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Old 15th December 2004, 09:48 AM
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This one is VERY difficult to dissect. =/ I think we hit most of the main points but how the blue candy...or the blueness...or the scarecrow...> <; I don't understand...

It was a nice PV though. =D The nature...the effects...the singing...NICE! But that robot guy...ai...> >;; I found myself kept staring at what the heck he was doing! It was FUNNy. XDD
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Old 15th December 2004, 11:21 AM
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the uhh XD "tattoed diamonds" reminded me of "Toxic" i was going to open a threath but some ppl already know what's behind the sheet...



Scary yet awsome,intresting...love it xD
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Old 15th December 2004, 11:41 AM
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I liked the PV. I felt it was different in a good way from the PVs we've had since Moments. It may not have been that complicated but it looked like more time had been spent on it than on some of the recent PVs. Black-haired Ayu in the white room/framed photo was beautiful, the pink flower dress and the blue butterflies too. The man with the strange moves was distracting though, I wish he'd just sat there like the old man.
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Old 15th December 2004, 12:26 PM
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This PV really made me think. Cause back in the summer I had a dream about aliens and Ayu. Ayu was lieing on a table and they were glueing those glittery things on her. Ayu was one of them. Their princess or something.

And when I saw the same thing in the PV, I got a weird feeling. Not that I'm saying that Ayu is an alien or something. But the blue robotic people...
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Old 15th December 2004, 04:36 PM
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Am I the only one who think its clear? I don't like this PV, it's sad. :/ I think the meaning is.. people are using so much electronics, don't you think so? Everything in this PV is electric. That nature is visible after pushing button. So this PV is picture of eletronical people trying to be natural, as they were before. Hm?

And at the end of that tunnel (in core of world) is the last full human - Ayumi with black hair.

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Old 15th December 2004, 10:30 PM
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Am I the only one who think its clear? I don't like this PV, it's sad. :/ I think the meaning is.. people are using so much electronics, don't you think so? Everything in this PV is electric. That nature is visible after pushing button. So this PV is picture of eletronical people trying to be natural, as they were before. Hm?

And at the end of that tunnel (in core of world) is the last full human - Ayumi with black hair.

that's the best description ever!!! you are so right!..so right!!!

but someone said she is being made.. to be a robot right? that's why she's on the table... I like your description of the PV
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Old 16th December 2004, 03:00 PM
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that's the best description ever!!! you are so right!..so right!!!

but someone said she is being made.. to be a robot right? that's why she's on the table... I like your description of the PV
Mm.. I dont think that table has some special reason. Just the last human Ayumi, someone sacred for others in scenery.

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Old 17th December 2004, 09:09 AM
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Was this song used for one of the Panasonic camera commerical? Can't remember.

I thought the entire PV felt like it could be a commercial for a camera. The vibrant background colour used on the scene, the sparkles on her body, the picture frames showing clips of her, the one shot of the camera fliming Ayu on the table...all they have to do is put in some advertising slogan and it would look like a perfectly valid camera commerical! Maybe it's inspired by the panasonic lumix camera
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Old 17th December 2004, 09:50 AM
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Was this song used for one of the Panasonic camera commerical? Can't remember.

I thought the entire PV felt like it could be a commercial for a camera. The vibrant background colour used on the scene, the sparkles on her body, the picture frames showing clips of her, the one shot of the camera fliming Ayu on the table...all they have to do is put in some advertising slogan and it would look like a perfectly valid camera commerical! Maybe it's inspired by the panasonic lumix camera
nope this song wasnt used for a Panasonic camera, it was used for a Panasonic MD (MJ59)
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Old 16th December 2004, 07:25 AM
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Am I the only one who think its clear? I don't like this PV, it's sad. :/ I think the meaning is.. people are using so much electronics, don't you think so? Everything in this PV is electric. That nature is visible after pushing button. So this PV is picture of eletronical people trying to be natural, as they were before. Hm?

