[Charts & Rankings] Days/GREEN ORICON SALES THREAD

[jimex289]

In a quiet week on the charts, Ayumi Hamasaki went unopposed for the #1 spot, with 128,000 copies of her new single, "Days / GREEN." This is the latest in a streak of 19 consecutive chart-toppers, stretching back to April 2002. Overall, she has had 31 number-ones.

Source: http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-4212

Hmm...128K. This thread is quite accurate!

[TITANIC]

Originally Posted by Jwiz

According to G-music:

Days/GREEN debuted at #2 and accounted for 15.66% of total japan/korean sales in taiwan.

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Days/GREEN debuted at #5 and accounted for 3.29% of total album/singles sales in taiwan.

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it will get #1 when taiwan version release, Im sure.

[maikaru]

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~

Some of you said that you really don't trust Billboard Japan but how is Oricon any better (especially since they don't count all the stores in Japan where the item is sold)? I mean, Oricon has had it's share of scandals. I'm not saying Oricon can't be trusted but it has it's share of faults.

Some of you should read more about the Billboard charts to get a better idea/understanding of how that rank artists. IIRC, all Billboard Japan does is add the artist's airplay(released songs only), physical sales, and digital sales (itunes-only I think) together to get a collection points or something of the sort. That is nothing bad compared to Oricon, who just base an artist's sales on one thing.

Maybe its true about billboard, I dont really know, its a new thing..
But most companies in Japan base success on Oricon and not Billboard.
Then, Avex takes both Oricon and mu-mo, and probably views itunes sometimes too.
You said that Oricon omits some stores in Japan, but doesnt Billboard do that exact thing online?
If it only rates iTunes, then it is really not anymore effective than Oricon, because Days is not on iTunes Store Japan.
Billboard is still very new, and the tradition is Oricon.
It's not so easy for Billboard to be trusted, even that Oricon had the scandal with someone accusing them to screwing the numbers in the past, with a legal case, etc.

[pommy48]

ayu would get #1 in Taiwan, but the single was released on a wednesday

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by maikaru

Maybe its true about billboard, I dont really know, its a new thing..
But most companies in Japan base success on Oricon and not Billboard.
Then, Avex takes both Oricon and mu-mo, and probably views itunes sometimes too.
You said that Oricon omits some stores in Japan, but doesnt Billboard do that exact thing online?
If it only rates iTunes, then it is really not anymore effective than Oricon, because Days is not on iTunes Store Japan.
Billboard is still very new, and the tradition is Oricon.
It's not so easy for Billboard to be trusted, even that Oricon had the scandal with someone accusing them to screwing the numbers in the past, with a legal case, etc.

support your point. I dun say Oricon is the best source of determining popularity. However, it's still the authority of the music industry. Just look at how the companies deal with Oricon. Do they trust Billboard as well? Maybe, but probly not much, since it's fairly new to Japan. Right now we look at oricon + recochaku to see how well the sales in phsyical and digital formats respectively. It's better than just look at iTunes since many people buy mp3s on other sites as well (iPod should be popular in Japan, but not that it totally conquer the whole market).

And why do we care about Oricon? Because the companies do, and the Japanese do. If the Billboard becomes the authority in Japan one day, we'll change the title to [Charts & Rankings] ayu ayu we love you BILLBOARD SALES THREAD .

@Luv: And about radio station debate. Well artists going there for promoting materials doesn't mean anything at all. There are so many radio shows on a day. The bosses can still give order regarding playing what songs on let's say, 50% of the shows (probly exaggerating or underestimating). An Artist just goes to promote the album on one or two shows per radio station. Like I said there're more than 10 - 12 show a day, and there are more than a few stations within an area in Japan. How can you be so sure that there's no manipulation within?

But I must agree one of your points: Don't blame the illegal downloads that much. Blame oricon for not including digital sales instead. They really should invite the digital world to the charts asap. Or else they'll be losing their authority.

[Gkone01]

Today, Ayumi is #2

Sales: 2388
2388*1.75 = 4179

2nd Week Total: (2437 + ? + 2388) = 8 444

Total: 127 650 + 8 444 = 136 094

[*Petit*]

IN the billboard yearly chart there were very few avex artists at all, no ayumi.

[MissElin_]

Oh, keep going D/G!!

[sanzo2011]

great ! hope she can back to #1 daily.

[Melrose]

Originally Posted by *Petit*

IN the billboard yearly chart there were very few avex artists at all, no ayumi.

wasnt ayu 33th yearly with mirrorcle world?

[sanzo2011]

I think it's Oricon.

[darkswordz]

^that's her ranking in oricon year end single chart, not that of billboard japan

[waterballoon]

I hope Days pulls through!

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by waterballoon

I hope Days pulls through!

I hope the same!

but really I don't think this single will go up in sales anymore... it will be gone with the wind pretty soon.

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

I hope the same!

but really I don't think this single will go up in sales anymore... it will be gone with the wind pretty soon.

MW charted for 15 weeks and I doubt this will be gone with the wind any faster, why being so negative?

[hamasaki_edwin]

yea keep positive guys

i think avex took a bet with this single by releasing a winter song (Days) coupling with a spring song (GREEN) so after the winter season ends and turn to spring, it'll be more relevant to promote GREEN (the song) itself so it could get a sale boost

[Peger]

Radio play is marginal in determining the popularity of music in Japan. Commercial tie ins are how music is exposed to the public and becomes successful. How many singers were flung from obscurity into the spotlight because they scored a tie up with a popular TV show or cell phone service?

Just look at Utada's last album. Fight The Blues was sent to radio stations in Japan while Prisoner of Love was used as the theme song to a popular drama. Prisoner of Love has outsold Fight The Blues digitally by a HUGE margin.

[v3lun420]

Originally Posted by sanzo2011

great ! hope she can back to #1 daily.

I hope so too, with bad sales from kuu. Kuu's sales might just drop again tomorrow/today (following regular pattern from all artists nowadays, I don;t think there will be a boost over the weekend for poor kuu, but I dunno). And I do feel that Days/Green are much much much better single than stay with me. But honestly, I don;t understand why Japanese are not buying more cds this time. This week is supposed to be Kuu's week (well, she definitely will get weekly no. 1) but 2k, 18k and 4.5k (25k total) is too ridiculous for 3 days sales, and this is Kuu's I'm talking about.

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

MW charted for 15 weeks and I doubt this will be gone with the wind any faster, why being so negative?

LOL i dunno
actually when I'm all negavite about something it always works out better than I thought!! xD

so thats a good sign!

[Teyla]

Originally Posted by v3lun420

I hope so too, with bad sales from kuu. Kuu's sales might just drop again tomorrow/today (following regular pattern from all artists nowadays, I don;t think there will be a boost over the weekend for poor kuu, but I dunno). And I do feel that Days/Green are much much much better single than stay with me. But honestly, I don;t understand why Japanese are not buying more cds this time. This week is supposed to be Kuu's week (well, she definitely will get weekly no. 1) but 2k, 18k and 4.5k (25k total) is too ridiculous for 3 days sales, and this is Kuu's I'm talking about.

Poor Kuu...
Stay with me isn't bad and it had a lot of promotion... I don't understand why it's selling so badly...