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Old 30th September 2009, 12:02 PM
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True, I find it weird that Mitsu disappeared just like that. At least I still hear news from Naoto, Hide and Ryoji. Apparently Ryoji is still very close to the current dancers. Such a pity, Mitsu was a short favourite of mine before he was gone and I started to notice Shuya

And I don't know, using the "Shuya is gay" defense to say that's how he managed to stay close to Ayu is...baseless? And that Ayu basically fired Mitsu because of hm, sexual harrassment? XD Is this also saying that Maro is gay too? Shuya and Maro are pretty close with each other too, like he is with Zin and Subaru. Gomi you could see really obviously that he is effeminate behind all those muscles, but then again, I know some (slightly less) effeminate guys who are totally straight.

This may seem OT, but it might be one reason why Ryoji isn't with Ayu anymore! I've read some random japanese BBS and turns out Ryoji is married! Here's a blog link~

At that same place as well, some users also mentioned that Maro is married, now this, I am shocked. He acts so much a like single dude getting it on with Ayu. XD They're not asking whether he's married, they say things like, "I know Maro is married, but does he have kids?" Oh, and seems like Shuya's divorced too. lol. Just to make sure, you wear your wedding ring on your left hand right?
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naoto switched to namie?i thought naoto now is in EXILE?
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A looong time ago, before I joined AHS, I think I was on... AHO/AHN? And there was some weird rumor I saw in a thread about Mitsu quitting because one of the dancers sexually harassed him or something like that.
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"Working as a dancer" doesn't mean "working to a pop singer" or "working with pop music"... Maybe he is working with other kind of dancing... maybe he opened a dancing school... Maybe he quit on dancing and it's a lawyer now

We can't know why he is not working for ayu or even if it was friendly or not
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actually its the my story tour that I realized Mitsu might be gay. The way he dances (especially in inspire) is really flamboyant and out there. of course I can't post any videos cause everything of him in that tour is maybe 2 seconds long.
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^ Gomi?

And wow at theory... it's pretty cool, haha...

And Maro married, Shu-ya divorced?! O_O What the hell happened to my fantasies?

EDIT: Aww Ryoji's wife is so cute and they look so good together in their wedding attires!
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ya.they look so cute and compatible
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Old 30th September 2009, 04:06 PM
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Well hey, at least we know for sure one of Ayu's dancer is straight, Ryoji <3 I like him so much, and not seeing him in AT09 made me sad, but at least he has a happy ending!

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^ Gomi?

And wow at theory... it's pretty cool, haha...

And Maro married, Shu-ya divorced?! O_O What the hell happened to my fantasies?


EDIT: Aww Ryoji's wife is so cute and they look so good together in their wedding attires!
Lol I'm afraid to know, but still very curious, what kind of fantasy? XD
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If we were about to forget who is gay and who is not for a moment it would go like this: before 2005 Ayu had hardly any sexy concepts in her concerts or pvs, the My Story Tour and My Name's Women PV were one of the first times when she allowed her dancers to make bold moves.

In My Name's Women PV each of them does 'something', one is touching her leg, she is touching someone's chest, she's almost kissing Shuya, etc At the same time she choses Mitsu and Naoto to have the lead roles and / or solo dances.

After that Mitsu is very close to Ayu in Fairyland PV and A-Nation 2005.

End of 2005 during Kouhaku Fairyland performance Mitsu kinda lost his energy and during CDL 05-06 he somehow can't concentrate.

Arena Tour 2006, no Mitsu. Generally no dancer has a lead role except for the guy during Rainy Day, Ayu calls him Naoto but he looks totally different with braids, beard and moustache and cannot convince myself that it is really him.... At the same time in Blue Bird PV Shuya is the one with closest contact with Ayu, he holds her, rides waterscooter with her, etc.

A-Nation 2006, no leading dancer AFAIR.

Part of me PV - Shuya again

A-Nation 2007 - Shuya

Asia Tour 2007 - Shuya all the damn time

CDL 07-08 - Shuya drives Ayu fans crazy with his repetitive "up, right, left, down, up" dance moves.

