[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~crossroad & L for 50th Single~

[Kingdom]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

It's easy to keep big numbers by picking only dates where low pop sellers and indie bands are going to release xD

I respect many of her archievments, but this one is just plain stupid IMO xD

It's easy for established artists to do, but for the new people who sell 10k per single/album they're stuck

[Max_ZZZ]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

^
France: Mylene Farmer with 5 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall and the most 1# singles too)

USA: Whitney Houston with 7 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall)

Australia: Delta Goodrem with 6 consecutive #1

But they don't really make big deal of it

i don't know where you got the usa one LOL
it definitely is not whitney houston- here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboa....28All-Time.29
and i'm sure the consecutive thing has trumped as welll...

it actually does matter, whenever a record is broken, even a minor one it's in articles and the artists adds it to their "records broken" collection

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

i don't know where you got the usa one LOL
it definitely is not whitney houston- here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboa....28All-Time.29
and i'm sure the consecutive thing has trumped as welll...

it actually does matter, whenever a record is broken, even a minor one it's in articles and the artists adds it to their "records broken" collection

The key word there is "consecutive"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...umber-one_hits

Among people with more 1# than Whitney:
The Beatles had a 6 singles streak
Mariah had a 4 singles streak
Elvis had no streak at all (but he released like... 10 singles a year)
Michael Jackson had a 5 singles streak
Madonna had a 2 singles streak
The Supremes has a 5 singles streak

[stepYOU1234]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

^
France: Mylene Farmer with 5 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall and the most 1# singles too)

USA: Whitney Houston with 7 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall)

Australia: Delta Goodrem with 6 consecutive #1

But they don't really make big deal of it

Thank you!
So Ayu will become female with the most consecutive number ones in the world?

[Bigtop]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

^
France: Mylene Farmer with 5 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall and the most 1# singles too)

USA: Whitney Houston with 7 consecutive #1 (also the most consecutive #1 overall)

Australia: Delta Goodrem with 6 consecutive #1

But they don't really make big deal of it

I did not even know about this... So Japan has the longest consecutive single streaks in the world...

[waterballoon]

wow a lot's pined on L! I have faith in her though <3

[brener]

congratssss ayu!!! now letz hope for L!!

[Andrenekoi]

@njanjayrp and @ero-kakkoii

Still, it's not like all of those consecutive #1 were hits... and it's not like she has the biggest selling singles... Even if some of those singles were huge hits, I do find it strange that some unsuccessful songs are regarded as hits just cuz they were released against weak competition...

I just wish she breaks this record so she can release her stuff according to her mood, and not according to the chances of getting a 1#...

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

@njanjayrp and @ero-kakkoii

Still, it's not like all of those consecutive #1 were hits... and it's not like she has the biggest selling singles... Even if some of those singles were huge hits, I do find it strange that some unsuccessful songs are regarded as hits just cuz they were released against weak competition...

That's the obvious truth, but without careful planning those wouldn't happen. I don't think they are regarded as hits just because they reached #1

[Nackar_91]

The reason that it's so much easier in Japan is because the market is entirely different. More young people, more hardcore fans that RUN OUT to get the single on the first or at least the first week. That's why Japanese singles SHOOT UP the charts and then fall down pretty quickly. It just works differently. Not trying to diss Ayu, being no. 1 is still an amazing achievement, but it's not fair to compare it to other countries where singles are generally bought over a much longer amount of time.

[Paparazzi]

Originally Posted by Nackar_91

The reason that it's so much easier in Japan is because the market is entirely different. More young people, more hardcore fans that RUN OUT to get the single on the first or at least the first week. That's why Japanese singles SHOOT UP the charts and then fall down pretty quickly. It just works differently. Not trying to diss Ayu, being no. 1 is still an amazing achievement, but it's not fair to compare it to other countries where singles are generally bought over a much longer amount of time.

Actually that's wrong. Japan actually has a lower % of 'young people' people
as compared to 'old people' than the rest of the world.

The real reason is because Japan practices blanket marketing. They don't stretch their promotions over 3 months are more like in most other countries, and instead do most of it within a week or two. Everybody that wants the single will know about it virtually immediately.

Radio is a dead factor, in Japan. Over in America, Radio is the greatest and main promotional tool. While TV show performances and product tie-ups do certainly help a bit, it was Radio that got TiK ToK, Poker Face, and I Gotta Feeling to 5,000,000, 5,500,000 and 6,000,000 sales respectively.

[Nackar_91]

Originally Posted by Paparazzi

Actually that's wrong. Japan actually has a lower % of 'young people' people
as compared to 'old people' than the rest of the world.

The real reason is because Japan practices blanket marketing. They don't stretch their promotions over 3 months are more like in most other countries, and instead do most of it within a week or two. Everybody that wants the single will know about it virtually immediately.

