Britney Spears vs. Ayumi Hamasaki .....what do you prefer?

[kang daesung]

Originally Posted by noidea

Milli Vanilli sold millions of records, are they good artists? You cant measure someone by how much he/she sold, mayn amazing artists sold less than a million copys in their career with 5+ albums, they still are better than britney, because I dont know what britney sells....her body? I dont really see what shes doing aside that. Singing a little playback? I could record a song, let somebody make my voice better and than jump around singing it playback as well, does it make me an amazing artist? NO

Please My point is not sales, it's longevity, overall popularity and staying power. If she was totally without merit or ability, she would've fallen off the radar years ago. The fact is, no matter how many people dislike her, Britney has star power that 99% of singers in the world would kill to have, Ayumi included. She's the world's biggest singer, and for good reason.

[emi♡]

Ayu is a better artist...

but I have the same respect for Britney, even though a lot of people don't because of her personal life. She's had some amazing accomplishments...and people don't give her enough credit.

I would prefer Ayu of course...but a lot of Britney's songs are awesome.

[Gus-tave]

Ayumi Hamasaki wins against any opponent.

VIVA AYU~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Taru86]

I definately prefer Ayu, but I do still like Britney as well.

[love in music]

lol it is no use to compare them.
once Britney starts singing live and releases a whole album that she WRITES HERSELF that isn't just about sex, sure.

i still love Britney, i have since she debuted but i do not prefer her to ayu at all and can not respect her the way i do with ayu.

[ka♡ri.]

what is mni vinilli

[StarSUCKER]

I think Ayu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Britney...

I really can't emphasize that enough...

[StarSUCKER]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

Please My point is not sales, it's longevity, overall popularity and staying power. If she was totally without merit or ability, she would've fallen off the radar years ago. The fact is, no matter how many people dislike her, Britney has star power that 99% of singers in the world would kill to have, Ayumi included. She's the world's biggest singer, and for good reason.

Boobies?

[Yoake]

Ayu for sure

[ayumisrael]

I do recall that when Britney injured her leg in one of her past concerts she cancelled the show, while when ayu fell into 2 meters tall hole and injured hard her legs and should've rested she came on the same evening and performed like a diva and wasn't whining cancelling shows for that.
And let's not forget that ayu is keeping on hearing just with 1 ear.

Britney might be one of the biggest pop stars on earth (and she was my favorite artist until I knew kumi/jpop) though in that aspect we really shouldn't compare that to ayu since no japanese artist is (and probably will never be) as popular as Britney in the world. But she comes nowhere near ayu in any artistical, proffessional or appreciation aspects and also talent.
The only thing she might do better than ayu is dancing Britney got talent for that. Besides that though ayu takes her in every aspect imo.

[se7entheaven]

ayu ^^

well ayu herself said that she felt Britney is not herself (not her own creation), she's like a product.

This is to support someone's answer just now that BrittBrit really depends on her management team to build her image back. She literally knows nothing.

But ayu....hee hee ^^ YAY

[hikaricore]

Originally Posted by kang daesung

Please My point is not sales, it's longevity, overall popularity and staying power. If she was totally without merit or ability, she would've fallen off the radar years ago. The fact is, no matter how many people dislike her, Britney has star power that 99% of singers in the world would kill to have, Ayumi included. She's the world's biggest singer, and for good reason.

Ayumi has more star power than Britney could EVER have.
Britney has sex appeal, which draws WAY too many people to her.

Yes, she's a good dancer. Yes, her songs are catchy. But what Britney doesn't have that Ayu does...is a brain.

Ayumi is lovely, strong, and intelligent. She carries herself well and is truly classy.

Britney themed her last tour around a BDSM-themed circus.
I'm sick of sex appeal determining "star power" instead of talent and ablilty.
It's not fair to those singers with actual talent and normal body-builds.

So that's my two cents.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by ayumisrael

I do recall that when Britney injured her leg in one of her past concerts she cancelled the show, while when ayu fell into 2 meters tall hole and injured hard her legs and should've rested she came on the same evening and performed like a diva and wasn't whining cancelling shows for that.
And let's not forget that ayu is keeping on hearing just with 1 ear.

First of all, we don't really know the extent of either of the injuries.

Second of all, so...we should give Ayu more respect because she's partially disabled?

I'm sorry, but I don't think so.

Ayu has A TON of other factors that make her great, all of which are musical.

I think it's fine to judge a person by their heart and personality...but what I really wish everyone would do was judge the artists by their music first, and personality later.

That would be my two cents on the whole Ayu vs. Britney thing. It seems that in the end, they both have alluring factors that are equally valuable.

[szchow89]

AYUMI!!!!!!!! Well, this is an ayu fan forum so there's really no contest here. lolz.

