~Chart & Sales~ talkin' 2 myself Single

[ll moments ll]

Originally Posted by HiruNoKaze

You guys know why kinki kids's single has first week sales so much higher than that of other artists?

they're one of the most well-recognized music acts from Johnny's Entertainment. JE units do not have their music on iTunes or any music site, so fans have to buy physical copies, which often inludes many different versions (like Normal & Limited Editions). the Johnny's fanbase is also one of the most hardcore ones too.

i'd like to know what direction Ayu's gonna take after this too. i really want avex to consider using her songs as tie-ins with j-dramas. it worked with Hikki, Namie, Ai Otsuka, & Mika Nakashima with their sales.

[LacusClyne]

for goodness sake, why are people dissappointed in ayu when the sales aren't that high? i
t's not her fault and don't tell me you only like ayu, because she can sell a lot of cds. how can you call yourself a fan? just be another johnny's fan then, since their first week sales are sky rocket.

[HiruNoKaze]

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

But it was low for them. Ayu's sales are a lot higher than any other artist this week too, but by her standards it's low - same thing with Kinki Kids.

Yeaaaa...do you know if they've always sold better than Ayu?

[norain]

Interesting to note, but Utada has had two 200k+ selling singles. Go her!

Surprising though, Ayumi does more work than Utada (promotional work) but Utada is able to sell more...it's always been this way though, Utada beats ayumi in every category. (Album sales and single sales)

Still, not bad though, the single will still sell 100k at the least. =)

[sunny]

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi

I was on wiki, and i saw for the first time....
the sales...
of
T2M




Someone can tell me WHOOAT THE HELLO IS HAPPEnING?
Gliter/fated sold more!!!

__

sunny:
utada - BW/K&C
I'm really happy, shes still strong at the sales.
This week she was #5!
Sales till now: 190,151

Fake star of Ken has really bad sales =(
26,404 > BAD LOL

koda kumi 'ai no uta'
Not so bad as Ken, but still...
87,653

ayaka 'clap & love'
52,459, not so good as expected.

thanks 4 the info foxxy
im relieved now...
i thought ayu's physical single sales are dropping so low that avex might cut her as the top artist slowly

but compared to the others, i think its doing OK

for utada's BW/K&C, it deserves the good sales. the music is very good
beside that, it's also a theme song for evangelion, cult anime.

[HiruNoKaze]

Originally Posted by norain

Interesting to note, but Utada has had two 200k+ selling singles. Go her!

Surprising though, Ayumi does more work than Utada (promotional work) but Utada is able to sell more...it's always been this way though, Utada beats ayumi in every category. (Album sales and single sales)

Still, not bad though, the single will still sell 100k at the least. =)

cumulative sales?

[darc_aqua]

its really low for her since its such a great single, but ah well. not like old times anymore.

[darc_aqua]

its really low for her since its such a great single, but ah well. not like old times anymore.

EDIT: MAN, AHS is really slow, stupid double post.

[ayumixfan]

ah I still think this single was a mistake =( Probably because I don't like it and it sold bad =( I dunno about the decreasing sales, I agree that ales are decreasing but taht doesn't mean that 70k is a good number =x Glitter managed to hit 108k so I thought that was good, but below 100k =( seems too big of a drop. I hope her next single ( I heard was a ballad) is empowering or else Ayu will be in big trouble. I doubt that downloading is lowering her sales too. Glitter almost tied with Startin =S She just needs to release more happy pop music just to sell well or gain more popularity before risking a new style.

[njanjayrp]

I highly disagree with that, she shouldn't just release STUFF in ORDER TO GET HIGHER SALES.I have no idea what do you MEAN BY BIG trouble?I mean the songs were great & did the best they could ^^, its not her fault the people aren't interested in buying cds when they don't have to.The old times will never be back as the MUSIC industry has changed a lot, since 2002, I mean look at Ku's sales, at her peak she sold as much as Ayu's medium selling singles from MY STORY/(miss)understood era, there is nothing wrong with ayu's current sales.If this single was released a few years ago it would sell as high as evolution or NEVER EVER.Face the fact that she nor in fact MOST of the people will never sell as much as hey used to.AGain take Shimatani for exemple compare hers and Ayu's sales from a few years ago, than compare them now, I belive that they're pretty proportional^^ (at least most of the time XD).

