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Old 3rd February 2008, 03:14 AM
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^ Not really, the criticism is pretty uncalled for. Yes, the vocals weren't the best, but to criticize the show is weird if you compare it to past countdown lives (excluding 0607, since that was practically an arena tour set up).

This countdown live had a bigger budget obviously, with almost twice as much stage area. People go crazy for the A MUSEUM stage, but don't like this one really. Just shows some are out to hate. (They even used a spider-cam for the dvd, you can see it zoom around in the tv-version, and they usually only use that for arena tours)

Costumes are a matter of taste, for once I liked them all. You said you like it better when the stage moves up and down, but again that's really an arena tour thing, they never use that for countdown lives (again excluding 0607)

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Old 3rd February 2008, 03:15 AM
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lol u seem to have a big problem with people who is against u right? lol. u hate it when people say ayu's performance sucks.
No, the performance didn't suck because it was just fine, she performed as any professional should've performed. But I think it was out of her control at times when her voice went all WHACKO. I don't think it'll be possible to "replace" some of those vocals, since she kinda has weird facial expressions like: "UH WHAT IS GOING ON D= THE SINGING. THE HORROR!" during her ride on the crane and stuff..

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Honestly, I did not like it...
Why? :<

Her singing definitely was not on par, but for performing while extremely tired and with her ear all effed up, I think she did all right. It angers me when people don't really take everything into consideration when formulating their "opinions" :< :< :< :<


About costumes: I think those colors were the "theme of the show" :/ Lots of monochromatic stuff and red. CDL05-06 IMO, had no theme at all, and was kinda like "okay, I'll wear white here, purple here, and green here.." and I know that some of those outfits were pretty, but I think it just wasn't executed well if you simply want "more color" because... I don't think anyone enjoyed Ayu wearing that purple fuzz-thing. D: [CDL06-07 was a remake of previous tours, so it should've been obvious what sections would have what, like NWTS and so on] If I recall, the opening outfit was kinda purple / blackish looking with jeweled stuff around her [the photo that Mikajohn posted at her blog shows these details] and then that went into a red and white schoolgirl ensemble, which then went into a rhinestone covered dress + poofy skirt [the usual] and then a red tightsuit for decision/SURREAL and so on] then going into RAINBOW with a sparkly silvery menswear-esque top. I dunno, these costumes seem more varied than you let on :/~ So what if she didn't wear a rainbow dress or something huge and orange? They're all pretty tame and no one really said they HATED any of the outfits like they usually do [other than the shorter version of the Kouhaku outfit with a skirt raised so she could walk]~ :\

Blah. :<

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Old 3rd February 2008, 03:32 AM
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lol.. then when would you say a performance sucks? cos ayu will definitely perform as any professional shld have performed! all the time!
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Old 3rd February 2008, 03:49 AM
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lol.. then when would you say a performance sucks? cos ayu will definitely perform as any professional shld have performed! all the time!
I don't think Ayu has ever once given a performance that wasn't "professional" :/

In order to perform badly you kinda just have to express no energy when you sing / dance, which Ayu rarely does. The end of the CDL is forgivable since you can tell she's kinda like "holy crap, I'm sad and crying. WHAT THE HELL."~ A lot of performed that don't care do this sort of thing where they act like they're better than performing... see ERIKA and her Destination Nowhere performances where she doesn't even sing in any of them :/ Even though Ayu did the CDL on the night before and also had rehearsals the next day [runthroughs for the DVD-recording live] as well as Kouhaku... she really did well. :O I imagine that many artists wouldn't be able to pull off such a schedule :/

Ayu, imo, has always been very involved in her performances, even if she has to do the same show 30 times, she always seems to bring forth enough excitement for the whole arena... especially at the end! :O
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Old 3rd February 2008, 04:20 AM
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the older ones were like "okay i will sing" and this one was like "yep i'm doing my best"..
i hope you know what i mean..
I think so too. Vocally, it was hit-and-miss, but I think her display of emotion throughout the show more than made up for any of the flaws in her singing. One thing I didn't like though was the weird......lady. thing. You know...
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Old 3rd February 2008, 05:06 AM
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So many fans said that this CDL was the worst ever...
but to be honest..
i really like it this time..
the older ones were like "okay i will sing" and this one was like "yep i'm doing my best"..
i hope you know what i mean..

so many people say ayu was totally off key..
but in my ears she was off key only at 2 or 3 parts..
the ones who were off key were peco and princess..
during surreal, specially at the end..
you can hear ayu singing a super cool note,
while peco and princess try to overtune this with their fraky voices..
okay...while untitled ~for her~ and MY ALL ayu was singing a bit off key , but she cried..

what do you people think?
I see where you're coming from and I think you're making some really good points here. I thought that in some parts in 'SURREAL' she hit some of the high notes well but all the rest was really off-key.

I'm gonna be honest though, I think that in terms of vocals...yes this was her worst concert. But I still had fun watching it and I admired Ayu for her perseverence. Like you said it was like "i'm doing my best" which is what is most important.
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Old 3rd February 2008, 05:11 AM
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I laughed out loud when they introduced Peco and Princess at the beginning, and they did their "whoaaa whoaaa" bit. It sounded so terrible, like deaf people screaming.

