Career low point?

[jbrat2219]

Ayu's albums are usually very versatile, the singles don't always accurately represent how the albums are going to go! I just know one thing, better not be any ballad album tracks!

[love in music]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Her low point is now! Boring ballad after boring ballad, boring covers that don't match the theme of the singles (NO MOONS, BLOSSOMS OR CROSSROADS OR L'S WTF???), the covers have NO backgrounds, her facial expressions are HORRIBLE. WHAT is with those lips? They're too plump and big I can't stand it! You might as well put fungus on her face

Don't even get me started on the fact that she's SO lazy she's not even in her own PV for blossom! I mean she makes us wait and wait and then she's not even in the damn thing! All the information came out so late because she's rushing again! If only she'd take her time she could put out some DECENT music for once! Like the stuff on NOTHING FROM NOTHING. Music's been **** ever since! I don't even know why I'm still a fan GOD!

i actually thought you were serious until i read the NOTHING FROM NOTHING part i guess it's because there are just so many posts that are like this in this forum.

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Ayu's albums are usually very versatile, the singles don't always accurately represent how the albums are going to go! I just know one thing, better not be any ballad album tracks!

they really are. i usually feel her album tracks are much better and more unique than the single ones.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

Ayu's albums are usually very versatile, the singles don't always accurately represent how the albums are going to go! I just know one thing, better not be any ballad album tracks!

you know, they are...and her albums are always different...

like there might be some formulaic songs here and there...but they are always different...you never know just what to expect!

^ *clap* You can always sum a thread up emiko.

--I meant your previous post on the last page. --

I agree, even in this time where "Ayu isn't trying anything new", it's still more creative than a lot of people. And maybe you're right. Maybe there will never be another I am... or (m)u or Duty or whatever. If that's the case, I'll just listen to those albums, and hope that I'll like her new stuff.

[ownsarai]

It would be great if none of the 48-49-50th single songs were featured on her next album, and she surprised us with an album full of unreleased tracks, but that probably won't happen. I saw someone say they thought RAINBOW/Memorial address were low points? That is shocking to me. I adore RAINBOW and Memorial address so much. I love Memorial address even more because it's a mini album full of absolutely epic songs. I wish Ayu would do another mini album to be quite honest, all with fresh material. I also don't understand all of the hate for GUILTY. It was a pretty raw, emotional album, and mostly rock influenced, which I love, so it's one of my favorites. The only album I really can't get into is LOVEppears, I only like a few tracks from it, the rest are pretty repetitive. OMG not Trauma AGAIN...>.<

I know I love Memorial address too. It's in my top 3... and so is RAINBOW. I'd love another mini album like ma. Every song is memorable for me. So I wholeheartedly agree.

[Kingdom]

Her low point (for me anyway) was around Secret, and then GUILTY, but even then I love some of the songs on GUILTY so it wasn't a low point.

Her low point as far as covers and what not, started around R/S and haven't really stopped since then, lol. S/S was bad, YW.../B were just okay... don't get me started on L.

[jbrat2219]

Originally Posted by ownsarai

I also don't understand all of the hate for GUILTY. It was a pretty raw, emotional album, and mostly rock influenced, which I love, so it's one of my favorites.

I don't get the hate for GUILTY either. It shocks the hell out of me that people don't consider that her most emotional album on the planet! I find it way more personal and the lyrics way better than any of her other albums to be honest. Definitely a favorite of mine. I consider GUILTY a high point musically but a low point emotionally. I don't like to see my baby sad so I'm glad that era is over lol.

[primavera♥]

i never understand GUILTY dilike either. i think some fans dont like a lot of the darker sounds or heavier rock tones. and are probably just not used to it in general maybe. its her darkest album imo.

Originally Posted by emiko

^yeah thats true...I also think that now...I mean, so many artists have experimented with so many different sounds...what even sounds "new" anymore? Nothing really.

Unless she does something totally out there and weird...it's never going to be the same "surprise" I guess, as it was when her old stuff came out...and if she does do something totally out there...it'll probably just be like "wtf" lol

She's doing some interesting stuff right now...I'm really anxious to see how she fits this stuff together with upbeat songs on the album. And then where she goes next...

