'M(A)DE IN JAPAN' out June 29th + 2015 TA TOUR (TA ver.)

[CeReSu]

Preorder links for CDJAPAN:

► CD ONLY
► CD/DVD
► CD/Blu-ray

[4Seasons]

I'm very tempted to buy and support the album (my first purchase since LOVE again), but the release is so far away, I'll see how I feel in a month. Gonna wait for the covers and concert first.

Also, YesAsia and CDJapan don't count towards official sales or something anymore, right?

So maybe it'd be better to wait for a digital download anyway. Hmmm.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by 4Seasons

I'm very tempted to buy and support the album (my first purchase since LOVE again), but the release is so far away, I'll see how I feel in a month. Gonna wait for the covers and concert first.

Also, YesAsia and CDJapan don't count towards official sales or something anymore, right?

So maybe it'd be better to wait for a digital download anyway. Hmmm.

They do not. Basically, only TeamAyu / mu-mo sales will count.

[freedreamer]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

They do not. Basically, only TeamAyu / mu-mo sales will count.

O wow! When did CDJapan sales stop being taken into account? Or was it all along :X

[rainbow_smile]

Originally Posted by freedreamer

O wow! When did CDJapan sales stop being taken into account? Or was it all along :X

A few years ago, because Oricon decided to stop counting CDs that are shipped overseas.

[Ryusei]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

They do not. Basically, only TeamAyu / mu-mo sales will count.

Actually mu-mo/fanclub doesn't count for oricon either, because it's owned by a company (avex) or smth.. hence why none of nissy's singles charted, or koda kumi's dance in the rain etc.

[truehappiness]

Uhh sometime in like 2012 or 2013?

[njanjayrp]

Curious to see the translations, especially the first three tracks.

[Gustavopc]

I thought the physical version of the album was going to to include the CDL rather than thr TA Tour, so that's a really positive surprise to me! Too bad I'm short on money

[4Seasons]

Ummm. Shame. I might try mu-mo then if the covers and stuff are good. I think they have international shipping now.

I'd really love the TA concert, though. I wonder what the track list will be! I hope Pray is on it.

[truehappiness]

It's the finale Tokyo show, but I don't think Pray was during that one.

setlist of "tour final" that was recorded for DVD/BD
01. Sorrows
02. Startin’
03. UNITE!
04. Last minute
05. Heartplace
06. Days
07. beloved
08. Summer diary
09. part of Me (acapella)
10. HEAVEN
11. XOXO
12. Lelio
13. Sparkle
14. Feel the love
15. You&Me
16. Love song
encore
17. diary
18. Boys & Girls
19. The Show Must Go On
20. Replace
double encore
21.MY ALL

[truehappiness]

Wouldn't that mean concert venue sales would also be completely void? Odd.

[Ryusei]

Yup... Which is why oricon isn't too accurate anymore.. they exclude: concert venue sales, corporate owned shops (is that the expression?) like mu-mo, sony's equivalent of mu-mo no idea what the name is, digital sales ofc, music cards (which is why almost nobody does them anymore now), fanclub sales etc. Pretty much all they count is japanese CD stores (in Japan) and that's it.

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by Ryusei

Yup... Which is why oricon isn't too accurate anymore.. they exclude: concert venue sales, corporate owned shops (is that the expression?) like mu-mo, sony's equivalent of mu-mo no idea what the name is, digital sales ofc, music cards (which is why almost nobody does them anymore now), fanclub sales etc. Pretty much all they count is japanese CD stores (in Japan) and that's it.

Are you sure they don't count mu-mo sales?
Cause if so, official sales of some artists don't make sense... e.g. Kuu' s last two albums, which had FC versions, sold with normal editions according to Souncscan only about half of the offical sales. Where is fhe other half comig from, if not from FC and music card versions, which were sold through mu-mo (for music cards before they stopped counting)?

[Ryusei]

Originally Posted by Corvina

Are you sure they don't count mu-mo sales?
Cause if so, official sales of some artists don't make sense... e.g. Kuu' s last two albums, which had FC versions, sold with normal editions according to Souncscan only about half of the offical sales. Where is fhe other half comig from, if not from FC and music card versions, which were sold through mu-mo (for music cards before they stopped counting)?

I'm pretty sure mu-mo doesn't count because it's owned by avex idk the exact reason but I have read that in quite a few places. bon voyage and walk of my life were both released before music cards stopped counting, so maybe from there. Soundscan has always been weird too IMO because sometimes the numbers on soundscan were higher than the ones on oricon. e.g. Perfume's star train single sold about 65'000 copies in the first week according to oricon but soundscan said it was over 80'000... so idk really the japanese counting system for records is a giant mess

[//ABEST]

Originally Posted by Ryusei

I'm pretty sure mu-mo doesn't count because it's owned by avex idk the exact reason but I have read that in quite a few places. bon voyage and walk of my life were both released before music cards stopped counting, so maybe from there. Soundscan has always been weird too IMO because sometimes the numbers on soundscan were higher than the ones on oricon. e.g. Perfume's star train single sold about 65'000 copies in the first week according to oricon but soundscan said it was over 80'000... so idk really the japanese counting system for records is a giant mess

maybe it counts sales which oricon leaves outside?

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by Ryusei

I'm pretty sure mu-mo doesn't count because it's owned by avex idk the exact reason but I have read that in quite a few places. bon voyage and walk of my life were both released before music cards stopped counting, so maybe from there. Soundscan has always been weird too IMO because sometimes the numbers on soundscan were higher than the ones on oricon. e.g. Perfume's star train single sold about 65'000 copies in the first week according to oricon but soundscan said it was over 80'000... so idk really the japanese counting system for records is a giant mess

Hm, yeah, but avex sold music cards only through mu-mo as well, not elsewhere, didn't they?
It is a bit of a mess.

[Ryusei]

Originally Posted by Corvina

Hm, yeah, but avex sold music cards only through mu-mo as well, not elsewhere, didn't they?
It is a bit of a mess.

aaaaah I mistook it sorry, Soundscan didn't count mu-mo and fanclub stuff but oricon does. Soundscan gave a nice insight about how many people order from the fanclub and stuff tho because you could look at the difference of sales.

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by Ryusei

I'm pretty sure mu-mo doesn't count because it's owned by avex idk the exact reason but I have read that in quite a few places. bon voyage and walk of my life were both released before music cards stopped counting, so maybe from there. Soundscan has always been weird too IMO because sometimes the numbers on soundscan were higher than the ones on oricon. e.g. Perfume's star train single sold about 65'000 copies in the first week according to oricon but soundscan said it was over 80'000... so idk really the japanese counting system for records is a giant mess

Oricon counts how many copies were sold to the final consumer. Soundscan, if I'm not wrong, counts how much copies were sold to stores.

[spanishfan]

So oricon might be left only as a professional index for store owners to know how much a release would be sell at their shop and marketing workers (?)