I didn't watch the whole thing, but I wasn't very impressed by what I did see. Ayu looked cute but......

Well, I guess I've never really been a big fan of the CDLs anyways.
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Old 3rd February 2008, 08:47 AM
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I laughed out loud when they introduced Peco and Princess at the beginning, and they did their "whoaaa whoaaa" bit. It sounded so terrible, like deaf people screaming.

I didn't watch the whole thing, but I wasn't very impressed by what I did see. Ayu looked cute but......

Well, I guess I've never really been a big fan of the CDLs anyways.
hmmm... i agree with you man! CDL is never too good for me...
just like last year's CDL because there's many costume!
bout peco and princess
hahaha!!! i laughed when i saw you write like that!!
yes, you're right! they do like that!
this CDL doesnt impressed me so much...
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Old 3rd February 2008, 12:58 PM
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ladies night CDL 07-08 become my personal fav performance...i watch it again and again, and i love it..she looks so cute and i love the whole theme of that performance
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Old 3rd February 2008, 01:15 PM
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ladies night CDL 07-08 become my personal fav performance...i watch it again and again, and i love it..she looks so cute and i love the whole them of that performance
yea, i'm with you~ i love CDL 07-08 LN so so much!
love Ayu dancing with the dancers~
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Old 3rd February 2008, 06:01 PM
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It's most likely that the audio will be normalized for this release, so other than MY ALL and untitled ~for her~ you probably don't have to worry too much about the vocals sounding weird. :O
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Old 3rd February 2008, 10:08 PM
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Okay, maybe my ears are just weird, but when I was reading all the hate, I really expected a terrible concert. But when I watched it completely, it actually wasn't so bad. I mean, it was not her best, but I do appreciate her energy. Yes, IMO ladies night and Surreal just sounds plain horrible, but I think the others weren't so bad. My All wasn't spectacular, but it sounded more like she wasn't able to sing because it was too emotional rather than just off tune.

But I never expect a lot out of CDLs.
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Old 4th February 2008, 02:18 AM
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I liked this CDL. I will admit, however, that it was neither her best nor her worst.

The tracklisting couldn't have been more perfect! It had just enough songs from GUILTY to promote the album, but a perfect amount of her older and underrated work! I mean, come on: starting over, RAINBOW, +, and Sotsugyou Shashin! ^^

I do feel bad saying that the vocals weren't perfect. We all know it's because of her hearing loss, but I give her credit for going all out!

In my opinion, CDL 04-05 still stands as the best and CDL 0X-0X the worst. (<-- *is afraid to mention her least favorite*) Aw, hell, it's my opinion isn't it? CDL 05-06 as the worst.
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Old 4th February 2008, 02:31 AM
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I thought SURREAL was horribly done. Like flat out horrible. The off-pitchness of it all shocked me. Worst performance of SURREAL till date.
Uhhh yeaaah... I was cringing the whole time through SURREAL. I really love that song and that was the worst performance of it I've ever heard. But Ayu realized herself it sounded bad and I really don't hold her accountable for it at all. The girl is deaf in one ear for crying out loud! She's still going her best and that's all that matters. I thought it was funny how she was trying not to laugh and stuff when she realized how wonky it all sounded.

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I laughed out loud when they introduced Peco and Princess at the beginning, and they did their "whoaaa whoaaa" bit. It sounded so terrible, like deaf people screaming.

I didn't watch the whole thing, but I wasn't very impressed by what I did see. Ayu looked cute but......

Well, I guess I've never really been a big fan of the CDLs anyways.
Peco and Princess usually bother me... but in this case, they were SUPER TERRIBLE. They were the ones off key most of the time! Ugh. It was like a trainwreck when they opened their mouths. D: It was just BAD.

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I'm gonna be honest though, I think that in terms of vocals...yes this was her worst concert. But I still had fun watching it and I admired Ayu for her perseverence. Like you said it was like "i'm doing my best" which is what is most important.
Exactly. I totally agree. But again, I don't hold her responsible for it, she's trying really hard! <3
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Old 4th February 2008, 06:16 AM
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I just finished watching it, and i love it, i enjoyed every bit of it, almost cried at the end, it was really emotional for me.

Ayu is so cool
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Old 4th February 2008, 09:07 AM
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personal i like this CDL because there are some new tracklist like rainbow, +, etc....
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Old 4th February 2008, 06:47 PM
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yeah me too.

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Old 4th February 2008, 07:42 PM
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It definitely wasn't the best of all. And even though it's true that her voice was off on certain songs, Ayu did the best she could. Would you have rather her not do one at all?

I understand that people have their own opinion on things, and it's okay to dislike it, but you have to admit it was admirable of her to keep going no matter what kind of problems she had to go through during the show. As fans, at this point, we should love her and support her for who she is, not because a few songs were off. We know why she was like that, and this past year was difficult for her.

She said she was going to keep singing for her fans, I think we should all be grateful for that.
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Old 4th February 2008, 07:46 PM
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I went to the concert and it was awesome! Better than CDL 06-07, in my opinion.
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