Asia Tour 2008 - Now there was a moment when I told a friend of mine that Shuya has a nice body and he told me to shut up and look at Maro's back during Decision or My name's woman. That was the light in the tunnel. I started to observe him a little. Unfortunately, the dance ends with Shuya leading again. Hanabi - Shuya....

A-Nation 2008 - guess ...there he goes again, ..."up, right, left, sad face, down, up" Shuya (I like him as a guy, but I hate him dancing his ill-considered dances)

CDL 08-09 OMG, YES, the show starts with Maro, Green continues with Maro, finally, one hour later, god NO!, ._____. "up, right, left, sad face, down, up" comes back. However, this time Shuya shares Ayu with Maro, I'd say it's about 60-40. Even though Ayu introduces Zin several times and gives him a lot of freedom during MC's there's no chemistry between them. During some concert, AT 08 I guess, Ayu hugs crying Shuya and then gives a slight hug to Zin but it's loveless.

In general I think Mitsu didn't sexually herass Ayu but I can see in his eyes that he had some feelings for her and maybe she just decided to cut it before it would turn into sth bigger. Maybe not, maybe he simply wanted to change the lifestyle but I honestly think the way he looked at her was sth more than just an admiration and definitely has some meaning.

As for Shuya, well, everyone claims he is gay and he really seems like that, so it may be true that Ayu gives him lead role because she knows he won't fell for her. It's obvious she likes him at least as a friend and feels comfortable with him. I always thought how is it that other dancers aren't angry about him having the most solo dances. Besides he is handsome and girls love him on stage (except for AHS members ).

I don't think Maro is gay, I also never heard about him being married. I have a long interview with him but don't understnd much from it. For quite some time I thought Ayu likes him a lot, there were many photos of them together from the rehersals and they were having lots of fun. Then, during PCDL she started to treat him similar to Shuya, more solos, very bold moves, etc. I'm not sure what to think, great friends probably. Maro is experienced, as far as I know he worked for Koda Kumi before and some other famous people (quoting: 島谷ひとみ、melody、倖田來未、Pierrot) so he problably wouldn't risk his carrier easily.

Right now I would only say Gomi is 100% gay, Shuya - 90%? It's easy to call a Japanese guy gay, they dress totally different from boys in other countries.

Forgive me, I can talk about Ayu's dancers for HOURS As long as it's a discussion and not bashing.
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If we were about to forget who is gay and who is not for a moment it would go like this: before 2005 Ayu had hardly any sexy concepts in her concerts or pvs, the My Story Tour and My Name's Women PV were one of the first times when she allowed her dancers to make bold moves.

In My Name's Women PV each of them does 'something', one is touching her leg, she is touching someone's chest, she's almost kissing Shuya, etc At the same time she choses Mitsu and Naoto to have the lead roles and / or solo dances.

After that Mitsu is very close to Ayu in Fairyland PV and A-Nation 2005.

End of 2005 during Kouhaku Fairyland performance Mitsu kinda lost his energy and during CDL 05-06 he somehow can't concentrate.

Arena Tour 2006, no Mitsu. Generally no dancer has a lead role except for the guy during Rainy Day, Ayu calls him Naoto but he looks totally different with braids, beard and moustache and cannot convince myself that it is really him.... At the same time in Blue Bird PV Shuya is the one with closest contact with Ayu, he holds her, rides waterscooter with her, etc.

A-Nation 2006, no leading dancer AFAIR.

Part of me PV - Shuya again

A-Nation 2007 - Shuya

Asia Tour 2007 - Shuya all the damn time

CDL 07-08 - Shuya drives Ayu fans crazy with his repetitive "up, right, left, down, up" dance moves.

Asia Tour 2008 - Now there was a moment when I told a friend of mine that Shuya has a nice body and he told me to shut up and look at Maro's back during Decision or My name's woman. That was the light in the tunnel. I started to observe him a little. Unfortunately, the dance ends with Shuya leading again. Hanabi - Shuya....

A-Nation 2008 - guess ...there he goes again, ..."up, right, left, sad face, down, up" Shuya (I like him as a guy, but I hate him dancing his ill-considered dances)

CDL 08-09 OMG, YES, the show starts with Maro, Green continues with Maro, finally, one hour later, god NO!, ._____. "up, right, left, sad face, down, up" comes back. However, this time Shuya shares Ayu with Maro, I'd say it's about 60-40. Even though Ayu introduces Zin several times and gives him a lot of freedom during MC's there's no chemistry between them. During some concert, AT 08 I guess, Ayu hugs crying Shuya and then gives a slight hug to Zin but it's loveless.

