What I hate about most J-Pop fans I meet in real life

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

I am actually looking for away to get into anime more...and actually find more anime theme songs (because they're all really great songs) but I don't have the time. ><

Honestly, I would love to get into anime again too, because I really have a respect for animation...

but it's so hard for me to get into the ones that everyone likes...I just...can't take a lot of anime lol

Even Chobits episodes annoy me. It's like, the story is great, but the effects and music and everything just :/

The only anime I've been able to get into as I'm older is Last Exile.

@poetgirl: that is more annoying...but...it's annoying when you're supposed to be learning about culture, and people think anime automatically encompasses all of that lol

and lol @ dir en grey fangirls I knew many of those at my high school...it was crazy.

[adantatu2]

J-Pop is not just the music for the animes
There are really great diversity of music in Japan, and i love that

[mx3oo]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

Its okay if they aren't bragging about it to others....and then there's the really funny ones who think they look like asians....."well, actually, I think my features look like so and so ___korean idol here___......" And its like....yo....you're white =/ No offense.....Its really kind of sad and delusional how some of these wannabes act. Think JpopYuna minus the false sense of stardom.

The opposite thing happens to me. I'm white, born in Europe in fact, but apparently after people hear that I'm into Asian music and whatnot, they get the impression that I'm Asian, and I have to correct them.

Originally Posted by Tom Punks

I think I've actually met more real j-pop fans than anime music fans though. I even met a guy last year who knew who jpopyuna was.

I don't know who jpopyuna is... ._.

Originally Posted by Yumsushi

I see the OP's point of view and I can agree to most of it, but believe me, nothing is worst than Dir en Grey fangirls...its like you're living on a whole different planet.

I only know of one Dir en grey fan, but she acts completely normal. What are other fangirls like?

[AyUta]

Originally Posted by Love Shine

^You make good points, but I hate J-Pop fans who only know anime songs too. My cousin is like that, and it makes me sick. The worst it when they refuse to listen to any artist that isn't connected to anime in some way. But, that's just me.

That's me too .

[Polyrhythm]

Originally Posted by mx3oo

I don't know who jpopyuna is... ._.

Its okay. She "retired". Now she's Park Sung Mi .....destroying Kpop instead of Jpop

Spoiler for your protection

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[emi♡]

:O She's korean now? omg.

[Yumsushi]

MY EARS!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder, does she ever hear the song after recording it? because if she does and think its acceptable to post then she is a scientific anomaly.

Originally Posted by mx3oo

I only know of one Dir en grey fan, but she acts completely normal. What are other fangirls like?

The scary ones I'm referring to are delusional (think that the members of the band know about them and their 'feelings') and disturbingly obsessive (its Dir en Grey or nothing).

[JackieRos]

Diru is awesome

[love in music]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

Its okay. She "retired". Now she's Park Sung Mi .....destroying Kpop instead of Jpop

Spoiler for your protection

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;_; I thought she did the world a favor and stopped. I feel personally offended by that BoA cover considering that's one of my favorite BoA songs being slaughtered.

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

From what I've scanned in this thread, I'm gonna go with the majority: not a big fan of those who say they like "Japanese music" but in reality just like "anime music".

To me, "anime music" has become pretty tunnel-viewed and focused on the electronic aspect of composition, and it's just very sugary. Of course there's the oddity where it would fit "our realm", but for the most part "anime music" seems much more over-produced than the mainstream music on Oricon charts now.

I'm not saying "anime music" isn't "Japanese music", because it most definitely is, but I consider "anime music" as a sub-genre of "Japanese music"; I'd rather someone say they like anime music rather than Japanese music if all their music comes from anime. I think because I'm one of those "exceptions to the rule" (my brother got me into Japanese music without even touching anime) I think like this, but I'm not gonna "hate" on those who really do faux pas, I think it's unfair to them.

In regards to the Utada-Ayumi-Namie comments, I think anyone who say they listen to Japanese music should mention at least one of those names, it's a travesty if not (I'd include Koda, Otsuka, and Nakashima Mika); it's much like not mentioning any Johnny's boyband, they've also become the core of Japanese music.

