[Utada Hikaru] ٠•●She's Thinking 6 to 9 In Her 27th Thread●•٠

[CoriKaru]

Yeah, I had no idea that "Sen" and "Ten" weren't going to be sold indefinitely when I checked up on them.

I was going to order them eventually too.

[Hachimitsu]

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU

Limited Edition, been out of print for quite some time now, otherwise I would've pre-ordered one.

goodluck on eBay

The release is only available as a limited edition? No way, I didn't know that.. That's a strange move, wouldn't she sell more if she'd release it like a normal book? I hope someone will scan it then...

[AMANDABYNES]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

Utada is an American artist. She is not promoting TITO as an 宇多田ヒカル album. Even if you watch the interviews and TV appearances she's done in Japan so far, the captions always read "Utada" in romaji.

This isn't being promoted as 宇多田ヒカル, it's a sound that is not particularly popular in Japan, and it's in a language that over 99% of the country doesn't speak. So therefore, she is doing quite well in Japan, IMO.

It's like expecting Beyonce to put out an album in French or Spanish or something and expecting it to sell just as well as her other CDs.

This is very silly. Utada is a Japanese artist...that does not change because she releases albums in English, just as Beyonce would be an American star if she released Spanish album. She has much more prestige here than any U.S. pop star.

Also, she has been in many magazines and Come Back To Me was released not long ago. The only difference between now and and other eras is she is not performing on TV shows.

[Lady_Eowyn]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

UTADA =/= 宇多田ヒカル. I don't know why people can't understand this. Even in Japan, when she is releasing English language stuff, she is called UTADA, not 宇多田ヒカル. And no, she is not only Japanese, she is also American. Wasn't she BORN in New York City?

Don't you think it may have to do with the fact that this is an album in a language that 99% of the country doesn't speak, it was released on a Saturday, and there were ZERO singles released beforehand? I think that makes more sense than automatically assuming people agree with your opinion.

My opinion is simply this; just because is Utada Hikaru doesn't mean anything she releases will sell millions. It's not like that. And actually i agree with Ninja. Exodus was a full english album and managed to get one million copies, but this doesn't seem to be one of those. what happended? it could be anything.

[emi♡]

But Exodus was released at a time when hikki was at her peak...

I mean, that's like expecting Ayu's A COMPLETE to sell as much as A BEST or something...which, um I'm sorry, not gonna happen.

And I just want to say...Just because you may not like the album, and you think it's crap does not mean that everyone else does...including the Japanese market.

There are a lot of reasons why the album didn't sell well there...and they are in fact probably more logical than just "they don't like the album." BS. People buy stuff no matter what...we've seen crappy albums sell well many times...and since there's always people who do like it, the argument "the Japanese market just doesn't like the album" is a little wth....especially when she hasn't had any promotion there.

I think I could understand if they heard all the songs and hated them...or they were booing her off stages or something...but...they haven't and aren't...so it doesn't really make any sense.

I have a very strong feeling the album will pick up once more word gets out...even if it takes months...and if she gets any recognition here...it would help even more over there. And since the album isn't released yet here...we're just going to have to wait.

[Kaiouforever]

Lol it doesn't matter really. I am really digging the ballads on this album. Apple and Cinnamon and This One are my current favorite songs, my friends are enjoying them too.

[jbrat2219]

It doesn't even matter how well it sales in Japan, does it? What really matters is how well it does in the States, and only time will tell, so... chill

[emi♡]

well i guess people care since they probably think it'll be a flop in the US lol.

[CoriKaru]

I care how it sells in Japan. I hope this trend doesn't continue for Utada's upcoming Japanese Releases.

[kang daesung]

Originally Posted by AMANDABYNES

Also, she has been in many magazines and Come Back To Me was released not long ago. The only difference between now and and other eras is she is not performing on TV shows.

First of all, she was some magazines, but many of those haven't even been released yet. She hasn't done any tie-ins, live performances and hardly any TV spots. Also, CBTM was not a "single" like Flavor of Life, Beautiful World/Kiss & Cry, etc. How many Japanese albums are actually released without even one single being released beforehand?

