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Old 31st March 2015, 12:18 PM
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Song was good. I could have shot a better PV though. It was disappointing and very generic.
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Old 26th March 2015, 07:54 AM
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lady dinamite PV + A BEST LIVE phamplet photoshoot concept
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Old 27th March 2015, 01:48 PM
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^This. I don't get why people keep on coming just to trash an artist they are pretty open to say they don't care about anymore.
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:45 PM
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^This. I don't get why people keep on coming just to trash an artist they are pretty open to say they don't care about anymore.
I think these people just pretty much admitted to trolling lol
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Old 28th March 2015, 12:00 PM
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I like the PV. I think it's more about her attitude than what's actually going on. This along with Last minute seems to be about her just expressing get feelings than being abstract and conceptualized. It's very straight forward.
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Old 28th March 2015, 08:33 PM
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Because every pv from 1998-2010 (what RnRC?) is a work of god. And not one PV after that is worth showing anyone.

I get that people have periods of ayus career that they like better or where they find a higher concentration of better videos, songs, etc. But when people post things like what nick just said, what I said above is all it sounds like. Just ridiculous generalizations.

Which for me, is just lol for many reasons. But to each his own obviously. His own opinion or personal truth or whatever.
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Old 28th March 2015, 08:52 PM
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I do understand that everyone has their favorite "era", but I think saying you don't care anymore is a bit too strong. I mean, you're still wasting your time here talking about her when you could be outside taking a walk in the park. I'm sorry, but you do care.

And I also don't get people still complaining about WARNING. She released a very simple, arty music video a couple of days ago but you didn't like that one either. Stop waiting for another ourselves, it's not going to happen because Ayu is not the same artist she used to be in 2003. That's life in case you don't know.
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:11 PM
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I do understand that everyone has their favorite "era", but I think saying you don't care anymore is a bit too strong. I mean, you're still wasting your time here talking about her when you could be outside taking a walk in the park. I'm sorry, but you do care.

And I also don't get people still complaining about WARNING. She released a very simple, arty music video a couple of days ago but you didn't like that one either. Stop waiting for another ourselves, it's not going to happen because Ayu is not the same artist she used to be in 2003. That's life in case you don't know.
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I find this happens really frequent in the ayu fandom, my goodness..Ai otsuka puts out some songs people arent fond of , they say they long for another Kingyo Hanabi, and life moves on. Ayu enters a new era and people lose their brains.
lots of pining for Duty and My Story, and sometimes this really overshadows some of her newer best works like Love songs and Guilty. There are great songs from most recent works too. Terminal, Ivy, Last Minute for example.
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:00 PM
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Ayu probably COULD do it depending on who she pairs up with. If Kouki Tange comes out of retirement or whatever or she works with Kazuaki Kiriya, we'll get something crazy. Even Tetsuo Inoue or Hideaki Suenaga could probably pull it off.

However, with their shorter shooting days, it's probably much harder to execute PVs like that.
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:06 PM
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:29 PM
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Ayu probably COULD do it depending on who she pairs up with. If Kouki Tange comes out of retirement or whatever or she works with Kazuaki Kiriya, we'll get something crazy. Even Tetsuo Inoue or Hideaki Suenaga could probably pull it off.

However, with their shorter shooting days, it's probably much harder to execute PVs like that.
We aren't getting anything crazy because this is not where trends are nowadays... When Ayu was doing crazy stuff, everyone else did crazy stuff.

It's not about being lazy or uncreative, it's about adapting to the current market.
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We aren't getting anything crazy because this is not where trends are nowadays... When Ayu was doing crazy stuff, everyone else did crazy stuff.

It's not about being lazy or uncreative, it's about adapting to the current market.


maybe she just doesn't want to? She's doing her own thing most of the time anyways. Also what's the point of trying to adapt to Japanese market if it's all taken by idols anyways and 90% population thinks she's old and uninteresting anymore? All that trend stuff, more and more i start to think is a bubble. If she started going for the current market as you put here it would be PVs of her dancing in a bikini while looking cute.. Seriously....It's all just coincidence, imo. besides majority of big names are usually the ones that START the so called "trends", so really....
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Old 29th March 2015, 12:51 AM
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maybe she just doesn't want to? She's doing her own thing most of the time anyways. Also what's the point of trying to adapt to Japanese market if it's all taken by idols anyways and 90% population thinks she's old and uninteresting anymore? All that trend stuff, more and more i start to think is a bubble. If she started going for the current market as you put here it would be PVs of her dancing in a bikini while looking cute.. Seriously....It's all just coincidence, imo. besides majority of big names are usually the ones that START the so called "trends", so really....
You didn't get me... She ALREADY is adapting to the current market... Actually, she started adapting to it at the first singnals it would be the major trend. Who, besides Katy Perry, Ariana Grande or anyone with a huge children following is doing over the top, complex videos? The more simple stuff she is doing since 2009, and that dominated her videography since 2010 or 2011 is basically the actuall state of things in pop music. You will have tons and tons of videos that have only one location, 1 or 2 outfits and that looked way cheaper than what those artists can afford.