In general I think Mitsu didn't sexually herass Ayu but I can see in his eyes that he had some feelings for her and maybe she just decided to cut it before it would turn into sth bigger. Maybe not, maybe he simply wanted to change the lifestyle but I honestly think the way he looked at her was sth more than just an admiration and definitely has some meaning.

As for Shuya, well, everyone claims he is gay and he really seems like that, so it may be true that Ayu gives him lead role because she knows he won't fell for her. It's obvious she likes him at least as a friend and feels comfortable with him. I always thought how is it that other dancers aren't angry about him having the most solo dances. Besides he is handsome and girls love him on stage (except for AHS members ).

I don't think Maro is gay, I also never heard about him being married. I have a long interview with him but don't understnd much from it. For quite some time I thought Ayu likes him a lot, there were many photos of them together from the rehersals and they were having lots of fun. Then, during PCDL she started to treat him similar to Shuya, more solos, very bold moves, etc. I'm not sure what to think, great friends probably. Maro is experienced, as far as I know he worked for Koda Kumi before and some other famous people (quoting: 島谷ひとみ、melody、倖田來未、Pierrot) so he problably wouldn't risk his carrier easily.

Right now I would only say Gomi is 100% gay, Shuya - 90%? It's easy to call a Japanese guy gay, they dress totally different from boys in other countries.

Forgive me, I can talk about Ayu's dancers for HOURS As long as it's a discussion and not bashing.
I hope u don't got offended, but may I ask what drug are u using when u r writing all these theory? xD
Cuz I really wanna try some myself xD
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Mitsu is gay. And if he's not, there's a hell of a lot he's missing out on.
*the fangirl inside me wants all her dancers to be gay ahahahah*
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In general I think Mitsu didn't sexually herass Ayu but I can see in his eyes that he had some feelings for her and maybe she just decided to cut it before it would turn into sth bigger. Maybe not, maybe he simply wanted to change the lifestyle but I honestly think the way he looked at her was sth more than just an admiration and definitely has some meaning.

As for Shuya, well, everyone claims he is gay and he really seems like that, so it may be true that Ayu gives him lead role because she knows he won't fell for her. It's obvious she likes him at least as a friend and feels comfortable with him. I always thought how is it that other dancers aren't angry about him having the most solo dances. Besides he is handsome and girls love him on stage (except for AHS members ).

I don't think Maro is gay, I also never heard about him being married. I have a long interview with him but don't understnd much from it. For quite some time I thought Ayu likes him a lot, there were many photos of them together from the rehersals and they were having lots of fun. Then, during PCDL she started to treat him similar to Shuya, more solos, very bold moves, etc. I'm not sure what to think, great friends probably. Maro is experienced, as far as I know he worked for Koda Kumi before and some other famous people (quoting: 島谷ひとみ、melody、倖田來未、Pierrot) so he problably wouldn't risk his carrier easily.

Right now I would only say Gomi is 100% gay, Shuya - 90%? It's easy to call a Japanese guy gay, they dress totally different from boys in other countries.

Forgive me, I can talk about Ayu's dancers for HOURS As long as it's a discussion and not bashing.
I realised Shuya basically got the spotlight all to himself in AT07, and isn't it around the same time Ayu broke up with Tomoya? I wonder if it's connected somehow. She really starts using her dancers a lot in general too. It's like, in AT05 you barely get a good look at each dancer, but she features them heavily since 2007 probably?

Shuya is really popular with the girls too, and Ayu definitely fully utilises that point. Zin is quite popular too but that's only after the MY ALL lessons. Still, Ayu doesn't use him for solos and lead roles maybe because he isn't much of a looker? He's still as cute as mashimaro to me! ^0^ Maro is getting popular too, but still, when you hear the applause, Shuya/Zin still gets more than him.

