Ayu's social networks - Discussion #51 - Page 24

SunshineSlayer · #**461** 16th July 2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow_smile

Pretty sure she just shared a bit more about the production process this time around ^^ I'm sure she has many meetings for each album, she just never told us about them

One would think so, but even she posted with one of the pictures that she was having a rare meeting at Avex HQ.

They have a very large audience in the 20-40 year old range that are losing their idol. It would make sense if they are trying to use their current artists that have the potential to appeal to that audience; that's a ton of money that's about to leave the company and I don't see them really cultivating anyone new.

One can hope anyway that this might finally mean an album with better promotion again.

voltron · #**462** 16th July 2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

One would think so, but even she posted with one of the pictures that she was having a rare meeting at Avex HQ.

They have a very large audience in the 20-40 year old range that are losing their idol. It would make sense if they are trying to use their current artists that have the potential to appeal to that audience; that's a ton of money that's about to leave the company and I don't see them really cultivating anyone new.

One can hope anyway that this might finally mean an album with better promotion again.

It could also just be because she hasn't had an album in 2 years, and really doesn't do much to promote them these days. But I'm wishful that this is signaling a change!

I'm curious if they really KNOW how to promote these days, to be honest. Namie was a bit of an anomaly - she's always had strong tie-ins and ad campaigns, but she doesn't do much by way of promo otherwise (not appearing on TV, not really doing interviews, etc.). So again, I'm hopeful that they'll pull it together, but I'm not sure how strong their team really is to begin with.

truehappiness · #**463** 16th July 2018, 08:13 PM

I think she's just being more public about the meetings and what they are for especially since she knows people are waiting for the album.

njanjayrp · #**464** 16th July 2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron

It could also just be because she hasn't had an album in 2 years, and really doesn't do much to promote them these days. But I'm wishful that this is signaling a change!

I'm curious if they really KNOW how to promote these days, to be honest. Namie was a bit of an anomaly - she's always had strong tie-ins and ad campaigns, but she doesn't do much by way of promo otherwise (not appearing on TV, not really doing interviews, etc.). So again, I'm hopeful that they'll pull it together, but I'm not sure how strong their team really is to begin with.

I think a lot of these come as offers from other companies which want a certain celebrity to be their spokesperson. Sadly Ayu, even though she is a legend, lost that status years ago. Partially because of the many scandals and partially due to her inactivity. I remember last year when I was crossing the street near Yoyogi and looking over a couple of vans with ayu plastered all over them an older guy and a kid were passing by and the kid had asked who the woman was and the older guy said “hamasaki ayumi”. Most people in their teens, while probably know some of her songs, don’t really know her that well, I think. And while, sure, they could be targetting the groups between 20-40 which is where ayu most likely has more potential, the kids are usually the ones spending cash on their idols and related products. While this may vary in Japan, I don’t think it does significantly.

EndOfTheWorld · #**465** 16th July 2018, 09:17 PM

I don't think avex is increasing their attention to Ayu either. That would be great though. But sadly I think it is Ayu's decision to do less promo not avex.

Corvina · #**466** 16th July 2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp

[...]. And while, sure, they could be targetting the groups between 20-40 which is where ayu most likely has more potential, the kids are usually the ones spending cash on their idols and related products. While this may vary in Japan, I don’t think it does significantly.

I think it's the other way round.
Young people rather stream their music than buying while the older ones buy. Would explain why there are artists with high streaming numbers on youtube (like a bunch of J-rappers with some millions), but it's not reflecting in sales. And for e.g. like Utada, who is big in sales, but not so big in streaming numbers (she e.g. only has about 30k followers on Line Music and somebody like Kuu or Ayu has thrice as much). Probably different for tours and goods tho.

I do agree tho, that probably nothing will change with Ayu and this new album. We just never knew closer, how she's working.
And I think the Music Fair special is probably also about her 20th Anniversary - about time they do something for it.

Bigtop · #**467** 17th July 2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop

Ah, I see. Not listed for FNS but for an upcoming Music Fair episode! Interesting - a dedicated Ayumi Hamasaki episode for Music Fair...when was the last time that happened?

Looks like I called it a little bit too early because apparently Ayu will be on FNS (I wrote the post BEFORE the latest round of FNS artist lineup update, which included Ayu, earlier this morning Japan time)...

**Yoake** · #**468** 17th July 2018, 08:36 AM

I don't think that Avex is putting more effort in old singers. They are pretty aware that what happened with Namie is abnormal. I also think that Ayu doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. She seems happier in the shadow and on the stage with her fans. She might just do those special tv shows because it’s her 20th anniversary and think it’s a good way to fill the gap between the end of her concert and a-nation.
Regarding the meeting I’m in the” they just never talked about them” side. In the past she told us about the meeting of her concert. She doesn’t do it anymore, it doesn’t mean they don’t meet anymore.

EndOfTheWorld · #**469** 17th July 2018, 08:42 AM

FNSうたの夏まつり
７月２５日（水）１９時〜

第四弾発表！
＜浜崎あゆみ夏の大ヒット曲披露＞

今年デビュー20周年を迎える浜崎あゆみさんが
５年ぶりに「FNSうたの夏まつり」に登場！
自身の夏うた
「BLUE BIRD」と「Greatful Days」を
パフォーマンス！

#FNSうたの夏まつり
#浜崎あゆみ

Refix · #**470** 17th July 2018, 09:22 AM

Mmm yeah, I think I'm ok with this setlist...

SunshineSlayer · #**471** 17th July 2018, 04:49 PM

Yeah, I don’t know if they are putting more behind her or not, but I’m hopeful that they will. I mean hey, we’ve got two tv appearances around the time that an album is getting announced. That feels like already more promo than the last few years combined lol

KillTime111 · #**472** 17th July 2018, 08:46 PM

Very excited to see she`s talking about the new album, looks like they had their last meeting about it, which means they`re in the production phase for retail (or otherwise). If there`s one thing I`ve learned about Japanese business, is that you go through many many many meetings and e-mails for every detail. Whether it includes everyone or not, there are usually more meetings than probably needed. And for someone like Ayu, you know they go all out, even if her label is weening back. Her staff will most likely continue to have meetings w/out her, in terms of marketing, distribution, etc. She`s most likely already expressed her goals and such in previous meetings for the new album, and thus needs to just follow a schedule her team has laid out, and will attend meetings on a needed basis if something comes up.

Let`s hope they`ll reveal more details right before and during the TV performances

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njanjayrp · #**473** 18th July 2018, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Yeah, I don’t know if they are putting more behind her or not, but I’m hopeful that they will. I mean hey, we’ve got two tv appearances around the time that an album is getting announced. That feels like already more promo than the last few years combined lol

I hope they will every time a new release comes around.