Hamasaki-Ayumi-Ron "The Theory Of Ayumi Hamasaki" - Page 3

Vadise · #41 21st March 2003, 07:22 PM

hmm.. i dunno.. no one knows what ayu does.. we're just too far from ayu
a picture showing ayu holding weed doesn't mean ayu smokes weed.. on the contrary.. no one can assure if she doesn't smoke weed except if she clearly state that she doesn't smoke weed... it's just a matter of opinions...

welcome to ahs elmstreet ^^

about ayu's appearances.. no doubt that she looked much much more aged than she should be, compare her present appearance with the one on the dome tour, a lot more aged ayu, especially when you see the RAINBOW PV, the real music video version is much better than the 22mb version floating around, it's on mtv everyday, even so, ayu lookes soooo old, i'm talking about the close up view, even the rainbow-colored ayu looks old, with exception the white one, but the ratio is only about 10 : 90...

if someone who's not a fan of ayu saw that PV, he/ she wouldn't have guessed that ayu is just 24..there'a a lot different from ayu shots in free & easy to voyage... even much more differences to Real me.. that is the first PV where she looked so old..

i dunno maybe she's just too skinny these days, for a better view, check out Ayu Ready 11.. although in my humble opinion.. she looks old in all of ayu ready.. only a year have passed since dome tour 2001 (since ayu ready was started in 2002)...

i really really hate to admit this, i dunno what you guys think, but this is just an opinion, i'm a fan, i want her to look beautiful always, i want to show her to my friends and make them see how beautiful she is... but i can't do that with the recent pics of her

the only thing that comes to my mind if these kind of topic appears is that she wouldn't have time to smoke weed, and her voice is getting better, this is one fact i got from the ayu ready performances... lot better than before...

no offense to anyone and i don't want to be offended
thanx

appears · #42 21st March 2003, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Piccolo
Elmstreet, are you on drugs? Thats my opinion right there. If Ayumi was on drugs, I think SOMEONE would notice in her 24/7 schedule that you produced above.

I'm sure they do notice, Ayu just pays them enough money to keep quiet.

appears · #43 21st March 2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
Ayu has stated herself, she's "a product" and a very popular one. ...Illegal drugs eat up a person, inside and out.

Exactly, you've just said it yourself. They've screwed up with Ayu's brain that she believes herself to be some sort of dream and product, reality's just a far-off memory to her, she's just trapped in some spiral of being pilled up, gurning in a corner, pulling a whitey, then finally slumped in the k-hole..

appears · #44 21st March 2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
I don't want to believe that Ayu is taking drugs. If she were to take even half of what you said, she probably would have suffered some sort of heart attack or defect or serious weight loss (she only weighs 100 lbs, after all. I seriously doubt her small frame could take so much of that crap for so long). And she also probably would have gone through some serious state of depression, which her songs would have reflected.

Don't you remember how depressed she was the time she released "NEVER EVER" & "Endless sorrow"? Her sadness at that time was reflected in both of these songs..

#45 21st March 2003, 09:16 PM

They haven't screwed up Ayu's brain! Whether or not Avex pushes Ayu to release lots of singles (which they don't do anymore, if you've noticed) or whatnot, that doesn't mean that Ayu shoots up to get through the day. If Ayu was really taking all that you have stated, her appearance would reflect it. I rest my case.

#46 21st March 2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by ElmStreet
Don't you remember how depressed she was the time she released "NEVER EVER" & "Endless sorrow"? Her sadness at that time was reflected in both of these songs..

Yeah, but NEVER does she state anything about drugs in her songs. Those songs reflect sadness at the state of the world. Good grief, already.

appears · #47 21st March 2003, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
If Ayu was really taking all that you have stated, her appearance would reflect it. I rest my case.

Ayu is not the icon she is merely because of her songs, but because of her fashion as well. As a leading fashion icon in Japan, she has the best of the make-up business working with her to make her look as beautiful as she can. With this kind of assistance I'm sure the hagged looks she could well obtain from doing drugs are well concealed.

appears · #48 21st March 2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
Yeah, but NEVER does she state anything about drugs in her songs. Those songs reflect sadness at the state of the world. Good grief, already.

Mate, the paranoia that runs thru her mind every day thanks to drugs has given her enough common sense not to broadcast to the nation through her lyrics that she shoots up..

#49 21st March 2003, 09:26 PM

Are you really an Ayu fan? Because fans support their artists. They don't try to find out what kind of drugs they are taking on the side or whatever.

appears · #50 21st March 2003, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
Are you really an Ayu fan? Because fans support their artists. They don't try to find out what kind of drugs they are taking on the side or whatever.

Mate, I think Ayu's totally awesome, I reckon I'm a bigger fan than most of the initiates here, who follow her mindlessly without any real passion.. I know I probably shouldn't broach of the topic of how much of a fan you are because then everyone's obsession with being number1 will overcome them all to post in about stuff like that.. Just not everyone is perfect, I can see that, I was just exploring another part of Hamasaki Ayumi, not necessarily Ayu..