Still, they're all very close though, Zin and Shuya knew each other since their teen years, probably, and Shuya and Maro are getting pretty close too. Maro's been the one choreographing Shuya's solos, and that one time when he carried Shuya piggyback out during the encore XD And of course, the "sniffing" picture, lol.

It's a wonder though, Shuya and ZIn only got the roles, like they deserve it, few years into working with Ayu, Maro immediately got it once he joined. I wonder if it's got to do with his looks or his talents

Btw, that interview with Maro, can I have it too?
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Wow Skyia I love you! You interviewed Maro???!!! Wth I'm jealous.

Anyway... I can understand why people around here hates Shu-ya because he's "overused" or whatever, but besides Maro, I don't think any of the other dancers can do what Shu-ya does... I mean he has the height and the looks and possibly the "bad boy" factor that Japanese girls eat (is this true?), so... And he seems to be a really sincere and emotional person, I like that.

@maj: It's a dirrty fantasy but if they're really married/divorced that means they'll never look at guys.
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^ i thought she meant that she "have" an interview of maro...not that she personally interviewed him
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^ Ah okay I got too excited reading it! XD But all right... I'm gonna request that interview too!
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Wow Skyia I love you! You interviewed Maro???!!! Wth I'm jealous.

Anyway... I can understand why people around here hates Shu-ya because he's "overused" or whatever, but besides Maro, I don't think any of the other dancers can do what Shu-ya does... I mean he has the height and the looks and possibly the "bad boy" factor that Japanese girls eat (is this true?), so... And he seems to be a really sincere and emotional person, I like that.

@maj: It's a dirrty fantasy but if they're really married/divorced that means they'll never look at guys.
I think it more of the "pretty boy" factor. Shuya has big eyes and there are some times when he would smile where he has this "cat look" to him that could possibly one of the reasons why girls (like me) would go crazy over him XD
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^ omg the infamous cat look! Yeah I've seen fans comparing another male artist to a cat (well he pretty much looks like one...)... wow so it's true, the cat look that the Japanese girls eat. XD
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I realised Shuya basically got the spotlight all to himself in AT07, and isn't it around the same time Ayu broke up with Tomoya? I wonder if it's connected somehow. She really starts using her dancers a lot in general too. It's like, in AT05 you barely get a good look at each dancer, but she features them heavily since 2007 probably?

Shuya is really popular with the girls too, and Ayu definitely fully utilises that point. Zin is quite popular too but that's only after the MY ALL lessons. Still, Ayu doesn't use him for solos and lead roles maybe because he isn't much of a looker? He's still as cute as mashimaro to me! ^0^ Maro is getting popular too, but still, when you hear the applause, Shuya/Zin still gets more than him.

Still, they're all very close though, Zin and Shuya knew each other since their teen years, probably, and Shuya and Maro are getting pretty close too. Maro's been the one choreographing Shuya's solos, and that one time when he carried Shuya piggyback out during the encore XD And of course, the "sniffing" picture, lol.

It's a wonder though, Shuya and ZIn only got the roles, like they deserve it, few years into working with Ayu, Maro immediately got it once he joined. I wonder if it's got to do with his looks or his talents

Btw, that interview with Maro, can I have it too?
Yup, I've read some of the dancers already knew each other and one introduced others to Ayu. It's amazing how there are fans in each concert that have posters saying 'Shu-ya' or 'Zin' instead of Ayu, that's truly unique.

I first mention Shuya in that almost kissing scene from My name's woman but then he got lost in shadow until Blue Bird PV (read: I was too obsesed with Mitsu to look at other dancers ). To me he is good looking, he seems to be very sweet guy and a good dancer too, unless he does a free solo. His solos seem to have no choreography at all, his moves are totally repetitive and random.

Some people complained about Ayu's dancers, esp girls, being too old, but personally I could not imagine other dancers right now. The harmony between them, all the 'after party' stories, journeys, photos, etc, it's great Ayu is working with friends and not just employees.

Another trivia a friend of mine pointed out. Yo-chan is with Ayu from the very beginning, Kayanocchi dances for her since Concert Tour 2000 and maybe earlier too (I didn't check), did you know they both share the same surname? Kayano Nomura and Yoshio Nomura. And now there's also Maroka Nomura

Here's the Maro interview, my Japanese isn't good so if anyone is able to translate, please share.

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