1 LOVE a-nation07 & AT07 - Page 2

[taskin.ayu] · #21 30th March 2008, 07:00 AM

I think the chorus is different, but the verses are the same. I played both tracks together. XD
(but that could be because of different live backup vocals from Peco and Princess)

Who knows really? It doesn't really matter since a lot of artists do it. XD It could be TRUELY lipsynced, or was edited onto the DVD. Whooo knows?

Melrose · #22 30th March 2008, 04:39 PM

No, definitely the same. Including the chorus. The sighs and breaths and hic-ups are all at the exact same spot. Like when she sings something like "ni hi" and has a little UNGH after ni (hard to explain) it sounds exactly the same in both songs.

I'm thinking it was lip synched lol but I don't care as long as she doesn't do it with ballads..

[taskin.ayu] · #23 31st March 2008, 10:39 PM

Well at least I'm 100% sure the last lines of until that day... were definitely lipsynced. XD (sounds like the CD version)

It's funny that we find that quite a few bits have been lipsynced when earlier we attacked Eason Chen (?) for saying Ayu lipsynced. XDD

Melrose · #24 1st April 2008, 11:50 AM

until that Day... from CDL06-07 wasn't lipsynched and didn't sound too good, considering it's a dancy song with lots of choreography, so it doesn't really surprise me. o-o

JinHamasaki · #25 1st April 2008, 12:37 PM

Erm not the same, the a-nation one is a little more muffled (remember, they had a big mic problem for the 2nd half??)

Plus I was at AT2007, and it was NOT lip synced! But her vocals are definitely a little more "enhanced" compared to the live, but seriously, being in the crowd + not 100% perfect acoustics will make any singer imperfect.

KuroixShiroi_Namida · #26 1st April 2008, 01:03 PM

Yeah i don't think it's lip synched but more enhanced afterwards lol.

freedreamer · #27 1st April 2008, 01:18 PM

i dun understand why people say its lipsynched..when there are actually fans here who said it ISNT!..

its prolly just editted into the DVD...
and i said it once and aagain....

AT07 TOOK PLACE BEFORE A-NATION 07...AYU CANT LIPSYNCH SOMETHING AFTERRRR!!

Melrose · #28 1st April 2008, 05:36 PM

^

Um.. What? That doesn't make any sense. She can lip synch AT07 and then use the same tape for A-Nation 07 lol no problem with that.

@JinHamasaki: Well okay if you say that it wasn't lipsynched. ^^ But it IS the same.. At least Ayu's voice tape. The rest (instruments, Peco, Princess, etc.) ARE probably live (what was done at the actual tour live, and not a recording afterwards/before) so of course it sounds different. But Ayu's vocal track is the same (for the DVDs).

Not~Yet · #29 1st April 2008, 06:28 PM

^ oh and to add that, it was the last concert (right?) on the DVD so she could have sung everything live including 1LOVE at earlier concerts but helped herself to stay in tune for the rest of the songs at the final concert. (so if you, JinHamasaki were at the final concert I would think they just have changed the vocals a bit for the DVD but if you weren't can you be sure?)

And I thought it's just weird to have every breath and "ungh" sound excactly similiar too..

Ayumi_lover · #30 1st April 2008, 06:34 PM

if you would see again videos from mobile from AT07 shows you will hear that ayu sings in different ways. She just sung perfect at last show and A-Nation. Until that day wasn't also lypsynched, because at video(mobile) sometimes we can't hear Ayu's voice because of her breath and loud music. It was just edited in dvd.
And also we had reports from people that been at A-nation, who said that ayu had some problems with sound, so it was live 100%!

freedreamer · #31 2nd April 2008, 03:30 PM

I dunno why people just refuse to give her the benefit of the doubt....
yea so to satisfy them...
YES AYU LIPSYNCHed...

Ayumi_lover · #32 2nd April 2008, 03:45 PM

^ NO SHE DOESN'T!
Just because of image of avex trax. If it would be known that she lypsynched without marking it on advertising Avex Trax will have serious problems, also we read chinese newspaper which saying that during AT07 Ayu sounded out of tune at some songs and forgot words of 2 songs during one of the shows!! Of course it wasn't positive article but it prove that AYU DIDN'T LYPSYNCH

Melrose · #33 2nd April 2008, 04:06 PM

^

I'm not saying she lipsynched, I'm just saying that the two vocal tracks on AN07 and AT07 are exactly the same.

freedreamer · #34 2nd April 2008, 04:12 PM

(of course i would support the stand that she DIDNT lipsynch..not that i heard it...i won't believe it unless someone can prove it and they were there live....im just saying that, those that insists she lipsynched..just believe in your own stand)

Ayumi_lover · #35 2nd April 2008, 06:03 PM

maybe the versions you saw are similar because they are edited, but please remember about reports about Ayu's sound problems during A-Nation. It means she didn't lypsunch.
Also during AT07 i suppose in HK some singer accused her in lypsynching, when Ayu heard about it she began to cry and drunk, and asked to comment firm that provided Ayu's concert. She said that she was in very good form and sang all live, she was very upset. Also many others HK stars was at this concert but thay didn't notice anything. At least that singer said his sorry to Ayu, he made all this to appead in headlines of newspapers to promote his new album. That's all. There wasn't any lypsynch at AT07.(Search news section for this incident, because i won't)
So all this rumors are really annoying as for me! And choruses are not similar! So...

Melrose · #36 2nd April 2008, 06:21 PM

^

Was that at me? 'Cause I didn't say she lip synched.. Just that the two vocal tracks on the -DVDs- are exactly the same. Nice story though.

Ayumi_lover · #37 3rd April 2008, 03:37 AM

^Countdown concerts were broadcasted in real-time so it's 100% live
A-Nation concert wasn't broadcasted in real time, so even TV version is edited. Maybe because of that sound problems they took track from AT07?

Kikaru · #38 3rd April 2008, 04:14 PM

Or she could have recorded something and kept it as a backtrack (tons of other artist does that) and when her voice gets weak all we hear is backtrack.

Or avex edit something and it's hard to know.

But there were people who were there live.

Is it me or did I find it kind of ironic that we all say how bad her voice is but when she gives a good, or decent performance we all speculate about her lip-syncing?

Not~Yet · #39 3rd April 2008, 04:41 PM

^-Just don't hate me now but I don't find those 1LOVE perfomances very vocally good.

They were fine though, but... yeah. I think Ayu sings live like 98% of time and I don't usually think that she lipsyncs, but I just thought those perfomances so similiar so I thought that maybe she did, just this one time? o__o But just so that I don't seem like I hate Ayu or something, I just LOVED i.e. Secret, evolution and glitter AT07 perfomances vocally (and also that kiss o' kill intro) and many others too and believe that the concert was completely (with the POSSIBLE excpection of 1LOVE) sung live.

Quote:

I dunno why people just refuse to give her the benefit of the doubt....
yea so to satisfy them...
YES AYU LIPSYNCHed...

Don't take this too seriously... it's just random chatting. Just expressing our opinions.

Kikaru · #40 3rd April 2008, 05:03 PM

^I'm not really aiming at you, just it seems to be an observation in general. 1 Love wasn't bad for me, but it wasn't out of the ordinary. Kind of like Step you, which I can never say about that performance because she had a pretty consistent performance for that song.

I'm not making sense

I guess whether it was live or not is only one of those things where people who went there live can tell us, rather than speculate through the TV-edited ones.