Originally Posted by Maemi

99%? I don't think so

Actually it's probably even higher. Read a book.

Originally Posted by emiko

But Exodus was released at a time when hikki was at her peak...

I mean, that's like expecting Ayu's A COMPLETE to sell as much as A BEST or something...which, um I'm sorry, not gonna happen.

And I just want to say...Just because you may not like the album, and you think it's crap does not mean that everyone else does...including the Japanese market.

There are a lot of reasons why the album didn't sell well there...and they are in fact probably more logical than just "they don't like the album." BS. People buy stuff no matter what...we've seen crappy albums sell well many times...and since there's always people who do like it, the argument "the Japanese market just doesn't like the album" is a little wth....especially when she hasn't had any promotion there.

I think I could understand if they heard all the songs and hated them...or they were booing her off stages or something...but...they haven't and aren't...so it doesn't really make any sense.

I have a very strong feeling the album will pick up once more word gets out...even if it takes months...and if she gets any recognition here...it would help even more over there. And since the album isn't released yet here...we're just going to have to wait.

Thank you for bringing logic and reason into this thread

[Keiichi_JPU]

^
^@CoriKaru: It definitely won't. Look at Prisoner of Love's sales, that single was a recut, had no new material (since the quiet version was already up for download I think) and still sold over 80.000, more than TITO seems to be selling! Sure give it some time and it will surpass 80.000, but it's an ALBUM, it's supposed to xD

Originally Posted by Lieke

The release is only available as a limited edition? No way, I didn't know that.. That's a strange move, wouldn't she sell more if she'd release it like a normal book? I hope someone will scan it then...

I know... maybe it's only Limited for now? and CDJapan will restock it later, another version or something? I simply didn't order it yet because I was out of money, and now it's sold out... kinda sucks

bah the more I think about it, the more I want the one with the pictures and blog posts!! I need to get this book!
:O! Maybe Amazon? I'll go check right now, they might even have a double-deal.

EDIT: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%82%B9%E2..._bxgy_b_text_b
(weird link, hope it works)

I can't read that advanced Japanese yet, could someone tell me if it says anything about Limites presses / sold out? Or shipping to the US / Europe, or payment through paypal? xD lol, their double deal seems pretty sweet. but it's still a lot of money... haven't got that much to spend tbh

[SunshineSlayer]

Yet another example of how NINKI doesn't mean anything.

I'm not sure how to explain her lack of sales for this one other than that maybe people were very dissapointed with Exodus. Yes, that album had high sales, but I think at that time people bought simply because they were like "ohh Utada has a new album out. I'm going to buy it!" But then once they listened to it, were maybe disappointed with the contents? So now maybe they are wary of another all english album. Who knows.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

UTADA =/= 宇多田ヒカル. I don't know why people can't understand this. Even in Japan, when she is releasing English language stuff, she is called UTADA, not 宇多田ヒカル. And no, she is not only Japanese, she is also American. Wasn't she BORN in New York City?

Don't you think it may have to do with the fact that this is an album in a language that 99% of the country doesn't speak, it was released on a Saturday, and there were ZERO singles released beforehand? I think that makes more sense than automatically assuming people agree with your opinion.

Are you trying to say that all of sudden Utada isn't Asian? Both her parents are Japanese, the fact that she was born in the States doesn't make her any less Japanese.

I didn't say anyone agrees with my opinion ^^.Well anyways we can disagree when it comes to all that, the fact is the album is flopping compared to EXODUS

[GRACE]

Originally Posted by emiko

well i guess people care since they probably think it'll be a flop in the US lol.

An unknown artist with no real recognition in the states, of course it'll be a "flop" to some peoples standards. I think it'll sell higher then Exodus did though, just because of it's mainstream sound. It'll probably do better digitally then physically.

Plus, it's actually not a bad album when you really listen to it. Apple and Cinnamon <3

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Are you trying to say that all of sudden Utada isn't Asian? Both her parents are Japanese, the fact that she was born in the States doesn't make her any less Japanese.