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by namiie

Furthermore, the promotion/budget for this single is rather low IMO. t2m and decision's PVs were rather lackluster compared to her previous efforts (really out there PVs like fairyland aside, even). Also, the TV performances of t2m were less than spectacular...in the majority of them, her voice sounds punctured and tired and people who are usually not fans of Ayu may be turned off by such lives.

And about taking breaks: I'm not really sure that would help? The Brilliant Green took a hella long break and when they came back, they sold only decently and it wasn't a brilliant comeback or anything. In comparison to the earlier years, Ayu does release at a slower pace; she's only had two singles a year for the past two years....who knows though.

Yeah gotta agree that the promotion on this single was really crappy for Ayu's standards. Seriously avex should be more careful with Ayu when promoting her because she's not some random artist. These marketing experiments are usually not so great but a way to reduce budget and try to get away with it. And predictably enough they fail.

The pvs weren't that bad but it was obvious that they were on a tight budget. I did like the performances though, it seems that her vocals are improving with every performance, considering how t2m is not an easy song to sing.

Finally taking a break doesn't exactly work in Japan. In the West it is perfectly acceptable and some artists go on long hiatuses but in Japan if an artist takes a break she'll lose a load of fans and she'll have to work very hard to rebuild a fanbase. And sometimes they just don't because the fans have moved on to someone else. Take it from hitomi and Ami Suzuki who have really bad sales.

I think the problem is that there's not enough hype about her music. People always see her on photoshoots and think she's attractive but Ayumi seems to become more of an image rather than a musician lately. Two singles a year is not enough to create excitement for an album, especially if they hated one of them. Probably they won't bother to pick up the album at all. This is especially relevant with casual fans who just buy what they enjoy, because only die-hard fans are collectors in the end. If they find the singles leading to the album boring, they just won't consider buying the album.

Three should the minimum and she really should work harder to try and release more. I know that her schedule's hectic and she's been working hard for a long time but waiting around 7 months for new material is seriously a pain. People just lose interest because they are waiting way too long for a single to be released.

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by HiruNoKaze

cumulative sales?

I do think so, hikki sell more because of some reasons, not just like that ^_^.
and BW/K&C did get a lot of promotion too.

BTW t2m was #6 yesterday! Only new singles are above it, it's not a big drop at all! I think it's good!

[KuroixShiroi_Namida]

BW/K&C had anime tie-ins and stuff too, so it should sell more considering how crazy otakus are XP! But imo t2m > BW/K&C.

[tinka69]

Pfft...not surprised. But she's STILL number one, so I doubt she'll be complaining that much. -_-

[TITANIC]

i think this is good single but why the sales very bad like that???
and the download too...
very bad??
is it the sign that her popularity goin' down??
bad??

[TITANIC]

i think this is good single but why the sales very bad like that???
and the download too...
very bad??
is it the sign that her popularity goin' down??
bad??

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by riozz

i think this is good single but why the sales very bad like that???
and the download too...
very bad??
is it the sign that her popularity goin' down??
bad??

No, and we can't know the legal downloads numbers so we can't know if they're low either.

t2m is #7 today.
I think it will be 5-6 weekly for the 2nd week which is not bad.

[TITANIC]

hohoho..
this single must pass 100K

[SpiceSquad!]

argghh.. The bumber is already out!!!! theres nothing we can do!!
lets face it!!!

its a digital world right now.. people dont buy CD anymore they download it for FREE!!!

dont care about the sales numner.. at leat shes #1!!!!

thx for the info

[ayumisrael]

Yeah I mean, how bad is to be #1 x_x =P