Vadise · #51 21st March 2003, 09:32 PM

err... come on..
no one can prove anything
elmstreet has his points and biscuitgirl has her faith in ayu.. nine can be proven right or wrong

appears · #52 21st March 2003, 09:39 PM

This image alarms me, Ayu really doesn't look that good at all. I think she does indeed look like she's on something, contrary to everyone's belief around here.

#53 21st March 2003, 09:48 PM

OMG! Ayu doesn't look like on drugs in that pic! I think she looks beautiful there! That's so mean!

If you are a true fan, then welcome to the forum!

Yuki · #54 21st March 2003, 09:50 PM

Biscuitgirl, Japanese girls tend to be very light, between 88-105 (or more, depends) because of their diets. Ya know.. sushi, rawfish.. so on and so on..

We all have our opinions and theories, but I think Ayu looks beautiful in that picture.

***bulmasman*** · #55 21st March 2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by ElmStreet
Mate, I think Ayu's totally awesome, I reckon I'm a bigger fan than most of the initiates here, who follow her mindlessly without any real passion.. I know I probably shouldn't broach of the topic of how much of a fan you are because then everyone's obsession with being number1 will overcome them all to post in about stuff like that.. Just not everyone is perfect, I can see that, I was just exploring another part of Hamasaki Ayumi, not necessarily Ayu..

Hey, I know I said that I wouldn't get angry or anything about this, but now I'm honestly trying my hardest not too.
This quote from you has just really really pi$$ed me off now aswell.
Man, I can almost just about tolerate some of the extremely stupid crap that you've been spouting about Ayu, but then stating that you're probably a bigger Ayu fan than most of the initiates here is just going too far.

If you are such an big and mighty bloody fan of Ayu, why do you seem to be taking pleasure in angering, and especially in my case, upsetting the initiates here that turn to Ayu for more than just her music. I myself actually rely on Ayu as a person aswell as she symbolises everything good in my life. If it wasn't for Ayu and her music, I would probably be on drugs my self and just wasting my life like some of the bums that live near me. What can i say, Ayu is my life. I relied on Ayu to get me through one of the roughest times of my life in the last 5 years, so don't go telling me, or anyone else here that they're not true fans.

I think you should think a lot more about what you say, cos if you plan to stay at this forum, it's best not to offend everyone in your first ever topic. I mean, come on man, are you insane or something. I have no problem With you being here, and I still respect you for raising this subject as it did take guts, but I feel that you should offer up some kind of apology to the people here that you've offended.

Also, if you're gonna raise that topic of me not commenting on your "description" of Ayu's day, don't bother. I felt it was so unreasonably stupid that it didn't really deserve much notification.

P.S. I think Ayu looks beautiful in that picture aswell.

Drugs my a$$

***ImpactBreaker*** · #56 21st March 2003, 11:35 PM

If ayu does drugs or not, I still love her! If I was to have the news that she does drugs I would be shocked somehow but I would still like her songs. If she doesn't do, even better. I know Elmstreet's offended a lot of people here not only by showing his/her theory that many disapproved but by stating that opinion about being a true fan. but he/she also was attacked in my opinion. What if he/she's a true fan but he/she has this opinion about Ayu even though it does seem shocking for most? he/she was accused of not being a fan and for bashing in a lot of posts. If you don't agree with his/her opinion do like most are doing and reply you don't think so because of this and that, but try not to take the discussion to a personal side please. (I'm saying that for both sides)

PEACE!!!!

**Grantith** · #57 22nd March 2003, 01:01 AM

I think ElmStreet is doing this to get us rowdied up. He's posting these rediculous theories on purpose to get our attention and make us shocked.

From now on I'm ignoring him. He wants us to get our panties in a wad. He's doing it on purpose.

Unimatrix Prime™ · #58 22nd March 2003, 01:20 AM

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He wants us to get our panties in a wad

Nice analogy there, Grant

But seriously, I'm sure Elm's just trying to get people talking like Grant said. You yourself said it was just a theory, yet you obviously believe that she really does take drugs! So like most people here, I'll let you believe what you will and wait til you prove to us that Ayu does take drugs... something which the rest of us know isn't true.

Piccolo · #59 22nd March 2003, 01:43 AM

ElmStreet, I've only seen you for like two days, and already dislike you. How can you make up such a ridiculous theory and have no evidence to back it up? Anyone can write a sad song. Anyone can write a happy song. Does that mean they are on drugs? No. If I didn't know better, your just another Ayu basher. What fan would make up such balderdash about Ayumi? I think most of us know her very well from her interviews, and not once did she mention ANYTHING about drugs. Maybe she drinks coffee a lot. Ever think about that? Pay off the people around her? Please, that never works, someone always has a loud mouth, paid or not. Say what you want about her, but I'm not going to believe that you until you get some LEGIT proof. Until then, your comments are nothing more than horse crap.

launch619 · #60 22nd March 2003, 02:31 AM

I'm not really sure if lyrics to a song can tell you if one is taking drugs..... I'll give you credit Elmstreet, your very passionate about your beliefs there. Oddly enough, everybody else is just as pasionate about their own.

A new avatar Granith? Looks good!