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View Poll Results: Highest seller?
Koda Kumi Burakku Chelly 37 43.53%
Nakashima Mika THE END 3 3.53%
Hamasaki Ayumi Sikkeretto 45 52.94%
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Old 14th November 2006, 09:01 AM
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Deric, you forgot Koi no Tsubomi. (And... well, the other half of ~12 Singles Collection~, but... err... do those count?)

I want new material from all three. And all of it better be good.
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Old 14th November 2006, 09:03 AM
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Well, Mika's MUSIC sold 500k..

And then her BEST went on to sell like twice that.. so.. maybe a best does matter? D:
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Oops, the fact that she released pretty quick made me forget all the semi-old ones.

So maybe if BEST doubled MUSIC, then THE END doubles BEST?! If only.
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This is a tough quetion for me......probably btw mink and Ayu....but kumi is somehow getting a lot of fame all of a sudden.

*One question.....WHERE DID KUMI GET ALL THIS FAME FROM BESIDES REAL EMOTIONS AND 1000 NO KOTOBA?????? IMO, some of her songs sucks for me not to get into her music and there a lot of Kumi fans on her which is a little irratating......... What's up with that??!!??
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They happen to like her music. There's nothing wrong with Ku fans being on an Ayu forum. I'm a fan of both women.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the release of two consecutive compilation albums helping her out - I think LOVE & HONEY with Cutie Honey gave her a boost, but BEST~first things~ really skyrocketed her career, and the momentum's been kept up with the ~12 Singles Collection~, tons of promotion, quality music (in my ears, anyway, and remember: One man's trash is another man's treasure) - her image probably isn't hurting things either, but I think that if the music weren't any good, her sexy image wouldn't be doing jack to move records.

Reason why I'm a fan? Personally, I love her music. Before secret, that's a different story. Still pretty good, but not exceptional, but those who like her early work - nothing wrong with that. But she's put out a lot of stuff that sounds great to me. Music I love listening to.

People sometimes act like Kuu doesn't deserve to or isn't allowed to have any fans, which is selfish. Don't like her, fine, but let US like her.

Besides, this... is a sub-forum for discussion of Asian artists. Kuu happens to be one - a very popular Asian artist too.

I never got the competition thing anyway. They're on the same label. Avex does not care about any competition. Ayu and Ku probably don't either - do you see them being pushed to sell against each other? No, they sell alongside each other. Competition within the same label is pointless. Competition between labels is pointless.

Can't the two release whatever and have their own fulfilling, happy careers without all the mud-throwing and catfights between their fans? It's... very immature.
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Old 14th November 2006, 10:13 PM
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Yeah, read exploding's post for the reason.

Cutie Honey really helped her a lot, and then BEST ~first things~ cemented her in the hearts of casual music listeners. Since then, all her singles have either gone gold or platinum.
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Old 14th November 2006, 11:13 PM
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It was first with real Emotion, then she returned to being unknown for a year until Cutie Honey came along. Then her sales started to rise with Kiseki. secret was released 5 months after Kiseki and her popularity continued to shoot upwards (I think it outsold all her previous 3 studio albums in just 2 weeks). Butterfly kept her career high (as did her other 2 BEST ~first things~ singles). BEST ~first things~ it greatly affected her career, popularity and sales enormously as it outsold secret in (less than) 1 week. Then came the 12 singles/BEST ~second session~, which attracted even more fans. And her 4x Black Cherry singles attracted fans (while maybe losing some) and kept her popularity up.

Her popularity has kept on going up for like ~2 years now, and it was kind of gradual and it wasn't like: unknown pre ~first things~ => unstoppable post ~first things~...
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They happen to like her music. There's nothing wrong with Ku fans being on an Ayu forum. I'm a fan of both women.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the release of two consecutive compilation albums helping her out - I think LOVE & HONEY with Cutie Honey gave her a boost, but BEST~first things~ really skyrocketed her career, and the momentum's been kept up with the ~12 Singles Collection~, tons of promotion, quality music (in my ears, anyway, and remember: One man's trash is another man's treasure) - her image probably isn't hurting things either, but I think that if the music weren't any good, her sexy image wouldn't be doing jack to move records.

Reason why I'm a fan? Personally, I love her music. Before secret, that's a different story. Still pretty good, but not exceptional, but those who like her early work - nothing wrong with that. But she's put out a lot of stuff that sounds great to me. Music I love listening to.

People sometimes act like Kuu doesn't deserve to or isn't allowed to have any fans, which is selfish. Don't like her, fine, but let US like her.

Besides, this... is a sub-forum for discussion of Asian artists. Kuu happens to be one - a very popular Asian artist too.