This is actually both a response for everything being over the top during the 2000 AND the global economic crisis, that makes closer to more down to earth aesthetics.

All of those videos are from big popstars on their places of origin, or at least, new stars backed by huge labels, and all of them have some of the stuff people are complaing about here... not many scenarios, not many outfits, they are highly choreography focused when there's a choreography, the special effects looks cheap, they look like something someone begining their career would release, some look amateurish and poorly executed, nothing actually happens on many of them and on the past 4 years Ayu have at least one video that reminds of one of those:
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You didn't get me... She ALREADY is adapting to the current market... Actually, she started adapting to it at the first singnals it would be the major trend. Who, besides Katy Perry, Ariana Grande or anyone with a huge children following is doing over the top, complex videos? The more simple stuff she is doing since 2009, and that dominated her videography since 2010 or 2011 is basically the actuall state of things in pop music. You will have tons and tons of videos that have only one location, 1 or 2 outfits and that looked way cheaper than what those artists can afford.

This is actually both a response for everything being over the top during the 2000 AND the global economic crisis, that makes closer to more down to earth aesthetics.

All of those videos are from big popstars on their places of origin, or at least, new stars backed by huge labels, and all of them have some of the stuff people are complaing about here... not many scenarios, not many outfits, they are highly choreography focused when there's a choreography, the special effects looks cheap, they look like something someone begining their career would release, some look amateurish and poorly executed, nothing actually happens on many of them and on the past 4 years Ayu have at least one video that reminds of one of those:
Sorry, I know it's offtopic, but could you please edit your post and replace all the videos with links or at least put them into spoiler tag? Having so many videos on one page makes my browser and laptop run really slowly. I'm not sure if the spoiler tag is going to work though, I think even though it's hidden the browser still loads all the content inside? I'd really appreciate if you could put the links there instead ^^
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:23 PM
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^the thing is i think that people still hope she will bring them what they fell in love with for the first time. but it seems like those things are way too specific and of course too different for each one. Also if she started recycling too many ideas people will say she's getting lazy or uninspired...i think people don't know themselves what they actually want from her lol
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Old 28th March 2015, 11:37 PM
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Since when was Ayu about trends though?

She was doing the legions of Caucasians in her PVs for ages but stopped only about a few years ago.

I think she's just beyond spending too much time on PVs nowadays since those require a bit more time than any of the PVs she's done in the last 2 or 3 years.
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Old 29th March 2015, 12:25 AM
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It's funny how y'all are debating about wanting to get the pvs she used to do more than ten years ago and such on THIS thread.

Just read the lyrics : "Telling me to follow expectations, asking for too much. This hollowed-out heart of mine won’t be coming back"
To me she's saying that she's not coming back to the era where she used to do super "creative"/"crazy"/whatever you call it things because at that time she used to be suffering, but now that she's in a good place in her life she has changed and she knows she won't be coming back to that time where she used to feel empty and thus was suuuuper creative (according to your standards)

I know people will reply with "but you don't always have to be suffering to make great art stuff" but i don't believe in that.
Some people are just too attached to the ayu they fell in love with years ago and can't accept that she's changed like someone said few posts above.
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It's funny how y'all are debating about wanting to get the pvs she used to do more than ten years ago and such on THIS thread.

Just read the lyrics : "Telling me to follow expectations, asking for too much. This hollowed-out heart of mine won’t be coming back"
To me she's saying that she's not coming back to the era where she used to do super "creative"/"crazy"/whatever you call it things because at that time she used to be suffering, but now that she's in a good place in her life she has changed and she knows she won't be coming back to that time where she used to feel empty and thus was suuuuper creative (according to your standards)

I know people will reply with "but you don't always have to be suffering to make great art stuff" but i don't believe in that.
Some people are just too attached to the ayu they fell in love with years ago and can't accept that she's changed like someone said few posts above.
THIS.
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Old 29th March 2015, 12:27 AM
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After reading a lot of her interviews, it seems as though a lot of that Ayu was 'forced' because she felt like she had something to prove or that she needed to display that she was a glamorous perfect queen up until like 2008 or 2009 which coincidentally is when people think she probably changed the most.
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Old 29th March 2015, 12:59 AM
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