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Old 21st October 2015, 09:12 AM
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So apparently as I only have a free account I can only upload 3hrs of audio so it's been hidden. Sorry Not paying $60 a year for this.

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(my view from last night with ticket #153. I got into a fight with security after the show for this photo lol)
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Old 21st October 2015, 11:47 AM
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I like how you call out Timmy for "giving foreigners a bad rap" because of his ambiguous language abilities and then go to a concert, stand right at the front, and take pictures despite numerous signs and security people telling audience-goers *not* to take pictures, thereby giving the rest of us foreign fans a bad rap.

Oh, the irony of it all.
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Old 21st October 2015, 11:59 AM
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I like how you call out Timmy for "giving foreigners a bad rap" because of his ambiguous language abilities and then go to a concert, stand right at the front, and take pictures despite numerous signs and security people telling audience-goers *not* to take pictures, thereby giving the rest of us foreign fans a bad rap.

Oh, the irony of it all.
Lots of Japanese fans are taking pics and selfies before and after the show, it's not smth common just for foreigners.
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Old 21st October 2015, 12:22 PM
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Lots of Japanese fans are taking pics and selfies before and after the show, it's not smth common just for foreigners.
What's your point? As foreigners, we inherently stick out from the rest of the people in the audience, which means more eyes on us, which means we should be on our best behavior. How many times have we heard fans complaining on mixi about poor behavior and lack of etiquette from foreign fans attending Ayu concerts? It DOES reflect on the rest of us as a whole, even though it shouldn't, and if you're doing something that security feels the need to pick a fight with you over I certainly wouldn't be laughing about it. It's rude.

tldr, don't be an asshole/behave like a prat and just enjoy the concert
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Old 21st October 2015, 05:58 PM
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^How do you feel about the entire concert audio being recorded then? I've been going back and forth about it.

I took a few selfies once I found my seat, and I'm glad I did. I wasn't the only one doing it. I understand that maybe I stuck out more than locals would, but since they were doing it, I was going to do it too. How often am I going to get to go to an ayu concert? :/
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Old 21st October 2015, 06:49 PM
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I don't know how I feel about it, and I haven't listened to the recordings from the concert. I don't think what we as foreign fans do in the context of this forum ever really radiates out to her entire fanbase so there's not much of a chance for it to reflect badly on us as a whole? As long as it was done discreetly no one else at the venue knew anything about it. But when you're doing something to cause a scene and interacting with security, THAT is a problem.
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Old 21st October 2015, 06:54 PM
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Listening to these recordings, and even at the show I was at...I really wish she would do a studio recording of Love Song with the live arrangement and closing. The ending of the album version feels so empty compared to the live version.
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Old 21st October 2015, 06:58 PM
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Old 22nd October 2015, 03:54 AM
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What's your point? As foreigners, we inherently stick out from the rest of the people in the audience, which means more eyes on us, which means we should be on our best behavior. How many times have we heard fans complaining on mixi about poor behavior and lack of etiquette from foreign fans attending Ayu concerts? It DOES reflect on the rest of us as a whole, even though it shouldn't, and if you're doing something that security feels the need to pick a fight with you over I certainly wouldn't be laughing about it. It's rude.

tldr, don't be an asshole/behave like a prat and just enjoy the concert
to me, this is similar to black people getting more eyes from polices in the US.
this is so racist. i am sorry...
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Old 22nd October 2015, 06:26 AM
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to me, this is similar to black people getting more eyes from polices in the US.
this is so racist. i am sorry...
I love you for this comment.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 06:47 AM
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JEWELian, thank you for your uploads! It's really wonderful to listen to them:-) I like how she sounded.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 07:26 AM
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chocopockymaster, don't try to start something by personally attacking me, especially over something you know nothing about.