I never got the competition thing anyway. They're on the same label. Avex does not care about any competition. Ayu and Ku probably don't either - do you see them being pushed to sell against each other? No, they sell alongside each other. Competition within the same label is pointless. Competition between labels is pointless.

Can't the two release whatever and have their own fulfilling, happy careers without all the mud-throwing and catfights between their fans? It's... very immature.
BRAVO for your post!

i always don't see how kuu and ayu are rival, i see that as friendly competitors, it's like, 'okay! since ayu did so and so, i must not be worse then her. i must work hard and......' then the same goes for ayu, she will work harder to go even further.
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^^Thats more like an essay. Nevertheless, well done for your opinion, totally agree.
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Probably it will be a fight between Secret and Black Cherry. I doubt Mika's album will sell as much as them.
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They happen to like her music. There's nothing wrong with Ku fans being on an Ayu forum. I'm a fan of both women.

Perhaps there's something to be said for the release of two consecutive compilation albums helping her out - I think LOVE & HONEY with Cutie Honey gave her a boost, but BEST~first things~ really skyrocketed her career, and the momentum's been kept up with the ~12 Singles Collection~, tons of promotion, quality music (in my ears, anyway, and remember: One man's trash is another man's treasure) - her image probably isn't hurting things either, but I think that if the music weren't any good, her sexy image wouldn't be doing jack to move records.

Reason why I'm a fan? Personally, I love her music. Before secret, that's a different story. Still pretty good, but not exceptional, but those who like her early work - nothing wrong with that. But she's put out a lot of stuff that sounds great to me. Music I love listening to.

People sometimes act like Kuu doesn't deserve to or isn't allowed to have any fans, which is selfish. Don't like her, fine, but let US like her.

Besides, this... is a sub-forum for discussion of Asian artists. Kuu happens to be one - a very popular Asian artist too.

I never got the competition thing anyway. They're on the same label. Avex does not care about any competition. Ayu and Ku probably don't either - do you see them being pushed to sell against each other? No, they sell alongside each other. Competition within the same label is pointless. Competition between labels is pointless.

Can't the two release whatever and have their own fulfilling, happy careers without all the mud-throwing and catfights between their fans? It's... very immature.
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Btw, I'm really surprised people made a big fuss over 'shikureto' writing, while they ignored 'Burakku Chelly'.

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Old 16th November 2006, 11:43 AM
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Hamasaki Ayumi Sikkeretto of course!

but deep in my heart, i think koda kumi will sell more
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This is a tough quetion for me......probably btw mink and Ayu....but kumi is somehow getting a lot of fame all of a sudden.

*One question.....WHERE DID KUMI GET ALL THIS FAME FROM BESIDES REAL EMOTIONS AND 1000 NO KOTOBA?????? IMO, some of her songs sucks for me not to get into her music and there a lot of Kumi fans on her which is a little irratating......... What's up with that??!!??
read wikipedia... your reaction is quite immature
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read wikipedia... your reaction is quite immature
Yeah, your right but that's how I feel. *Sorry all kumi fans for my immature comment!!!*
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Just found out KinKi Kids will go up against Mika. I wonder if the NANA tie-in will help Mika get the #1 spot. I think it's going to be another close race for KinKi.

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KinKi's "H ALBUM" 1st week = 245,681
Mika's "MUSIC" 1st week = 231,521
I think there's no chance of Mika's winning for Johnny's. I really think they manipulate the charts for some of their acts, like Kinki Kids (because of the #1 streak and all) because they always ends up winning with a very small difference.
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Old 22nd November 2006, 11:20 AM
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I'm going to say Hamasaki's Secret because I haven't heard a lot of the tracks for her album, since she's only had two singles, as opposed to Kumi's. I've heard a good sum of her album tracks from her singles and so far from what I've heard, I don't really care for any of them, except for Cherry Girl perhaps.

As for Nakashima's Nana album, most of the songs have been on the singles so we've heard a good majority of them already. I like more of the songs of hers than the ones I've heard from Kumi this year. I'm starting to dislike Kumi because of all the rabid fans and the fighting that's occuring between Ayu and Kumi, not to mention that her releases have been really lacking this year.
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I think there's no chance of Mika's winning for Johnny's. I really think they manipulate the charts for some of their acts, like Kinki Kids (because of the #1 streak and all) because they always ends up winning with a very small difference.
Honestly, if Mika's first week was so low back then, how can she expect to beat out Johnny's? D:
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Old 22nd November 2006, 01:36 PM
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^The power of NANA?
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^I think another reason Glamourous sky was also pretty successful because it was composed by a high-profiled artist, Hyde.

Is she acting in Nana still?
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Old 23rd November 2006, 02:10 AM
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^Yep. In NANA 2
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