I didn't say anyone agrees with my opinion ^^.Well anyways we can disagree when it comes to all that, the fact is the album is flopping compared to EXODUS

That's not what he's saying though...at all.

And I guess people just think it's ridiculous to compare the two albums.

But I mean, inevitable isn't it.

Originally Posted by GRACE

An unknown artist with no real recognition in the states, of course it'll be a "flop" to some peoples standards. I think it'll sell higher then Exodus did though, just because of it's mainstream sound. It'll probably do better digitally then physically.

Plus, it's actually not a bad album when you really listen to it. Apple and Cinnamon <3

That's true. I think it'll do much better than Exodus as well...mostly because it has a commercially better EVERYTHING lol

And who knew Apple and Cinnamon would come out to be the best track right?

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by emiko

That's not what he's saying though...at all.

And I guess people just think it's ridiculous to compare the two albums.

But I mean, inevitable isn't it.

Exactly, even though the album was released years ago there is nothing else to compare TITO to. And I guess it does make sense to compare the album sales of previous Utada album to a new one under the same artist name.

[LEOyumi]

I think that kang is trying to say that Utada is an american artist because she uses this name to release her stuff there. And it's completely different from 宇多田ヒカル. The person is the same, but not the artist.

And if the album is released here in Brazil, I'd def buy it! Who knows.. XD

[kang daesung]

^Yes, thank you.

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Are you trying to say that all of sudden Utada isn't Asian? Both her parents are Japanese, the fact that she was born in the States doesn't make her any less Japanese.

I didn't say anyone agrees with my opinion ^^.Well anyways we can disagree when it comes to all that, the fact is the album is flopping compared to EXODUS

OK first of all, I don't think you understand the concept of "American." If a person is born to foreign-born parents, then they're not American? WTF. I'm going to chalk this up to the fact that you're from a homogeneous nation and don't understand this concept.

Anyway, I don't see how anyone can say "OMG IT'S FLOPPING" already. Give it more than 3 days, jeeze. And how are you going to really compare it to Exodus? That album was released 5 years ago, nobody sells like they did 5 years ago anymore. And maybe you weren't a Hikki fan back then, but I was, and I remember there was so much Japanese promotion for that album. I wasn't shocked at all that it sold over 500k its first week.

[ayumixfan]

Originally Posted by emiko

But Exodus was released at a time when hikki was at her peak...

I mean, that's like expecting Ayu's A COMPLETE to sell as much as A BEST or something...which, um I'm sorry, not gonna happen.

And I just want to say...Just because you may not like the album, and you think it's crap does not mean that everyone else does...including the Japanese market.

There are a lot of reasons why the album didn't sell well there...and they are in fact probably more logical than just "they don't like the album." BS. People buy stuff no matter what...we've seen crappy albums sell well many times...and since there's always people who do like it, the argument "the Japanese market just doesn't like the album" is a little wth....especially when she hasn't had any promotion there.

I think I could understand if they heard all the songs and hated them...or they were booing her off stages or something...but...they haven't and aren't...so it doesn't really make any sense.

I have a very strong feeling the album will pick up once more word gets out...even if it takes months...and if she gets any recognition here...it would help even more over there. And since the album isn't released yet here...we're just going to have to wait.

^ I know for some reason I think they're purposely doing this so they can collide with ayu's album XD LOL I swear in a week or two this album's sales will pick up and then NEXT LEVEL will be released *dies* I don't know for sure : S but i really think this album will be a sleeper hit which will still sell a lot overall or BAM sooner or later and kill the competition XD!

I don't think people get the concept of using two identities >_< Just think of ai otsuka, she also has her other persona LOVE who released trancey music and those singles FLOP like crazy, but is it because they dislike Ai, no its because the other identity generates music thats different and thats why they use two different titles. They're technically seperate artists because of this.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

OK first of all, I don't think you understand the concept of "American." If a person is born to foreign-born parents, then they're not American? WTF. I'm going to chalk this up to the fact that you're from a homogeneous nation and don't understand this concept.

Um... no, if you are born on American soil, you're an American. Regardless of your ancestry. Get your facts straight.