And at the end of that tunnel (in core of world) is the last full human - Ayumi with black hair.
Whoa. I read your post and then watched the PV again, and it completely changed my perspective of it! Everything is fake, even the sky. But I think that the Ayumi on the table w. the black hair is the robot, and the Ayumi that's singing is the human (at the end, the big belt out part, black haired Ayumi's face is rather passive, while blonde haired Ayumi is full of emotion).

I was reading a translation, and the PV goes with the first verse:
My lips created a lie,
for some trivial reason...
for no one, just my foolish self...
I think it was to protect.
When I realized, from the countless lies,
I was surrounded and couldn't move,
I was unable to do a thing.
The whole world is a lie that surrounds blonde Ayumi, and maybe the robot at the end is her trapped in the lies.

I like this PV

However, I think the ending would have been a little more meaningful and a little less "what the...?" if they had shown the cloaked figure at other points in the video, instead of waiting till the end to break out this random cloaked person.
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Old 18th December 2004, 02:48 AM
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But I think that the Ayumi on the table w. the black hair is the robot, and the Ayumi that's singing is the human (at the end, the big belt out part, black haired Ayumi's face is rather passive, while blonde haired Ayumi is full of emotion).
Good eye! I hadn't noticed that, but I just played it back again and you're right.

Adding to that, the black haired Ayu seems to have a sort of smug expression...to me it practically looks like she's smirking as she's singing into the camera. That makes me think she's the robot too...in "prototype" stage, perhaps, before they fully model her after the real Ayu? (Hair and such.)

Maybe the robot one is in a way overconfident that electronic is better, since the video shows that electronic is basically taking over...and that's why she seems so passive.

I'm probably all off though. I didn't catch any of this when I first viewed the PV, only after reading this thread. This one had me quite confused.
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Old 16th December 2004, 10:47 AM
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Am I the only one who think its clear? I don't like this PV, it's sad. :/ I think the meaning is.. people are using so much electronics, don't you think so? Everything in this PV is electric. That nature is visible after pushing button. So this PV is picture of eletronical people trying to be natural, as they were before. Hm?

And at the end of that tunnel (in core of world) is the last full human - Ayumi with black hair.
thats very interesting, i havent seen the pv yet so i'll take notice of that
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Old 15th December 2004, 04:43 PM
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worst ayumi pv ever !!!
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Old 15th December 2004, 05:01 PM
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Something to do with her wax figure?
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Old 15th December 2004, 05:02 PM
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I thought the PV killed a bit of the feeling of the song. While I consider it a good PV overall, it doesn't add much to the mood of the song (specially those loud sound effects, they just break the climax imo).
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Old 15th December 2004, 05:21 PM
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Then why is Ayu promoting Panasonic?


I think that little boy should take advice from the two robots ... be silent. Even introducing "Walking Proud" he sounds annoying.

I don't know what to think of this PV.
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Old 15th December 2004, 05:28 PM
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the pv's cool..i liked it..
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Old 15th December 2004, 06:44 PM
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i think this pv is badly done, first, the camera cutting is bad~ very confusing, it cuts too fast! they seems to have a lot of elements in it but they dun seems to show enough of it. The colours is nice, the setting is nice, the idea (haven figure out yet), but they could have done better about it. A nice song but a badly done PV, could have been better. I love ayu in the black hair though XD

oh ya, the last part where she reveals the clooth, is she trying to send a message about the wax figure of her in hongkong?? if it is, isnt it a bit 'cheapskate'??? T__T
why did ayu do this........T_T
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Old 16th December 2004, 12:53 AM
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i actually like the pv...it looked so purdy~
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Old 16th December 2004, 01:06 AM
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I love the effects. Ayu looks pretty with the pink dress and with short-black hair. It'a confusing but it is a great PV. I don't know the meaning of the PV neither what's under the sheet. But i like this PV. Although, the Panasonic CM looked better. Overall, 8/10.
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