At least she always keeps us on our toes with interesting stuff! It's more than I can say for A LOT of artists.

i do quite think will all of her discography it might be hard for her. plus not every genre fits every artist. nor does every artist like every genre

part of the problem i notice is fans saying how experimental she was in her early career. something different (although tbh thats not completely true anyhow). but what im saying is that when u only have 2 or 3 albums behind you you still have a lot more room to grow so duh its easy to seem like shes being super experimental and all. when u have nothing in your past/ but look where we are now. 12 yrs in her career. its not exactly as easy as it wouldve been some time ago. and some fans make it seem that its so easy without realizes in essence times change and people grow and many unavoidable factors that are never considered by the typical fan.
variables are always a pain though. but they make nothing concrete as with ayus career which is treated like so by some.

ayu imo is much more versatile than many other jpop artists i listen to

[tourniquet]

I don't know what was the low point in her life during her fame (there sure were a bunch of them), but musically speaking RAINBOW and partly Memorial address suffer from weird melodies that seem a bit uninspired at closer inspection. the arrangements contributed more to the songs than the actual melodies which tells quite something.

vocally, I'm not sure if we're out of the low that began to hit hard with GUILTY. I consider NEXT LEVEL and Rock'n'Roll Circus as her least proficient albums in that respect. although the quality seems to vary from song to song even on the albums. with her latest live I'm a bit more confident that there's some room for improvement, but not like in the old days. it's bothering me quite a bit as I'm unable to not hear the weaknesses in one's voice.

[dartsofpleasure]

Definitely GUILTY. It's just an album of weak songs

[AyumiAi]

Im not sure ayu has a low point for me, but i think Duty is the album that i least listen to so maybe thats it?
I think she's been consistently AWSOME!

[ownsarai]

Originally Posted by jbrat2219

I don't get the hate for GUILTY either. It shocks the hell out of me that people don't consider that her most emotional album on the planet! I find it way more personal and the lyrics way better than any of her other albums to be honest. Definitely a favorite of mine. I consider GUILTY a high point musically but a low point emotionally. I don't like to see my baby sad so I'm glad that era is over lol.

I absolutely agree with this. She put a lot of her emotion into it, yet everyone hates it so much. Maybe some people need to go back and look at the lyrics. I don't understand how someone can say the songs from this album are weak.
I'm also with you on not wanting Ayu to be sad, but she sure does put out awesome music when she is sad/depressed.

[emi♡]

^I thought that when they first came out.

I dont really know about the lyrics...but the songs were extremely forgettable the first time I listened to the album all the way through...

I still can barely tell the difference between dlma and decision...and I think there's another...

But I came to admire the very raw quality to a lot of the songs...not to mention that the interludes on the album are top notch.

Some of the pop songs on the latter half I cant remember musically too well either...but they are very Ayu, and very emotional songs.

Some people just...might not care about that.

[jbrat2219]

^ Probably because those lyrics have nothing to do with them. People claim they love Ayu's lyrics because they connect with them but GUILTY's lyrics are ALL about her. They're all about her recent events, not necessarily relatable but definitely super emotional.

[AyumiAi]

Originally Posted by ownsarai

I absolutely agree with this. She put a lot of her emotion into it, yet everyone hates it so much. Maybe some people need to go back and look at the lyrics. I don't understand how someone can say the songs from this album are weak.
I'm also with you on not wanting Ayu to be sad, but she sure does put out awesome music when she is sad/depressed.

I double this!
Gulty for me is one of my favorite albums from her!
dlma i think is so emotional and gorgeous
the raw and hurt emotion of the album in general is just gorgeous
i love Guilty!

[Keiichi_JPU]

GUILTY is the album that turned me from a casual "I-love-her-music"-fan into a true "omg-this-woman-is-amazing-I-wanna-buy-all-her-albums"-fan.

I love that album to bits.

[Yum!Fruit_Salad!]

Originally Posted by Tom Punks

I think musically her low point was NEXT LEVEL. Not that it's bad music, but it's just not as good as the rest of her discography in my opinion.

The only thing I'd like to add is she's still in that state to me. The overall quality of not only songs but albums and singles has diminished quite a bit. :/

[ownsarai]

I'm hoping she brings some fans back with L. Virgin Road sounds like it will be pretty epic~

[GREENsora]

In my opinion, RAINBOW is one of her best albums (one of my favs after I am...). For me, her low point wud be when she released Secret, the songs just didn't sit well with me. However, unlike many people, GUILTY has some of my favourite songs (Marionette, talkin 2' myself, etc) and is one of my favourite albums. Most of her earlier works are the best, but I do agree with most people, Ayu has gone down in quality and creativity.

But she's still the best