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Old 9th November 2005, 07:53 PM
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i wonder why are fans making so much complaints... we should support Ayu in every way we can!!! We should accept her new songs instead of grumbling about the genre because thats a fact that we can't change.. can we ask Avex not to include that track in the new album? we can't, don't we?
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Old 9th November 2005, 08:26 PM
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I don't like how "fans" are supposed to love everything and worship Ayu (or whatever it is they're a fan of). I don't think "satisfied" is the right word to use here; it makes it sound like Ayu is our music slave who has to please us.
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Old 9th November 2005, 08:38 PM
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I think some fans are too dramatic, both sides. Either way I don't really care. I still enjoy every single release of Ayu even if some are not up to my taste. Nonetheless I am still going to be happy with her latest single and honestly I am happy to see a new genre. That way fans won't go on how it like like that song she sang before or the other.
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Old 9th November 2005, 08:53 PM
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I'm not happy with her current music choices. I think they're bad and I feel cheated by someone I really enjoyed listening to. Her quality in music has taken a sudden halt and is on its way downhill.

I feel that Bold & Delicious is her worst song, as well as PRIDE's vocals are painful to sit through (even on a 30sec preview). This single has a feel of emptiness. Nothing grasps my attention with it like previous singles.

I think that she's taking a step in the wrong direction. There is a slight hip-hop sound to the first song. Something that Ayumi Hamasaki's sqeaky pop voice can't deliver. I feel that sometimes artists should find the genre that works for them and stick with it. People can look at you going all over into many different genres as "not knowing what their doing" or "confused as to what type of music suits them".

I feel like Ayumi Hamasaki has actually become a little careless with her career as of lately. She's become generic. She wants to be shown as a singer/songwriter yet she continues to do things with not much depth.

Her age is starting to show but it's almost as if she's going back in time with her musical selection and singing something someone really young would sing. She's not 19 anymore. I figured she would start releasing things that show growth not emptiness.
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:10 PM
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i don't know .. I really love a lot of her singles this year .. my fav is still STEP you/is this LOVE? .. the PV are amazing for those songs ...
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:11 PM
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I think people are being way too dramatic about this whole deal. it's a one single , we don't know if this is just going to be this one expirement with different type of music rather than her changing her whole artistic direction. I think Bold & Delecious sounds horrible but I'm hoping her next single after B&D will be better.

I think Ayu has been making good music this year too , eventho I'm not too crazy about 'STEP you' either but the I liked 'Is This Love?' (I loved it's PV too). I wasn't all that impressed with 'Fairyland' but I liked 'Alterna'. I think both 'HEAVEN' & 'Will' were really good too. with all these hits I can forgive one miss , 'B&D' and 'Pride'
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:18 PM
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I feel like Ayumi Hamasaki has actually become a little careless with her career as of lately. She's become generic. She wants to be shown as a singer/songwriter yet she continues to do things with not much depth.
I think she's still really original. I mean , the most 'generic' thing to do would have been making a yet another pop song with rock elements produced by Bounceback & arranged by H/\L. instead of that she tried something really weird with the choir and all on B&D , very 'bold' decision
I think it's really cool that instead of playing it safe she takes risks like this, we'll see whether the japanese audience will love it or hate it
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:43 PM
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i wonder why are fans making so much complaints... we should support Ayu in every way we can!!! We should accept her new songs instead of grumbling about the genre because thats a fact that we can't change.. can we ask Avex not to include that track in the new album? we can't, don't we?
I don't think to be a fan, you have to blindly support everything she releases. People are allowed to not like a song here or there. It's just the few people on this board that seem to hate everything that kind of ruin it.

I don't love B&D, but I don't absolutely hate it either. So far though, it is probably my least favorite Ayu single ever.
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:48 PM
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I think she's still really original. I mean , the most 'generic' thing to do would have been making a yet another pop song with rock elements produced by Bounceback & arranged by H/\L. instead of that she tried something really weird with the choir and all on B&D , very 'bold' decision
I think it's really cool that instead of playing it safe she takes risks like this, we'll see whether the japanese audience will love it or hate it
I agree with how you view it. I like your idea on the fact that being generic could be going back to Bounceback or H/\L.

I personally dislike it and people blow views way out of the water.

lol like my wench comment. I call all people a wench. Too many people are overly sensitive.
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Old 9th November 2005, 11:58 PM
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I don't think it's fair to the fans to be like, "Well, you love it too much or you hate it too much" blah blah blah. I tend not to post in such threads because, really, I don't care about anyone else's opinion other than my own, LOL. And it doesn't bother me until people get aggressive/defensive, you know?

