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Old 13th March 2006, 04:17 AM
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someone should go up to Ayumi's house with a big sign and a blimp that say 'WE WANT CREA COMPOSITIONS! PLEASE COMPOSE!!! ;_;' If her next single were to have a composition by her, I'd be extatic.. She hasnt composed a song for a single since, what, "forgiveness"?? ._. ;_; she's such a great composer
No, she co-compoosed WILL
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Old 13th March 2006, 04:25 AM
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someone should go up to Ayumi's house with a big sign and a blimp that say 'WE WANT CREA COMPOSITIONS! PLEASE COMPOSE!!! ;_;' If her next single were to have a composition by her, I'd be extatic.. She hasnt composed a song for a single since, what, "forgiveness"?? ._. ;_; she's such a great composer
Actually her last song she composed was Will and that was with DAI and before that there was WONDERLAND, winding road, and Humming 7/4 by herself.

Anyways...

I've been a fan of Ayu for a very long time (since LOVEppears/appears) and I've learned that it's Ayu style that changes and not everyone will be happy with what she does.At times we'll grow apart from Ayu then she'll do something that will make us grow closer or closer than before to her. Around the time between I am... and RAINBOW I set Ayu aside because I just couldn't connect to her but once & came out I quickly grew closer than before to Ayu. I've also noticed that I've grown with Ayu and the evolution of her music but that's just me.
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Old 13th March 2006, 04:46 AM
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And OMG your sets are so beautiful they are a crime.
WELLLLL~

My set indirectly states that by taking you to the beautiful place, I am a criminal in the corner~ blawhwhawhawhaw.. Not really.

Thanks though :]
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Old 13th March 2006, 04:47 AM
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the ayu now is different. but, i don't feel that distant. ayu used to be unsure of herself, that's why her lyrics are so sad. ayu had become stronger since i am... and rainbow. remember why ayu did that 'rainbow' pv? ayu said ' she was healing the old her'. that's the time when her music style start to grow different from her past.
even her smile and laughter feel more genuine. just compare it with her concerts, it's not hard to notice, she do look more carefree then ever.
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Old 13th March 2006, 06:57 AM
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WELLLLL~

My set indirectly states that by taking you to the beautiful place, I am a criminal in the corner~ blawhwhawhawhaw.. Not really.

Thanks though :]
o__O In any case, the top one is absolutely fantastic and I'm in love with it. Its so good. Bloody awesome.

And yeah, Ayumi co-composed Will. It shows that she still has a hand in those wonderful song melodies and structures.
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Old 13th March 2006, 08:47 AM
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Well she composed Humming 7/4 and winding road on her own too...
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Old 13th March 2006, 09:02 AM
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Honestly, Ayu should see that her composing = teh hotness.

She needs to be like Ai Otsuka and do it liek woah. :]

But then again Ayu didn't do the 'music' thing until 5 years or so after Ai started. >> I still would love to see an ALL CREA album.

[which hopefully, people like.]
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Old 13th March 2006, 09:08 AM
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Yeah...the only mostly-CREA album was I am... and even then, she had featured composers and the ppl who composed Connected and A Song is born...And even then, there was a distinct change in her music. I guess I get what some of you guys mean when you say that we feel closest to Ayu when she's sad. I have to agree, because even though I didn't know what was going on with her at the time until the NTV Interview came out three years later, I felt closest to Ayu during A BEST. I could really feel her pain and angst when she re-sang her A Song for XX songs and in her pictures for the cover. I guess it's just weird because even though her career changed with I am...and she started composing her music, I didn't feel distant or closer to Ayu than during A BEST because I kind of expected it. I knew she would come back fighting after the release of A BEST. I didn't feel such a distance when she released A BALLADS because the leading song RAINBOW was one of her most personal songs, and the video was so inspiring and my perception of Ayu became clearer. Even during Memorial address I didn't feel distant because when she released No way to say, I felt like she was singing her lyrics for me -- I could relate to that song so much. When she won the Taisho, I still felt as close to her as I did in the beginning. Like I said, I felt some distance over the INSPIRE period, but when the NTV interview came out that year, it truly re-defined Ayu's career and clarified lots of things for me. In a way, that interview, coupled with her Moments single made me feel especially close to her. Truthfully, I didn't feel such a distance during (miss) because I could still feel her in her music even though GEO was composing her songs. It's just Startin'/Born To Be...is really commercial...That's probably why the distance has grown. It's sad because I'm used to being close to Ayu in that way -- I mean, I truly grew up on Ayu and I always felt especially close, so I guess now the distance has me feeling strange. On a lighter note, I know she'll be back soon.

