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Old 25th September 2009, 01:44 PM
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The whole bike scene was annoyingly similar, but a side from that nothing else. :S
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Old 25th September 2009, 02:34 PM
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Old 25th September 2009, 03:06 PM
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Old 25th September 2009, 03:20 PM
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IMO Startin' is not a parody of the western music industry, but of a joke about people saying she is to western... like.. "look how western I am! weeee!"xD
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Old 25th September 2009, 04:11 PM
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W00t I always thought it was a common knowledge that Startin' is a little parody of Western pop culture. It parodies Kill Bill, Britney Spears and that some Missy Elliot video of which name I can't get to my head right now. (Work It, I think?)
I thought the same thing! Every time I saw that one part of her in the black dress and hat I thought of Missy Elliot for some reason but I can't remember why; it must be similar to one of her music videos.
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Old 25th September 2009, 04:28 PM
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Haha..knowing that Startin' is a parody makes me LOVE IT MORE!
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Old 25th September 2009, 04:35 PM
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I hate how its so obvious that Ayu is ripping off Britney Spears here.
I thought it was suppose to be a parody...? Because she copied a lot of people, not just Britney...
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Old 25th September 2009, 09:57 PM
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Yeah, I never had a doubt that that video was a parody. I mean come ON, it's so entirely ridiculous!

I do think it's ayu's way of saying "Yeah, sure, I like western stuff, but I'm not NEARLY as bad as I could be about it! Teehee!" to the people who criticize her for being too westernized & taking inspiration from artists like Madonna.
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Old 25th September 2009, 10:37 PM
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Still think that Startin' is a sarcastic video...

About blaming the director... to bad ayu herself said a lot of times that she chooses the way her stuff is going to be done (and this counts for At02 and Dearest too...)
It's obvious that Startin' "copied" Toxic. I noticed it the first time I saw the video, however I always assumed the copying was intentional because Startin' definitely seems like a parody video.
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Old 25th September 2009, 11:26 PM
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It's obvious that Startin' "copied" Toxic. I noticed it the first time I saw the video, however I always assumed the copying was intentional because Startin' definitely seems like a parody video.
Well, I do agree that it's a "copy" (the same way At02 is a low budget DWT and Dearest video is a low budget glittered Drowned World/Substitute for Love video, both from Madonna)
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Old 26th September 2009, 12:13 AM
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I dont even like Britney Spears....but her's seemed more well-made than Ayu's...I wouldn't have seen it like this before...but now seeing the comparison...Ayu's is more like a cheep copy
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One way or another, parody or not, if Ayu did take some of these ideas, she should at least have given credit.

But I'm glad people aren't being biased this time about Ayu... Sometimes Ayu fans can get pretty crazy, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the really really really crazy fans were saying that it was Ayu's first.

Same thing for the uber-popular, crazed-fan magnet Brit, but in this case, fans are right to say she did these concepts first.
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Old 26th September 2009, 12:50 AM
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^ lol how? say "parody ideas came from Britney Spear's Toxic"? I never seen credits for parodies...because most people would just know what the person is making fun of~
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^ You have a point. But seeing as she's a J-Pop artist, and Britney's American... I dunno. I just feel like a little credit could have been given.

But yeah, I see what your saying. Bad example, I know, but: when Miley Cyrus [ugh hate her] made a parody of Madonna's 4 Minutes, called 7 Things, it was plainly obvious. Of course. And I think somewhere she actually stated it was supposed to be a parody. But like, if Ayu was REALLY spoofing with Startin', then it would've been cool to mention that.

I dunno. I'm not trying to make anybody mad here, I hope I'm not. D:
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^7 things is not a parody of 4 minutes o.O
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:26 AM
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It;s funny, it kind of looks like Britney/the director took some influence from Japan/anime etc. It's kind of like Madonna and her asian influences in that tour?
That's pretty damn interesting...

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W00t I always thought it was a common knowledge that Startin' is a little parody of Western pop culture. It parodies Kill Bill, Britney Spears and that some Missy Elliot video of which name I can't get to my head right now. (Work It, I think?)
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:32 AM
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I thought it was common knowledge it was a parody.


@Rainbow: Pommy's right, she doesn't really need to give any credit. People in Japan know who Britney is and know the video's...besides, she can't just come out and say she's making fun of something either because it would make her look bad.

So it's kept ambiguous, but obviously, obvious lol
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Old 26th September 2009, 02:56 AM
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may ayu is just inspired by her... Britney is also a lot inspired by Madonna right??
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Old 26th September 2009, 03:01 AM
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Um, yeah, it's kinda similar, but I knew from the first time I saw it that Startin' was a parody. I don't think parodies can count as a rip-off, right? And I mean, I've actually seen that bike thing a few times (if I remember correctly, they were all Western works, though).
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Old 26th September 2009, 06:18 AM
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Hehe lol. Startin' is too silly to not be a parody. XD I love Startin' PV, It's soooo funny. Makes this silly smile on my lips every time. Its pretty obvious on how Ayu looks in the video too. Her movement and face is great, she's really pulling the parody of.
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