[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~Party Queen~ III

[kendelle]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Why would she credit a digital orchestra on her booklets?

I didn't say that she used one, but you could realistically get the same orchestra feel from a digital one with minimal production cost. There are some great digital orchestra videos on YouTube

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

At least You & Me, Snowy Kiss, Wake me up, Nanana and Shake it (half of her pvs from this year) were recorded overseas... Actually, Nanana used a special camera to cause that annoying effect.

Well my point was that you can't tell 90% of the time when she's shot overseas. It's usually in a room or a box where you can't even tell she was overseas for the shoot Or some nondescript location that could've been anywhere, not necessarily something that screams the fairyland budget, or Mirrorcle World, where you can tell she's in a secluded location/easily identifiable "foreign" locations.

They shoul've quit that camera move and saved the money hahaha!

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Disliking an album or how much it sold aren't evidences of how much was spent on producing it.

Not sure if this is directed at me, but I didn't intend that to be my statement?

[mizuki-7]

^
XD caricatural but not entirely wrong ^^

[elaniel]

Sounds to me as if someone is blind to anything about Ayu that isn't fantastic.

[isthisLOL?]

Buying 37 apples from WholeFoods is cheaper than getting one from Wal-Mart, DUH.

[TeamAyu2004]

^^ depends... are they 2 for 1?

fact is, you can say as many *cool* facts as you want too.
But the numbers are not there... We dont know how much it cost.

But if you ask me, Namie is more popular right now, so her time is MORE then ayumi. When it involves anything to do with namie its going to cost more because she is in right now.

[isthisLOL?]

Composers usually take around 30% of the profit(after deducting the "workforce" -> promo, musicians involved etc), unless they have a bad contract, so no 2 for 1 there.

[Andrenekoi]

Apples from the same farm shipped on the same trucks ;P

[TeamAyu2004]

^ still if there is a sale, they would be cheaper...
it was just a bad example, dont feel bad. :p

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

^ still if there is a sale, they would be cheaper...
it was just a bad example, dont feel bad. :p

Yeah, because both Ayu's and Namie's releases are always on promotion that's why people need to sell their internal organs to complete their collection from either of the girls...

[isthisLOL?]

It wasn't a bad metaphor, you took it out of context, turning it rotten.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ LOL, that doesnt even make sense.

@isthisLOL?... you did it before I did.

[mizuki-7]

They can put more money on Ayu's stuff after all she is the one who brought the more money to them since her debut =)

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

They can put more money on Ayu's stuff after all she is the one who brought the more money to them since her debut =)

Do we know that? I find it rather questionable. Sure, Ayumi has higher overall sales, but she also has an incredibly extensive videography and discography and most of her releases contain at least one very pricey aspect - some of which are most certainly not profitable (take the Days/GREEN single for example, they most certainly made a minus on it considering the GREEN video alone was reported to have cost 1.8 million dollars, yet "only" 190k copies at around 12-24 dollar each were sold, barely bringing those 1.8 million back in - and that's not yet considering the other PV with it's various sets and extras, the production of the music itself, the promotion of the single, the physical production of the single, the cut music stores take, logistics...)
On the other hand, most of Namie's releases appear to be very cost effective, at least since 2008 or so.

[isthisLOL?]

I played a joke on it that wasn't meant to be taken serious, it wasn't even directed at me after all

[mizuki-7]

If they spent 1 000 000 $ for an Ayu's PV I think there is a reason ? She is the only avex singer who has PVs who cost more than 1 M $ maybe in 2008 it was not profitable but her peak was already ended ! At her peak it has been reported that she was responsible of 40 % of Avex's grossing.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

If they spent 1 000 000 $ for an Ayu's PV I think there is a reason ? She is the only avex singer who has PVs who cost more than 1 M $ maybe in 2008 it was not profitable but her peak was already ended ! At her peak it has been reported that she was responsible of 40 % of Avex's grossing.

I believe she pays (part of) her most megalomaniac projects with her own money...

[mizuki-7]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

I believe she pays (part of) her most megalomaniac projects with her own money...

we will never know ^^

[isthisLOL?]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

If they spent 1 000 000 $ for an Ayu's PV I think there is a reason ? She is the only avex singer who has PVs who cost more than 1 M $ maybe in 2008 it was not profitable but her peak was already ended ! At her peak it has been reported that she was responsible of 40 % of Avex's grossing.

I think it's a mix of a tactic that spends extreme money in one release(the sheer sum of money spend can be a promotional device) and less on the next - and Ayumi paying stuff out of her own pocket to realize her artistic ideas.

Compare GREEN/Days(super expensive) and NEXT LEVEL(relatively cheap, not low-budget, but probably not very expensive) for example. I think they counted on Days/GREEN to help sell NEXT LEVEL, therefore spend especially much on it.

[Delicious n Bold]

Is there a way to know how much this has sold up to now?
Or is oricon always going to say 148k?

Because I'm thinking that it has sold 150k but those sales are so marginal that oricon nocurr about reporting them.

[TeamAyu2004]

^ i think it was said that if it sells less then 500 copies then they dont count it?

someone correct me if im wrong.