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Old 24th January 2009, 06:58 AM
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I heard Tohoshinki got the rights for MIROTIC and such, but their song Lovin' you sounds JUST like Ayu's End roll... I figured since they're label mates, that was permitted as well. But in Korea there was the Hyori / Britney Spears thing...
I haven't listened to those releases, but you got me curious. :runs off to download:
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Old 24th January 2009, 12:52 PM
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For a minute there, I thought I was listening to HEAVEN
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Old 24th January 2009, 01:04 PM
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Soo whose original? im confused...anyway i didnt like what i heard >.<
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Old 24th January 2009, 01:13 PM
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°__° I need to listen HEAVEN for get this discussion.

Anyway I read somewhere that Secret sound like a ZARD's song, but lol plagiarism is different than similarities.
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Old 24th January 2009, 07:34 PM
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Soo whose original? im confused...anyway i didnt like what i heard >.<
Ayumi is the original. Porta used a (legal) sample of Ayu's HEAVEN -piano version-.
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Old 31st January 2009, 04:10 PM
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Ayumi is the original. Porta used a (legal) sample of Ayu's HEAVEN -piano version-.
How do you know it's legal?
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Old 6th February 2009, 12:07 PM
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i'm glad ayumi never steals other people's music.

lol but still half of the (miss)understood melodies was taken from a SWEETBOX album.
I think it was Ladies Night, Rainy day, Beautiful day, pride
and one more I think. The ooes from Ayu are much better though.


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I heard Tohoshinki got the rights for MIROTIC and such, but their song Lovin' you sounds JUST like Ayu's End roll... I figured since they're label mates, that was permitted as well. But in Korea there was the Hyori / Britney Spears thing...
There was something similar with Tohoshinkis song Jumon.. it was the same as Sarah Connors (German Singer) "Under my Skin".
But they sold the rights for the song in both contries
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Old 6th February 2009, 09:53 PM
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I don't really think it's a big deal... and I don't listen to rap.
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Old 6th February 2009, 10:11 PM
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i'm glad ayumi never steals other people's music.
I should let you know that the intro of Free&Easy is a sample from another song,but I think it was legal.
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Old 6th February 2009, 10:14 PM
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I heard Tohoshinki got the rights for MIROTIC and such, but their song Lovin' you sounds JUST like Ayu's End roll...
So I see I'm not the only one who noticed that around here...
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Old 6th February 2009, 10:18 PM
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i'god.. i HATE porta x_x
his "raps" are annoying, and his lyrics horrible

how he dare to steal ayumi's song?
i'm gonna tell all my friends about this haha
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http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57282


It's not egally sampled...just read my comments,please.
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Old 7th February 2009, 07:33 AM
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Sampling isn't plagiarism...
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Old 7th February 2009, 10:20 AM
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Anyone here that believes this is illegal (which is false) should also not support this site because the downloads section is also illegal (which is true).

IF this was plagarism, then every cover or fan-made remix is also plagarism/copyrighted (for profit or not).

But this is not plagarism. You don't need permission. This "work of art" or whatever you want to call it (maybe it's just plain crap to you, everyone has their own tastes) is very TRANSFORMATIVE, meaning that it has changed far from it's orginal work. The lyrics are not the same, the language is not the same, the musical style and composition is not the same, there's a heavy beat not heard in the original, and even the instrumental itself has been modified. Moreover, it's not going to hurt in any way the original artist and company. In this particular case, giving credit is not necessary. Just because 2% of something is similar to another thing, does not make it unoriginal at all.

People who do covers are the same, even if it is less transformative. Do people say "they're stealing"? No, even if they use the exact same instrumental, style and lyrics. Rather, it is widely accepted to do covers. However, in this case, giving credit is necessary. And if someone wants to sell a cover, that person needs permission as it can harm the original artist or company (usually in terms of sales/competition).

Ex. Avex does not delete Ayu covers on Youtube.

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Old 7th February 2009, 10:32 AM
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Old 7th February 2009, 11:15 AM
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Lovin' you doesn't remind me of End roll at all~ This song only samples a couple of notes XD no biggie (and it might just be a simple coincidence). As for the sweetbox album, the melodies weren't TAKEN, Geo got both the credits and the money for his compositions, there was nothing illegal about it as both sides were quite happy ^^
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Old 7th February 2009, 11:41 AM
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lol but still half of the (miss)understood melodies was taken from a SWEETBOX album.
I think it was Ladies Night, Rainy day, Beautiful day, pride
and one more I think. The ooes from Ayu are much better though.
it's not really the same at all. They are all properly credited and it's common knowledge where the songs came from and how all of the compositions are being used by everyone involved.
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Sampling isn't plagiarism...
Excuse me but Utada SAMPLED a song and she DID PAID THE RIGHTS (I'm talking about In My Room)
So why Utada should pay and Porta shouldn't? And Porta USED AYU VOCALS! That's inacceptable!
Porta signed Universal and get money with his music

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lol but still half of the (miss)understood melodies was taken from a SWEETBOX album.
Ayu PAID the rights for those songs. ¬¬
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Old 8th February 2009, 06:07 AM
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Ayu needs to sing with that beat.
HEAVEN "Rap Version" I'd totally re-buy the HEAVEN single for a Rap Version xD
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