ANYWAY!

When did Ai-chan start her career? I always thought she didn't start her career until about the time Ayu released RAINBOW/A BALLADS...
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Old 13th March 2006, 09:14 AM
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this topic is getting interesting.. the first page are mainly filled with "i feel distant from ayu right now", then the second page mainly filled with "i felt distant from ayu before but now i'm closer than ever" . I realized that most of us who felt distant before are between I am to A BALLADS period.

One thing pop out of my mind while reading this.. When ayu was super popular people tends to think her lyrics are so good.. Some people said it's because ayu wrote something "real" (depression in youth ages, sadness with surroundings, blah blah etc.). Those lyrics are called "greatly connected to the teenagers." Now ayu's gone thru the depression era and is moving towards "happy ever after" state. Ayu's still real... probly just her lyrics are connected to more mature fan base rather than younger ones. That's my thought... dunno if it's correct tho..
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Old 13th March 2006, 09:18 AM
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She won awards for composition at an early age, I remember..

NEVER MIND LOL

But she's been playing piano for a while~

"A piano player since age 4, Otsuka composes and co-produces her songs. She also writes her own lyrics. Her music ranges from upbeat catchy pop/rock music that can be heard in tracks like Happy Days and Sakuranbo to touching ballads like Daisuki da yo and Amaenbo. "
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Old 13th March 2006, 09:56 AM
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Put bluntly, I feel the exact same way as you. Spot-on.
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"A piano player since age 4, Otsuka composes and co-produces her songs. She also writes her own lyrics. Her music ranges from upbeat catchy pop/rock music that can be heard in tracks like Happy Days and Sakuranbo to touching ballads like Daisuki da yo and Amaenbo. "
From Wiki eh? I sure wish there was more info on her online.. Thats the only one I know so far. Some of those who have felt distant from Ayu have hopped to Ai's bandwagon.. Ayumi no Yume for example. Well me too, but because I like Ai more lately..
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Old 13th March 2006, 12:09 PM
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Well, I think Ai is easy listening imho, but its not meant for longterm use. :x xD

...cause if you do, you might go mad and end up in one of Ai's PVs as a fat guy! :p

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Old 13th March 2006, 01:37 PM
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From Wiki eh? I sure wish there was more info on her online.. Thats the only one I know so far. Some of those who have felt distant from Ayu have hopped to Ai's bandwagon.. Ayumi no Yume for example. Well me too, but because I like Ai more lately..
I've got one foot in each wagon. And I sense my pants splitting soon. >.<"

Seriously though, we should all try to enjoy her music for what it is, and not dwelve(sp?) into how it's different from her "old style" or something. After all, Ayu has inspirations from many different genres of music from the Smashing Pumpkins to Madonna, so we probably should expect a very diverse range of music from her already. Just take each song as they come along and try not to compare it so much to other Ayu songs, as hard as it may be.
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Well, I think Ai is easy listening imho, but its not meant for longterm use. :x xD

...cause if you do, you might go mad and end up in one of Ai's PVs as a fat guy! :p

/squees @ frienger
Unfortunately, I find her upbeat songs rather tacky. I LOVE HER BALLADS SO MUCH. Her ballads are all 5 star quality ones. Up there with Heaven and Carols.
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Old 13th March 2006, 08:26 PM
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whoa!
such a long discussion
but you know, guys,
people are different, ya?!
so, all I wanna` say, that
somebody likes her new image and somebody doesn't
and somebody doesn't like old Ayumi!
even so
maybe we are just surprised by the things she does?
maybe it's our "fan-nature" just can't get used to them?
because we haven't expected all to turn at such point?
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Old 13th March 2006, 10:05 PM
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I guess people rely on ayu's music to drown their sorrow and insecurities within it? That actually never happened to me though. I can feel her songs but it's not like i use them for mindhealing, I just listen to them because I think they're cool and I enjoy them (I love her voice and the composition/arrangements of most of her songs). I guess I don't put much thoughts when i listen to music as I do it just for the sake of enjoying it, not to analyze if the singer is an opera singer, if the song is a cover, if they have vibratos, choir, the range of the song, how many octaves it has, whether the song is generic or random, pop or rock. I don't study music and I have no interest in doing it.
Maybe the sudden shift of her producing happier songs makes people egoistically think ayu is driving apart on a different way to enjoy her happiness and forget about them? I'm not guessing, it's just what I've seem from observations of comments of people who can't stand listening to "Beautiful day" just because they are always in a bad mood, and they feel they're being mocked while listening to the song.
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Old 13th March 2006, 10:42 PM
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I am kind of new to this forum, and I discovered Ayumi Hamasaki only a few months ago. I have known of her existance for many years, but I didn't actually listen to any of her music untill recently. The day I did, I cried. Music has always been important to me, Ayumi gave me a whole new dimension to the word important. During the time that has passed since I listened to her for the first time and now I have been reading up on her career, watching every single tour, everything I've been able to find. At the moment im planning a trip to Japan for the sole purpose to see her live, it is a dream, but it IS possible to realise. I'm holding on to that IS as hard as I can.

