ORICON RANKING DAILY [(miss)understood]

[Mad_Cactuar]

Even if Ayu's sales decrease from time to time, do remember everyone elses are the same. I havent seen a kumi single outselling an Ayu single..

She'll always be number 1, in other words.

[ayu_fan929]

^actually she has. ku's real Emotion/1000 no Kotoba; has sold more than Daybreak;Bold & Delicious and forgiveness. ku also has some other singles that sold more than some ayu ones. same thing goes for otsuka ai as well.

[Paper Bear]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

^actually she has. ku's real Emotion/1000 no Kotoba; has sold more than Daybreak;Bold & Delicious and forgiveness. ku also has some other singles that sold more than some ayu ones. same thing goes for otsuka ai as well.

Yeah, but does Ku consistently sell more than Ayu? No.

[darkswordz]

Ayu can sell 300,000 consistantly for her singles. However, even with the popularity Kumi is enjoying now, her singles' sales doesn't seem to be able to get over the 200,000 mark. Therefore, Ayu can definitely sell more than Kumi!

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Paper Bear

Yeah, but does Ku consistently sell more than Ayu? No.

yes, thats true but thats not the point. im just saying that some ku singles have sold more than ayu singles disproving

I havent seen a kumi single outselling an Ayu single..

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

yes, thats true but thats not the point. im just saying that some ku singles have sold more than ayu singles disproving

Obviously not at the same time. Unless you want to compare sales of Poker Face with Real Emotion, then I dunno..
And Real Emotion only sold decently because of the Final Fantasy tag attached to it. And even by decent I mean 250 000 copies. Almost everything Ayu has sold more than 300 000 copies. If Ayu sang a Final Fantasy song, I don't doubt sales off more than 500 000 to 1 million copies for the single.

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by MC Tatsujin

Obviously not at the same time. Unless you want to compare sales of Poker Face with Real Emotion, then I dunno..
And Real Emotion only sold decently because of the Final Fantasy tag attached to it. And even by decent I mean 250 000 copies. Almost everything Ayu has sold more than 300 000 copies. If Ayu sang a Final Fantasy song, I don't doubt sales off more than 500 000 to 1 million copies for the single.

well yeah, im comparing ayu's lower selling 1s to ku's higher ones cos ur statement was flawed.
and theres another 1, ku has sold more at the same time, only once, but thats still at the same time+selling higher

Nov/Dec 2005
Bold & Delicious/Pride: 132k
you: 187k

but yeah i agree, real Emotion sold well cos of the FF song

[momobean]

Which Kumi singles sold more than Ayu singles, other than real Emotion/1000 no kotoba?

[ayu_fan929]

you outsold Daybreak and Bold&Delicious/Pride+some of ayu older singles.
LOVE & HONEY outsold Bold&Delicious+some of ayu older singles.
there are some other singles that sold some of ayu older singles.
yes, i no that i am comparing it with 'older' singles, but thats still selling more rite? and to say this again, im just saying its not entirely true to say that 'no ku single has ever outsold an ayu single'

[bpulse]

well, if you compare kumi's best selling singles to ayu's worst selling singles, then yes, some of kumi's singles outsold ayu's.
;P

[Maiku]

i hope Miss understood soon gets 1million

[darkswordz]

Originally Posted by bpulse

well, if you compare kumi's best selling singles to ayu's worst selling singles, then yes, some of kumi's singles outsold ayu's.
;P

-_-'''

[bpulse]

well, if you compare kumi's best selling singles to ayu's worst selling singles, then yes, some of kumi's singles outsold ayu's.
;P

[WalkingProud]

Originally Posted by bpulse

well, if you compare kumi's best selling singles to ayu's worst selling singles, then yes, some of kumi's singles outsold ayu's.
;P

LOL

that made me laugh so much!

[Raleigh]

Good Point there. Most FF songs sell really well just because the series is huge in Japan.