Also, enka =/= "J-POP". In any regards. Enka should be mentioned on its own, but I also understand there seems to be a lot of crossovers at the moment, so that line is slowly graying, making it harder to really distinguish between the two genres within a specific artist (e.g. Jero, one could argue alan, etc.).

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Just a few thoughts.

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by JackieRos

Diru is awesome

Do we have on here? lol I'm a huge fan too but i dont think theyre gods gift to mankind.

[Ranma Matsuri]

Originally Posted by kendelle

NEWSFLASH: Anime is Japanese and Japanese pop artists sing these songs, thereby making anime OP and ED songs inclusive of JPOP.

I don't see the problem here. They like music from anime only, so what? *shrug* No reason to be elitist to them just because they haven't diversified their tastes yet.

I eventually got into Jpop via anime music but someone insulting my like for ZARD, Hironobu Kageyama and Field of View would drive me away from ever wanting to become involved in the Jpop fan community.

mte

I'm pretty disappointed reading this thread since yeah, anime was my start and I stayed there for a while but I eventually branched out because well, the music was too good to resist. I'm glad I was in my own little bubble (as in not communicating with J-pop fans) when I did it though. If I had run into someone telling me just because I only knew BoA and DAI from the anime I loved (as if the reason they do song tie-in's in the first place WASN'T for promo ), that I wasn't a "real" J-pop fan and didn't *really* like J-pop music, knowing my temper that would've been an immediate turn off for me. So J-pop for me at one point, was the anime themes I used to hear at the end of an episode... then I discovered the good ol' internet. Quite frankly, I don't see how that's much different from being a fan of only mainstream J-pop artists, or just idols or just J-rock bands (but those people still get to call themselves "J-music fans" right?).

*leaves this thread*

[happiholic★]

Originally Posted by captain-kawaii123

Same here! There are people prancing around saying, "Oh, I'm so otaku, I love Japan and anime and manga...and anime...and manga..." And they think that because they know "KAWAII" and "SUGOI" that they are instantly Japanese language experts... And they think Japan is made of anime and manga. They don't love Japan, they just love anime and manga... I've met a few people like this and they are so annoying!!! (-_-)"

But on the plus side, I've converted a few "otakus" to liking Ayu, Perfume, Hikki, Ai-chan, etc. Hope isn't always lost with them!

I hate it when "otakus" insert Japanese whenever they can. Like, when I was in high school I knew some "otakus" by association and if I did something that they would have to say "thank you" for it was always "arigato gozaimasuuuuuuuuu". And I really dislike people who are "so into Japan" they disassociate themselves with anything from their home country. Like, will only eat with chopsticks, only date/hangout with Asian people, hate non-Japanese celebrities. I could go on. I tend not to hang out with people who like anything about Japan, because I've just given up. Although, now I've become the "otaku" because all the crazy Japanophiles make anyone who likes anything about Japan look crazy.

[DA1SUK1DAY01691]

Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri

mte

I'm pretty disappointed reading this thread since yeah, anime was my start and I stayed there for a while but I eventually branched out because well, the music was too good to resist. I'm glad I was in my own little bubble (as in not communicating with J-pop fans) when I did it though. If I had run into someone telling me just because I only knew BoA and DAI from the anime I loved (as if the reason they do song tie-in's in the first place WASN'T for promo ), that I wasn't a "real" J-pop fan and didn't *really* like J-pop music, knowing my temper that would've been an immediate turn off for me. So J-pop for me at one point, was the anime themes I used to hear at the end of an episode... then I discovered the good ol' internet. Quite frankly, I don't see how that's much different from being a fan of only mainstream J-pop artists, or just idols or just J-rock bands (but those people still get to call themselves "J-music fans" right?).

I totally get where you're coming from.

The general tone I'm getting, and essentially perpetuating myself, is people who center their whole library around anime themes, and don't even bother to go off and find other sources-- that's what's irritating.