I read through most things that are said in this forum, but as you can see on my postcount I rarely post (I think that will change ). I'm active on a few other forums aswell.

Well, that's my little introduction, now to what I actually have to say on this topic!

I read every single post, and I have to say what you feel greggerz189 REALLY makes sense. Your words were really touching to read for me, because I feel almost exactly the same. To me I think the distance is created because I have the feeling that at the moment Ayumi is not as involved in the making and marketing of herself and her music as she has been. She has also gone through quite a big change herself with her voice maturing, giving her singing a new dimension. I don't think that is bad, I like the change, but it can give a feeling of distance before getting used to her new style, I don't know. Even though she still writes the lyrics, seeing compositions by CREA has become more and more rare, I'm hoping a lot to see more of them on her coming albums/singles.

She has, as has already been mentioned, matured in herself too, the Ayumi that was unsure of herself barely exist anymore, atleast thats what I think. Her attitude has changed immensely in just a short period of time.

I, as many other here, also think that this is just a period that will pass! Whatever it is that creates this distance to some of us we will push ourselves closer to her, step by step if so needed, because we all love our Ayumi.

I don't like any of her albums less than any other. There are a few songs that I do not always feel like listening to, apart from them I feel that all her music supports me through the day and keep my mood up in an equal way.

I also really hope that she won't take too long to release her next single ,
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Old 13th March 2006, 10:46 PM
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Well, I can't say I feel the same as you do, but I have been having different feelings as of late. Feelings like sadness and nostalgia because Ayu isn't as popular or influential as she used to be. I think it's a real shame that (Miss)Understood didn't sell 1 million copies, because I absolutely love that album. It hurts me in a way, yanno? Because I feel attached to Ayu. If people talk badly about her or something like that, I feel like they are talking badly about a friend. I don't mean when people say, "I hated this song" etc...I mean when people say things like, "she's not beautiful" or "she can't sing".

I am going to Ayu's concert on April 15th, so I am looking forward to being surrounded by lots of other fans. I think that will show me that Ayu is still well-loved.
Yeah, I agree totally.I really don't want to offend anyone but the reason i've felt a little distant is that ayu isn't as popular as she was, and I think it's really sad that happens and I feel so sorry for ayu; I've only known about ayu for a few months so it is kinda hard to judge...I just think that with a new song or two, or a new image (a new haircut will TOTALLY stimulate everyone) is what she needs. It's an awkward way to feel because you feel like she's a friend, but for some reason you're not able to talk to your best friend about how you feel about her.
The main thing that will affect this is just a re-awakening of fans, because I think that the whole atmosphere of the low record sales are getting us down. I just have to keep in mind that with downloads the sales WILL of course go down. Arena Tour will get us through maybe.
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ummm
so, then, greggerz,
what do you supposed to do now?
I hope you still will be fan
(cause one my friend quitted with Ayumi a little time ago,
now she goes for Koda more
(is Koda better than Ayumi so much? ))
well
just everything turned at another-another point
with "INSPIRE"
cause music became so rocky and just different style too, different image too, different lyrics
all these caused another impression, eh?
still, I have to say
that through these years,
Ayumi became better in some ways (performance,exmpl, vocal),
IMO
maybe I'm not right, who knows...
but we do love her!
let's support her till an end!
will we?!

(and one more thing...
Ayumi has grown up, right?
now she looks at things differently then she did
I think this fact influences too...)

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