[Neo Daydream]

Originally Posted by jasjasss

oh WELL !! i think ayu should shoot herself =P or end her life

????????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Maiku]

Puzzling that Avex is investing in Kumi instead of Otsuka lately

i was wondering that also lol their profits could had been bigger if they had just pick Ai lol cause other than "Best of things" the 12 single thing arent really big for the big promotion its getting in my opinion and i doubt the same Trick will work again with the secon season Best album its to soon to try it again

correct me if i'm wrong

2005
ayu
estimate
step you/is this love-300,000
fairyland -300,000
Heaven-300,000
B&D-100,000
if you add it all you have 1million, now why did i bring this up? i just think it was a waste "12 single koda kumi" cause i can bet it prob didnt even break 800,000 while having all 12 singles put together.correct me if i'm wrong but why limited some singles when its getting a huge campaign/Promotion ? i just think if Ai was the one in the place of kumi she could had sold 1.5 million with 12 singles put together if not 2million.. but i guess kumi was chosen for some reason if not avex is being run by idiots

[*Petit*]

Originally Posted by Maiku

i was wondering that also lol they could had make it bigger if they had just pick Ai lol cause other than "Best of things" the 12 single thing arent really big for the promotion its getting in my opinion and the i doubt the same Trick will work again with the secon season Best album thing lol

It doesen't seem that such schemes are neccessary for Ai's popularity to grow. So I guess they think it's better to let her continue on like she does, instead of pushing her.

[evolution7931]

Originally Posted by *Petit*

It doesen't seem that such schemes are neccessary for Ai's popularity to grow. So I guess they think it's better to let her continue on like she does, instead of pushing her.

yeah. but her popularity isnt really growing on its own.. it's been relatively stable for a while.. I'm not saying that she isn't doing great, because she's doing pretty awesome, but I just think that if they just gave her that extra bit more, then she would be much more popular. oh and abut koda kumi, yeah the 12 single thing is a card that can only be played once. and even if the next album does really well, she'll have to return to the normal single release rate and she'll be out of the spotlight before we know it. come to think of it, I'm glad that they didn't choose to do that with Ai. The 12 single thing is making alot of people sick of koda kumi and alot of people are starting to dislike her because of it..

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by Maiku

i was wondering that also lol their profits could had been bigger if they had just pick Ai lol cause other than "Best of things" the 12 single thing arent really big for the big promotion its getting in my opinion and i doubt the same Trick will work again with the secon season Best album its to soon to try it again

correct me if i'm wrong

2005
ayu
estimate
step you/is this love-300,000
fairyland -300,000
Heaven-300,000
B&D-100,000
if you add it all you have 1million, now why did i bring this up? i just think it was a waste "12 single koda kumi" cause i can bet it prob didnt even break 800,000 while having all 12 singles put together.correct me if i'm wrong but why limited some singles when its getting a huge campaign/Promotion ? i just think if Ai was the one in the place of kumi she could had sold 1.5 million with 12 singles put together if not 2million.. but i guess kumi was chosen for some reason if not avex is being run by idiots

2005 ayu singles
step you: 345k
fairyland: 317k
heaven: 327k
b&d: 132k
total: 1.121m

ku's 12 single project has raked in so far about 770k, this number is expected to increase as the non-limited singles r still selling. n i really doubt that ai couldve sold 1.5-2m as 9/12 singles were in fact limited to 50k.

also, i really DONT believe that this 12 single project was a waste, at all. avex got wut it wanted out of this project- to promote koda kumi (->to get new fans). avex didnt want ku to fade away after her best album, as many artists have done before (ie:mai k; hikki; BoA) so they went ahead w/the prokect w/ku. after all this, avex also got sustained sales from her. 'you' has become her 2nd best selling single, n 'No Regret' passed the 100k mark and is on the way in becoming her 4th best selling single. Best~first things~ is STILL selling. after adding all these numbers, koda kumi has already sold more than 1million units in the oricon 2006 year. thats quite an achievement. and w/another BEST album, that number will likely jump to 2million. y is it getting lots of promo even tho all but 3 r limited? well, im pretty sure its never done before so thats y. and if avex can get the name koda kumi stuck in ppl's heads, then they've already achieved their goal. also, ku was most likely chosen as her sales were increasing before ai's. her 2005 album, 'secret' did really well, selling past 500k. her following singles sold past 100k and to add on that, her 1st best album sold past 1m; that was enough to make the plan go thru.

Originally Posted by evolution7931

yeah. but her popularity isnt really growing on its own.. it's been relatively stable for a while..

i disagree. i think ai's popularity has grown substantially since SMILY/Biidama was released. i mean, 2 of her 3 2005 singles have passed 'ayu territory' (300k+) thats quite an achievement. also, her LOVE COOK is doing really well, the sales r less than 100k behind (m)u.

Originally Posted by *Petit*

It doesen't seem that such schemes are neccessary for Ai's popularity to grow. So I guess they think it's better to let her continue on like she does, instead of pushing her.

yeah, ai doesnt really need the 12 single project like ku does. ai's popularity is already growing w/the rite tie-ins to her songs and stuff.