Your "giving foreign fans a bad wrap" argument is unfounded. There were multiple groups of people taking photos/selfies of the stage after the show had ended. I was just the unlucky one to be pulled up on it by a security guard as I was trying to leave the venue after the show. A security guard not even employed by ayu herself does not equate to Japanese fans complaining about the etiquette of foreign fans on mixi. I doubt any of those local fans who were taking photos at the same time I was would have been as hypocritical or belligerent to post anything online about me being 'rude' or an 'asshole' like you've just done. I even received messages and a comment on my insta from Japanese fans asking my permission for them to use the photo on their own social media accounts.

So please, keep your misinformed judgements to yourself next time.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 09:48 AM
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I got into a fight with security after the show for this photo lol)
So you already knew that recording and photographing are strictly forbidden during the concert, but you still decided to do all these and even uploaded and distributed the audio files?
If you think that it is just about the so called “rules” which the audience has to obey, then you are wrong at the first place. It is about the minimum respect you should give to the one who sings for you, whether or not you are an international fan.


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What's your point? As foreigners, we inherently stick out from the rest of the people in the audience, which means more eyes on us, which means we should be on our best behavior. How many times have we heard fans complaining on mixi about poor behavior and lack of etiquette from foreign fans attending Ayu concerts? It DOES reflect on the rest of us as a whole, even though it shouldn't, and if you're doing something that security feels the need to pick a fight with you over I certainly wouldn't be laughing about it. It's rude.

tldr, don't be an asshole/behave like a prat and just enjoy the concert
I totally agree with your point that as foreigners we should be more careful of our behaviours, thinking about the fact that Japanese people have the best manners.


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^How do you feel about the entire concert audio being recorded then? I've been going back and forth about it.

I took a few selfies once I found my seat, and I'm glad I did. I wasn't the only one doing it. I understand that maybe I stuck out more than locals would, but since they were doing it, I was going to do it too. How often am I going to get to go to an ayu concert? :/
Taking selfies before and after the concert is totally different from photographing the stage and recording ayu’s performance during the concert.
You are simply wrong when doing it wrong, not when you are getting caught.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 11:32 AM
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rap - a type of popular music with a strong rhythm in which the words are spoken, not sung
wrap - something to eat / something you wrap something into like paper-wrap
rep - short for reputation which is the word you guys wanted to use...
just saying
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Old 22nd October 2015, 11:48 AM
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rap - a type of popular music with a strong rhythm in which the words are spoken, not sung
wrap - something to eat / something you wrap something into like paper-wrap
rep - short for reputation which is the word you guys wanted to use...
just saying
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation...you might find this interesting:
http://www.patrickkphillips.com/gram...ap-or-bad-rep/
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Old 22nd October 2015, 12:19 PM
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^ lol thanks, good to know, sorry I couldn't resist but I'm really on neither side I see both sides of the argument. I think it's really nice of JEWELian to share his recordings but I also see how it can be seen as disrespectful. I don't see the fuss around the picture though, he got pulled aside by the security by chance, could've been anyone.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 12:35 PM
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Yeah 'bad rap' is acceptable, even moreso then 'bad rep'.
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Old 22nd October 2015, 12:47 PM
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I don't get how this recording is disrespectful. Or more disrespectful than this forum itself.

Yes, any recording is forbidden. But also uploading of CD/DVD rips... but I don't see angry comments in download section.
And that is not the first time... fancams and audio rips appears every year, at every tour/cdl. Chinese fans made fancams of almost full AT08, for example.

Thank you, JEWELian, for posting your recording
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Old 22nd October 2015, 12:56 PM
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wow lucky you!
you're super close to the stage!
so envy!
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Old 22nd October 2015, 01:44 PM
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I don't see a problem with people recording audio of the show or taking selfies BEFORE the show. What pisses me the most are people who wave the cameras during it. MORE SO the folks who go balistic/violent when the singer throws something in a crowd. There were cases recently of foreigner literally bitting japanese fan in gazette concert to win the drumsticm or a water bottle... the fan came home with bite wounds... now this is what gives bad rep. As long as you don't annoy anyone else or disturb their good time i don't see a big deal.
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