Personally, I think BoA was just a fad (especially at the way she's been handling her career; it doesn't seem like she's rooted anywhere at the moment), but certainly DAI is one of the best Japanese artists in modern history. Fluctuating popularity, yes, but certainly influential.

At least you've found the internet, especially a great forum like this; I feel like no other forum is actually as nice and as giving like this forum. It's great to find/have things before their actual release date, and many of the people here are nice, as well. So don't worry, you're cool.

[YuriChan]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

I am actually looking for away to get into anime more...and actually find more anime theme songs (because they're all really great songs) but I don't have the time. >< The people that annoy me the most are the wannabe asians....its okay if you want to try other people's cultures but its not okay when you keep bragging about it and acting like you were born into it....like some people at school show off about using chopsticks in the cafeteria to their friends....and then they say things like "Oh, its not that hard. I'm a natural. Maybe you guys don't have the natural talent" o_o Its ridiculous.....and other people are like...I had "kbbq last night! Bibimbap at the cafeteria tonight! I'm practicically a Korean!"......and "I cook with real Chinese soy sauce." and I just want to slap them them across the head and say that ......Kikoman is a Japanese brand first of all and that second of all, its made in the US >< Some people think walking into a 99 Ranch market and shopping there makes them Asian locals. Its okay if they aren't bragging about it to others....and then there's the really funny ones who think they look like asians....."well, actually, I think my features look like so and so ___korean idol here___......" And its like....yo....you're white =/ No offense.....Its really kind of sad and delusional how some of these wannabes act. Think JpopYuna minus the false sense of stardom.

I'mmm... gulity of acting like a weebo! Back in high school, of course! ^^;; My brother jump started me on my J-POP drive (even though it was mostly anime music). Eventually, I slowly got around to listening to REAL J-POP! XDD That was in high school too (at my MOST weebo moment)!

[Me, Myself & Music]

Originally Posted by Polyrhythm

Its okay. She "retired". Now she's Park Sung Mi .....destroying Kpop instead of Jpop

Spoiler for your protection

Spoiler:

OMG she's alive...and korean

Does anyone remember this masterpiece?



I'm slowly moving back to the topic. My friends are exactly like that, with the whole sugoi, kawaii, nande, doushde, baka, basically using every word like they're going out of style, and it's not even recent, it's been since I've known them (they're brother and sister and I've known them for like 5 years), they buy manga, watch anime and act like they know stuff about j-pop when the only songs they have or know are from anime. It erks me to my spirit. But it just makes me thankful for my other friend who's literally like obsessed with j-pop, if she wasn't around I would've gone crazy by know

[mx3oo]

Now I wish I still didn't know who JpopYuna is. GET OUT OF MY HEAD YOU MUSIC RUINER!

[Polyrhythm]

^at least you weren't here when she covered every single Ayu song as they came out

[YuriChan]

^X_X; She killed Kumi's BUT for me... At least for a while! ^^;

[ILoveGeniuses]

Originally Posted by pommy48

All of the time X_X...Most of the people that I meet are just like your experience~ They listen to only the Naruto soundtracks and call themselves J-pop fanatics

I also hate it when people call themselves real anime fans and yet all they know is like pokemon and inuyasha type of stuff.

Oh, and I've also had a person say "I'm a Jpop fan" and then when i asked the person what they liked, she started going on about the theme songs to Sailormoon, Chobits and CardCaptor Sakura.

Another thing I find is I got talking to this Chinese girl the other day. She knew like Wonder Girls and BoA when i mentioned them, but didn't know Big Bang, DBSK, SNSD etc. She even had never heard of Ayu, but claimed she moved over here from HK recently. Then told me she only listens to Cantonese and Mandarin singers for the most part.

Oh, and even more annoying, my roommates are Chinese and know ALL sorts of really old Chinese singers, but up 'til recently of constantly drilling them in their heads hadn't heard of more recent ones like Jolin Tsai, Leehom Wang or even Jay Chou.