ayu. Why would I be here then? I'm not a radical fan of Ayu, I don't cuss out anyone who is less than a fan of Ayu. True, Alan has no integrity, but not everything is his fault. Lolo66 mentioned that Ayu said something like "Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime". It's not anyone else's duty to learn Japanese. A non-Japanese speaking person will surely be offended at that. How will you react to someone who doesn't know it's ordinary Japanese? If Alan didn't know that wasn't supposed to be an insult, don't you think he has the right to be angry?

Anyways... sure... if this is how people look on things then I'll back out.

I think you misunderstood what Lolo66 said. He said "
And Ayumi came in, just happen to say something that Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime, ordinary Japanese."

which from my understanding of english, it means that Ayumi was talking in japanese, a language Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime( which we don't know cus he might know some japanese). Lolo is not trying to say that AYU said "Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime". And besides, when was the last time we heard of Ayu bashing another artist? like never?
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Old 11th November 2004, 02:45 AM
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sigh...where has the grammar gone!?
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Old 11th November 2004, 05:21 AM
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What I comprehended from this is the "rude people" in China... I'm sorry if you meant it for Alan only, but Alan is not "people".
(rude people) can also just be alan.. cause no one else other than alan was rude...... why would i say all people in china are rude ?when alan the only person we are talking about.. and the only peson who the news paper interview....? or did the newspaper went out to the public for opinions on that event? i'm sorry if you got me all wrong ^_^
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Old 11th November 2004, 06:51 AM
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What I comprehended from this is the "rude people" in China... I'm sorry if you meant it for Alan only, but Alan is not "people".

So now this goes down to that I'm not a fan of Ayu. Why would I be here then? I'm not a radical fan of Ayu, I don't cuss out anyone who is less than a fan of Ayu. True, Alan has no integrity, but not everything is his fault. Lolo66 mentioned that Ayu said something like "Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime". It's not anyone else's duty to learn Japanese. A non-Japanese speaking person will surely be offended at that. How will you react to someone who doesn't know it's ordinary Japanese? If Alan didn't know that wasn't supposed to be an insult, don't you think he has the right to be angry?

Anyways... sure... if this is how people look on things then I'll back out.
No sir, you should never be angry/scare at something/someone that you don't understand. We call this prejudice. Thank you.

Alan have every right to care nothing for the Japanese language or care for anything related to Japan. But publicly putting down something that he still doesn't realy know what had happened, is well, plain idiotic. (I mean what Ayu said could be just Ayu asking her assistant "hey; where' bathroom in this dressing room?" hehe)
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Old 11th November 2004, 06:52 AM
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Old 11th November 2004, 06:54 AM
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I think you misunderstood what Lolo66 said. He said "
And Ayumi came in, just happen to say something that Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime, ordinary Japanese."

which from my understanding of english, it means that Ayumi was talking in japanese, a language Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime( which we don't know cus he might know some japanese). Lolo is not trying to say that AYU said "Alan will never have the brain cells to understand in his lifetime". And besides, when was the last time we heard of Ayu bashing another artist? like never?
Thanks for helping to clear up my points.

and yes, never, unless you believe those rumors.
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Old 11th November 2004, 11:29 PM
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just one comment .. ALAN is not really a top singer in HK lol .. mayb ages ago but he's kinda really fading behind da spotlight
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Old 12th November 2004, 05:36 AM
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*gasp-age* ayu would never do that!!! NEVER ya hear me?!!
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Old 12th November 2004, 05:48 AM
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OK...I read this thread, and it makes no sense... o_0
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Old 12th November 2004, 10:12 AM
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ok...ive read all the posts in this thread and i dont know who's right or who's wrong but i know that this thread makes me hate alan tam for some reason eventhough i dunno much about him...
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Old 12th November 2004, 10:38 AM
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i got this off the NH newspaper from ayunite ( embarassment for Japan )

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They said that ayumi's voice is getting worse and may cause embarassment like the performance at the China-Japan Anniversary concert in Beijing two years ago.
from my point of view the chinese newspaper just wanted to fire up... the tension with what happen back then when alan went b*** like a lil girl to the chinese news papers and made up all this how the japanese fans think&said ayu is a embarassment for Japan ... i'm still like...Why didnt the japanese newspapers publish this... and how the HK always get news ... that always turns out to be lies.(rumors)

here the link to the thread at ayunite
http://ayumi-sg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16047 can find translation in english there to what the HK newspaper said
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Old 12th November 2004, 10:46 AM
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i'm on ayu side no matter it is, that's why i join ayu forums..

although i read on the mags, that alan is the one who said ayu cant sing and her voice didnt harmonize with her band..

but like hell i care.. XP

i also dont believe the rumor that ayu bashing namie, coco, and other..
geez.. like she has time to do it..
she's too goddamn busy to bashing other artists.. :lmao
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