a-nation 10th anniversary for Life information thread [II] - Page 4

maikaru · #1 29th August 2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

She can do whatever she wants about her music... You are assuming she is expecting to rock the charts forever while we have no idea of how does she see her career...

Matsutoya Yumi and tons of other popular musicians all over the world already did something similar and guided their careers by what they felt like doing...

Ayumi doesn't need more money... there's no record on the Japanese industry left for her to break... I wouldn't be surprised if FIVE was the begining of an Ayu that doesn't care about her fans or the industry or the media expectations...

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About she not closing A-Nation... it can be a lot of different things, from fall on her prestige to schedule conflict (both hers and Tohoshinki's)

Except, she recently mentioned on twitter that she DOESN'T have the freedom that all you guys keep saying she does. The top hats at Avex told her no to something on the setlist, and she couldn't perform the setlist that she wanted. I don't think that's the definition of freedom.

Tom Punks · #2 29th August 2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru

Except, she recently mentioned on twitter that she DOESN'T have the freedom that all you guys keep saying she does.

Yeah, I have to agree with this. Look at Love songs. I find it hard to believe that Ayu was working with TK because she wanted to when he obviously owes/owed avex a LOT of money and was apparently composing songs for a bunch of artists at avex at the time.

SunshineSlayer · #3 29th August 2011, 06:27 PM

I could see Avex putting X-Japan last instead of Ayu. But anything other than that just doesn't make sense.

Very cool though that X, Gackt, and Ayumi all performed at the same show.

sanzo2011 · #4 29th August 2011, 06:49 PM

Ayu looks so cute in these photos!^^!

ExodusUK · #5 29th August 2011, 07:42 PM

X-Japan are on EMI, Avex wouldn't give top billing to their festival to a non-Avex act no matter who it is.

njanjayrp · #6 29th August 2011, 08:43 PM

^ It seems that JUNO was originally not allowed to perform, I am not even sure how she got him to sing with her at all.

Aderianu · #7 29th August 2011, 08:49 PM

Greatful days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kSz...layer_embedded

rakeru · #8 29th August 2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu

Greatful days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kSz...layer_embedded

Thanks!

Who was it that went after Ayu?

jbrat2219 · #9 29th August 2011, 09:49 PM

I don't think it's that Ayu completely doesn't care what fans want I just don't think it is a powerful factor in her decision making when it comes to her music and/or her performances.

Mirrorcle Monster · #10 29th August 2011, 10:15 PM

If FIVE is the beginning of Ayu doing what she wants those are the last days of my ayu fandom

truehappiness · #11 29th August 2011, 10:22 PM

I think FIVE was a mix of what Ayu wanted to do and what avex wanted (a release)~

I personally think it's a step in the right direction, but she just needs to get her foot out of the medium tempo pothole.

As for what Ayu wants and what fans want... isn't one of the reasons why a lot of people love Ayu because she does what she wants (to the best of her ability anyway, definitely not the case with avex-nation vs. ayu-nation) and takes risks even if they might not be smart ones? It might seem a bit stubborn, but I think her unwavering determination or whatever you might call it is one of the reasons for her success in the last 13-14 years.

Yes, her fans are her customers and in the end they are the ones who will decide her 'fate' in the industry, but at the same time I don't think she has to heed fans' every word so long as she is simply being honest to herself and creating work that she believes is good. The minute that Ayu creates something just for the sake of pleasing fans (dedicating =/= pleasing) would put her down a few pegs in my book as that is something I doubt she has ever done during her career.

njanjayrp · #12 29th August 2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavenly Zerase

If FIVE is the beginning of Ayu doing what she wants those are the last days of my ayu fandom

Some fan you are... I can complain every now and then, but if you are going to diss her off over a couple of songs...

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think FIVE was a mix of what Ayu wanted to do and what avex wanted (a release)~

I personally think it's a step in the right direction, but she just needs to get her foot out of the medium tempo pothole.