[ayumixfan]

I find some of these points very bias....

Just because she lipsyncs doesn't mean she cant sing. She was picked for the mickey mouse club for a reason :S ~! At least acknowledge that. And she started from nothing and became big just like ayu did and worked her way up. I'm pretty sure she can sing because i doubt anyone would hire her if she had no vocal abilities.

^How does being smarter make u more of an artist? :S

If I injured my leg, I wouldn't perform either, I think me being able to walk for life is more important personally... I think this proves more of dedication to fans rather than how artistic someone is lol...

I believe that ayumi is a product as well... I think its definitely hypocritical for ayumi to call britney a product... Everyone in the music industry is a product at the start until the very end. Ayu loves rock but she still does pop no matter what. If she wasn't a "product" she would've went straight to rock which is what she loves isntead of releasing singles like days. You can only go so far if you want to stay popular and u'll always have to conform to what people want... making you a product for people to love, listen, buy stuff. Anyways Ayu saying britney is a product doesn't mean anything >_> how is that proof? Its like saying christina doesn't acknowledge ayumi has an artist so now she's not one anymore.

I don't know if this is true but i heard britney co-composes some of her songs too... if this is true than its another reason why she still is an artist. Wait didn't she co-compose one of BoA's songs under B.Spears? or was it just a rumor.

I love how people say Britney uses sex to sell but look a the rule PV =_= Anyways if britney only used sex, she would've died out when PCD debuted >_>. obviously its more than just sex.

And I believe britney does take part in her music more lately. Like she commented on womanizer and why she liked it. Plus britney changed the title of IF you seek amy to that. Like these things show that she has some input in her career and she chooses aspects of it.

I find that people are very bias when it comes to american music on this forum :S just because they aren't the perfect image does not mean they are not an artist. You might like ayumi better but that does not mean britney is now not a credible artist or she should be ranked lower because she's up against ayumi =__="

[Kobayashiwoof]

what a stupid comparison.

They are both totally different types of singers and in differently leagues.

But personal taste, Britney for sure, Ayumi lost her spark years ago.

[StarSUCKER]

Don't forget that Britney's career was built around shock value. She was one of the first teenage artists to really get into that innocent/****ty mix that gave America's parents a collective heart attack (I can't say how Europe felt about it because I honestly don't know). That is MASSIVE publicity. Honestly, she basically brought that trend into the mainstream.

She still tries to be shocking, but recent efforts have just been...well...pathetic. For example, the "If U Seek Amy" gimmick...is that what she has to do now to get attention? Spell out the f-word? Fantastic job, Brit...

Musically, a lot of her songs are catchy--especially the slick, pulsating electronic ones of the past few years--but her lyrics are filthy and more or less cliche by this point (and the dirtiness makes the few that aren't nasty seem bizarre to say the least). There's no sincerity.

That's what I like about Ayu most of all. Sincerity.

[PoetGirl]

alternafan000 says all.

[ayumixfan]

^ she admit her product.... and I said she was a product because she does whatever it does to please the crowd.. and thats what being a product is.... you do what the crowd wants you too which is true. Ayu might've released GUILTY, but she always releases songs that the japanese will want to hear on her albums. She'll never go FULL ON ROCK because she won't sell if she releases led zepplin music. Every celebritiy is a product because they have to conform to what people want even if its not what the envision. Even utada said that she was tired of her career at one point and she wanted to release a different style of music and thats why exodus was created. I'm sorry but every celebrity is a product no matter what. Its not a bad thing, but I mean its true.

Yeah but sex appeal doesn't always sell music. Thats what i'm saying. and I'm saying that to say that using sex is wrong, is silly because even ayu does it sometimes. I'm not saying ayu has a sex appeal o_O

Sure britny doesn't have as much control over her career, but I'm jsut saying she has some :S people make it sound like she does nothing for her career which is wrong. I never said she is as controllive as ayu because thats obviously not true.

Sorry if I Didn't explain some points clearly enough, but i seriously think that people underrate britney as an artist. They make it sound like she's just a brainless doll. I just wanted to prove this point. I never said Britney is JUST as artsy as ayumi or she has more control. I jsut stated that she IS an artist and she should get respect for her music.
You know we might have different ranking for artists and that fine. But I mean some people here speak of britney as in she's famous ONLY because of her management which is totally wrong. Thats why I'm defending her. I love ayu's old stuff and its undeniable that I am was amazing and how self-composing an album with little musical background is great. I didn't insult ayumi in any way in my last post or this post. Ayu is great, but like britney has her accomplishments too and she deserves to be called an artist too.

[love in music]

thumbs up to alternafan000 and zelenk0 for speaking truth