Radio is a dead factor, in Japan. Over in America, Radio is the greatest and main promotional tool. While TV show performances and product tie-ups do certainly help a bit, it was Radio that got TiK ToK, Poker Face, and I Gotta Feeling to 5,000,000, 5,500,000 and 6,000,000 sales respectively.

That is not wrong. I never said Japan has MORE young people.

It is simply a fact that the average age of the music buyer is YOUNGER than int he rest of the world. I can find numbers if you need them. The buyers are generally younger, more fickle, and are quicker to change their appetite. It's been looked into many times.

[Paparazzi]

Originally Posted by Nackar_91

That is not wrong. I never said Japan has MORE young people.

It is simply a fact that the average age of the music buyer is YOUNGER than int he rest of the world. I can find numbers if you need them. The buyers are generally younger, more fickle, and are quicker to change their appetite. It's been looked into many times.

Most of America's sales come from Teenagers. In fact, a large chunk of them come from pre-teens as young as 11 and 12. The variable really doesn't change from U.S. to Japan all that much, so It's clearly something entirely different.

[Max_ZZZ]

^^ oooh true LOL my bad i got ooowned

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

^^ oooh true LOL my bad i got ooowned

Remember that, I'm always right! u_ú

jk! That's ok xD

[primavera♥]

Its just... People seem to regard this as if ayu has accomplished with this...absolutely nothing....as if every other artists in japan can do this. As if ayu just cheated her way to this her whole career
But don't mind me. Im just observing.

I hope L gets number 1. It would be nice I think. I just see it as something to be happy about. Not to prove why ayus better than anyone or whatever.

And I wish crossroad wouldve sold 75k the first week. But its there now so its good.
Hmmm...I wonder how L will sell

[jbrat2219]

I don't think the ENTIRE record is bs because she had to get #1 and stay there in the first place. It's not like Avex was like OMG LOVE~DESTINY~ GOT #1 LET'S KEEP IT THAT WAY. At some point her popularity over all plays a factor, especially at her peak. And if it were SO easy, Ayu would have SMASHED the record already had it not been for Daybreak. So I don't blame them for treading a little softly now a days. That #2 reminded everyone that Ayu isn't invincible and GUILTY's #2 reminded us again.

[Andrenekoi]

I'm not saying it's "so easy" or "just marketing strategy"... I'm just saying IMO it's strange for her to have "number 1 hits" that sometimes sold less than singles that didn't reach number 1... and IMO this whole "single streak record" not only to Ayu, but the overall idea, is pretty meanless...

Nice... she is breaking a record and everything but... what else does it means to her career? This is not making her a living legend, she already is one since A Best... this is not giving her smashing hits (japanese general public doesn't even know most of the songs of the streak)... So, she is just picking her releasing dates based on "wich competition is weaker" for some years now and breaking a record of someone who did the same and... what does it changes?

Someone made fun of the other countries #1 streaks, while some of those women have more song recognized by their countries population than Ayu has on Japan...

*hope no fan gets offended* Mariah Carey has the most #1 singles at Billboard charts, but what does it gives her besides reason for her fans to brag? General public doesn't remember most of her #1 hits...

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I'm not saying it's "so easy" or "just marketing strategy"... I'm just saying IMO it's strange for her to have "number 1 hits" that sometimes sold less than singles that didn't reach number 1... and IMO this whole "single streak record" not only to Ayu, but the overall idea, is pretty meanless...

Nice... she is breaking a record and everything but... what else does it means to her career? This is not making her a living legend, she already is one since A Best... this is not giving her smashing hits (japanese general public doesn't even know most of the songs of the streak)... So, she is just picking her releasing dates based on "wich competition is weaker" for some years now and breaking a record of someone who did the same and... what does it changes?

Someone made fun of the other countries #1 streaks, while some of those women have more song recognized by their countries population than Ayu has on Japan...

*hope no fan gets offended* Mariah Carey has the most #1 singles at Billboard charts, but what does it gives her besides reason for her fans to brag? General public doesn't remember most of her #1 hits...

Do you live in the US or Canada?
Because over here EVERYONE knows ALL of Mariah Carey's songs, when they are released every girl is singing them, and the guys are staring at her music videos.......
small flaw in your theory

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by AyumiAi

Do you live in the US or Canada?
Because over here EVERYONE knows ALL of Mariah Carey's songs, when they are released every girl is singing them, and the guys are staring at her music videos.......
small flaw in your theory

Sorry, but on the same way I really doubt everyone knows every Mariah Carey song (considering she has 13 full albums), I doubt everyone can sing by heart, or even name all of her 18 #1 singles... A hardcore fan? Yeap... A casual listener? Unlikelly... Neither? Nops...

On the same way, I doubt anyone but hardcore fans (and maybe not even those) can name by heart all the singles Ayu has on her streak...