I hope ANother song isn't what Ayu wanted, as that would be everything, but what I consider the RIGHT direction

The rest of the songs aren't really new direction wise.

jbrat2219 · #13 29th August 2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think FIVE was a mix of what Ayu wanted to do and what avex wanted (a release)~

I personally think it's a step in the right direction, but she just needs to get her foot out of the medium tempo pothole.

As for what Ayu wants and what fans want... isn't one of the reasons why a lot of people love Ayu because she does what she wants (to the best of her ability anyway, definitely not the case with avex-nation vs. ayu-nation) and takes risks even if they might not be smart ones? It might seem a bit stubborn, but I think her unwavering determination or whatever you might call it is one of the reasons for her success in the last 13-14 years.

Yes, her fans are her customers and in the end they are the ones who will decide her 'fate' in the industry, but at the same time I don't think she has to heed fans' every word so long as she is simply being honest to herself and creating work that she believes is good. The minute that Ayu creates something just for the sake of pleasing fans (dedicating =/= pleasing) would put her down a few pegs in my book as that is something I doubt she has ever done during her career.

I totally agree.

truehappiness · #14 29th August 2011, 10:33 PM

They aren't, but I don't think it was an attempt to step into new territory for Ayu. I don't really think she's done that with any of her albums with the exception of NEXT LEVEL anyway, and that didn't exactly fare so well. (when it was released anyway)

On the topic of a-nation, I wonder how the DVD is going to be divided up since there are a LOT of high profile artists this time around...

njanjayrp · #15 29th August 2011, 10:38 PM

^ Oh well xD It's alright then.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

They aren't, but I don't think it was an attempt to step into new territory for Ayu. I don't really think she's done that with any of her albums with the exception of NEXT LEVEL anyway, and that didn't exactly fare so well. (when it was released anyway)

On the topic of a-nation, I wonder how the DVD is going to be divided up since there are a LOT of high profile artists this time around...

That's how I feel as well.

Hmm I am guessing only the avex artists will remain and the rest we'll prolly never see?

Andrenekoi · #16 29th August 2011, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp

^ Oh well xD It's alright then.

That's how I feel as well.

Hmm I am guessing only the avex artists will remain and the rest we'll prolly never see?

well, avex DID release an orchestral album with Hikki tracks on it... Actually, only Hikki tracks on it

njanjayrp · #17 30th August 2011, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

well, avex DID release an orchestral album with Hikki tracks on it... Actually, only Hikki tracks on it

This isn't the first time avex is having guest artist perform at a-nation, correct me if I'm wrong, but the DVD has never contained all the avex artists performances let alone the guest ones.

Mirrorcle Monster · #18 29th August 2011, 10:34 PM

^^ Its not because of the songs, I guess I explained it bad. I always loved ANother Song and Why... is beautiful. I also think that seeing Ayu collaborate with other artists is refreshing. Is just that there is always some drama around her, she has an attitude that I don't like. And her new songs hardly have the feeling that they used to

Mai82Go · #19 29th August 2011, 10:43 PM

The reasons for her being only second to last sound more serious than I thought. And somehow it makes my love for Ayu even stronger (if that's even possible) ! I support her through the bad and good times. Go Ayu!

truehappiness · #20 29th August 2011, 10:52 PM

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Is just that there is always some drama around her, she has an attitude that I don't like. And her new songs hardly have the feeling that they used to

There's been drama around Ayu for aaaaaaaaaaggggees, lol. I think it was just normally overshadowed by her constant releases in the past so it didn't seem as bad. Her attitude IMO, is probably appropriate for what's been going on. You can't really expect -Ayu- to be submissive towards avex, right? She's going to put up a fight as she always does.

And about that feeling... I think that really depends on the listener. I feel like most of her songs have that timeless quality (well, since LOVEppears maybe since ASFXX is stuck in the 80s despite being released in the 90s) and have always been rather good songs but sometimes by comparison to her own music, she doesn't measure up which is understandable since she set a REALLY high bar for herself.