Ayu and her influence on her peak

[Evolution7/4]

^LOL

[sugarbasil]

My understanding was that she was a major influence during the gyaru era with para para and all that. She's referenced a number of times in the "Gals" manga...

[Evolution7/4]

Remember HAL's band and how the singer/music video was a carbon copy of Ayu in evolution?? Which was really weird considering HAL arranged that song and were and continued to work with Ayu. I love HAL but that was so weird, its like, ok Ayu our band's singer is just going to be you haha Nami Tamaki's voice always reminded me of Ayu (although only one of her songs RESULT sounds like an Ayu song IMO. Its verse is essential Unite's)

Here the HAL PV for references:
http://youtu.be/bUeh71p3yJo

[Evolution7/4]

^ Right. Like an artist with use a similar voice. Similar hair, etc.

[Kouyou]

Is Kana Nishino's popularily in Japan really comparable to Ayu's during her peak? I wasn't aware she was so popular, given that her sales went down on her third album, Thank you, Love.

I know she's popular in the gyaru culture, but I didn't know she was popular like Ayu-popular.

[ayu_ready?]

Originally Posted by Becky

Is Kana Nishino's popularily in Japan really comparable to Ayu's during her peak? I wasn't aware she was so popular, given that her sales went down on her third album, Thank you, Love.

I know she's popular in the gyaru culture, but I didn't know she was popular like Ayu-popular.

surely not, although, among new Japanese solo artists, highlighting 'Japanese' & 'solo', Kana does pretty good (with groups obsession & hallyu) and she appears in the mag covers probably most frequently out of all, I guess she appears most frequently live too

the situation back then & now is pretty different. we cannot compare the sales level and many other things

I feel like Kana even isn't on her peak. yeah, she's the online sales queen, but I don't think she has reached her peak and if she ever will actually

but should I say Ayu wasn't a fashion icon dring her peak. it depends on what you call her peak, lol, but just by facts, after LOVE-Destiny- release she got her peak, then with A & only during LOVEppears the signs of Ayu turning a fashion icon first came into place, whereas Kana does have that 'cute style' special thing about her

[Kouyou]

^Thank you for explaining this to me. I didn't think Kana was Ayu-popular but I wanted to make sure.

On another note, I really wish the group trend going on in Japanese music right now would stop and solo artists would dominate again. It makes me sad to see people like Kana overlooked.

[Andrenekoi]

^No, not Ayu level popular...

[jewelbox]

Among the trends Hamasaki has started are hime-kei (a look inspired by the fashions of 18th century French aristocracy) and chapatsu (hair-dyeing).
source:
http://gyaru.wikia.com/wiki/Ayumi_Hamasaki

[emi♡]

@happi and ayu_ready: I know, like when I saw Ayu in these clothes I was like "ugh no she isn't."

But idk I guess she likes it? it's just kinda ew to me on her. I like it on Kana though And on other models...but it just seems odd to me when I see it on ayu. I think she looks a lot better in the rocker chic styles.

I'll always and forever miss Ayu's early fashions. She just looked so rebellious and bad ass all the time. It was great. I think glamour Ayu is prettier...but I always preferred street style ayu lol

But that whole image, coupled with how her music was back then...idk I don't blame people at all for having the whole "old ayu vs new ayu" thing.

[ayu_ready?]

Originally Posted by emi♡

@happi and ayu_ready: I know, like when I saw Ayu in these clothes I was like "ugh no she isn't."

But idk I guess she likes it? it's just kinda ew to me on her. I like it on Kana though And on other models...but it just seems odd to me when I see it on ayu. I think she looks a lot better in the rocker chic styles.

I'll always and forever miss Ayu's early fashions. She just looked so rebellious and bad ass all the time. It was great. I think glamour Ayu is prettier...but I always preferred street style ayu lol

But that whole image, coupled with how her music was back then...idk I don't blame people at all for having the whole "old ayu vs new ayu" thing.

it looks good because Kana is young and it suits her. it's not that Ayu's an old grandma, but, mmm, this clothes seems childlish for her

[TeamAyu2004]

they do look like two different people...
But I also think it shows that she has grown up.... but then she goes and does something utterly horrible and tries to be a child again, lol

[setsuka]

Kana is nowhere near as big as Ayu was...lol
and all her trends are set by magazines, I don't think she has coined any yet tbh

what I mean she is trendy, not setting trends

totally different, she is too conformist to be memorable.... Kuu, Ayu, Shiina or any other prominent female Japanese singers were different and brought something new

anyway Ayu did set many trends and was really creative

[chu-lips]

^how if we forget the age thingy
i mean if all of us not know who is kana n ayu just see them as random model without knowing theirs age n who they are
do we still say that ayu isnt suit with that kind style that many of u said is kana invented
because in my opinion ayu still look nicee wearing it n prettier

still i thought that kana who followw ayu

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by chu-lips

^how if we forget the age thingy
i mean if all of us not know who is kana n ayu just see them as random model without knowing theirs age n who they are
do we still say that ayu isnt suit with that kind style that many of u said is kana invented
because in my opinion ayu still look nicee wearing it n prettier

still i thought that kana who followw ayu

Even if I didn't know Ayu's age, I can tell she's not a teenager, or even in her early 20s. In fact, to most of my Asian friends Ayu looks old, even photoshopped. So, I would still think that Ayu looks odd in this style, and Kana looks better.

[ayu_ready?]

I honestly do not like the new Ayu taste, earlier it was much better & suitable. or does it have to do with her team & stylist change? her photoshoots meant to be 'kawaii' seem not to look 'conceptual' like Kyary, idk, but rather ridiculous, you know it just looks really bad-taste, to me, maybe idk, but, I do follow fashion & I do study & examine it, both gyaru & 'just fashion', I can see so many ways Ayu could be looking now, looking good, but, oh well

practically everything can be tastefully & beautifully done, every concept, every outfit. it's just the problem of your make-up artist who makes you look older, okay, and your stylist who makes you look wtf. and you, yourself, too, because you accepted it all

[chu-lips]

yess ayu doesn't look like a teen anymore n neither look that old
just her make up which make her older
but when she's in offshoot she look younger than her age
we just trap in our mind that she's old old n old lol

im okk when an old woman or man putting on "teen" fashion as long as they'r still able to pull it off
it's just my opinon

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by chu-lips

yess ayu doesn't look like a teen anymore n neither look that old
just her make up which make her older
but when she's in offshoot she look younger than her age
we just trap in our mind that she's old old n old lol

im okk when an old woman or man putting on "teen" fashion as long as they'r still able to pull it off
it's just my opinon

Well, in my opinion, she still looks "older", even with little to no makeup. And so my point still stands. Even if I didn't know Ayu and Kana's ages, if I just saw pictures of them, I would say that Ayu is older and not as well suited for the style as Kana, who is obviously younger and looks better. I'm not saying that Ayu can't dress that way if she really wants to. She can do what she wants. But, I don't have to think it looks good on her.

[Mirrorcle Monster]

I suddenly realized that 100% of the posts were about her fashion influence. It wasnt my intention to talk just about fashion, I was also talkin about how she influenced other artists, PVs, types of releases, types of songs...

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Heavenly Zerase

I suddenly realized that 100% of the posts were about her fashion influence. It wasnt my intention to talk just about fashion, I was also talkin about how she influenced other artists, PVs, types of releases, types of songs...

Page 2 has a small discussion about her influence overall on the other jpop artists, we weren't talking about fashion only there...


And it's not like most than half of the posts about Ayu on this whole forum aren't about her looking cute or not looking cute anymore @_@