I think most of us are in the grey area, we'll give every single a chance but it doesn't mean you have to like it just because it is an Ayumi product. I guess it's overreacting to think that fans just aren't satisfied. But it's definitely an observation that many people share, so you aren't alone in thinking people are unsatisfied.
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Old 10th November 2005, 12:15 AM
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I don't think it's fair to the fans to be like, "Well, you love it too much or you hate it too much" blah blah blah. I tend not to post in such threads because, really, I don't care about anyone else's opinion other than my own, LOL. And it doesn't bother me until people get aggressive/defensive, you know?
Exactly. I agree. Seriously, I don't really care if some fans hate it to death or love every single thing Ayu does. If her new material is nice and i'm liking it, that's great. A fan that absolutely hate the song won't change my opinion about it.

Some fans can be quite dramatic.
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Old 10th November 2005, 12:22 AM
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Exactly. I agree. Seriously, I don't really care if some fans hate it to death or love every single thing Ayu does. If her new material is nice and i'm liking it, that's great. A fan that absolutely hate the song won't change my opinion about it.

Some fans can be quite dramatic.
Exactly. Fact that I hate it and say it shouldn't cause me to be pointed out as a bad guy.
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Old 10th November 2005, 12:26 AM
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what about the neutral people who dont look into all the mumbo jumbo and like what they like and dislike what they dislike?


I dislike songs because I dislike them. I like songs because I like them. It doesn't matter if they were made in 2005 or 205. I give songs a chance, I do it with all my music, but there's nothing that'll make me like a song that I don't think is good.

//hikari - I pretty much agree with everything you've said.
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Old 10th November 2005, 12:27 AM
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Exactly. Fact that I hate it and say it shouldn't cause me to be pointed out as a bad guy.
Yeah, I mean hey, everybody has their own taste in music. You can't possibly expect every damn fans to love every song Ayu does... You hate it. I love it. And that's absolutely normal.
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Old 10th November 2005, 01:13 AM
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She is changing and people don't like it? I don't know, I don't think she'll ever be as good as she was when I Am... came out...after going up you have to come down?
I think this album will come close to rivaling the power of her I am... album. The singles seem like such powerful songs and the album, unless she produces poor album tracks, will be unbelievable.
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Old 10th November 2005, 01:14 AM
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Exactly. I agree. Seriously, I don't really care if some fans hate it to death or love every single thing Ayu does. If her new material is nice and i'm liking it, that's great. A fan that absolutely hate the song won't change my opinion about it.

Some fans can be quite dramatic.
I totally agree. I must add, however, that her songs, good or bad, have a tendency to grow on me...XD
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Old 10th November 2005, 01:27 AM
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If Ayu were to release one of her old songs nowadays, I'd love it that much more because it'd be compared with today's crap.

I'm not being dramatic, I'm being me. I'm always like this.
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Old 10th November 2005, 01:46 AM
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Personally, I think that this is a better year than last year, although I still listen to MY STORY more than any of her other albums. STEP you is my favorite song of 2005. I think Ayu's doing pretty damn good.

I admire that she takes risks with her music, even though other people may call it carelessness. It's something I expect out of her, and frankly, I would disappointed if she didn't take on a new genre every once in a while. Do I want a whole album of songs by her like B&D? No, not really, but one song can be fun. I'm still waiting for more of Pride, though.

All I can say is that I'm really looking forward to her new album, whatever it's going to be called. And like somebody else said, unless she just makes really crummy album tracks, then I'll probably be "satisfied" with this whole year.
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Old 10th November 2005, 02:07 AM
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i enjoy her recent releases. they've been far better than last year and i'm glad she's trying new genres to experiment with.

i know there are people who don't like them, but it's all a matter of opinion.
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Old 10th November 2005, 02:09 AM
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I agree with you with regards to your points, Calico. Last year was not really so experimental though I must say it was probably the time where she was having most fun, most of all since she speaks about how she released what she felt like releasing. Last year was still good nonetheless. I just feel that this year was more experimental.

Sometimes I do admit that I miss her old style in her old albums but I suppose artists do indeed change after all. I was really happy how she released HEAVEN which gave me this feeling of a new version of Dearest. And she had quite a lot of powerful tracks nevertheless. is this LOVE? and Alterna were simply excellent tracks. Unless she does release some crappy album with a lot of tracks stuffed together just to release an album, I won't be satisfied. Otherwise I must say that this year wasn't really that bad.
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