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Old 21st December 2006, 01:38 AM
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those pictures look like more than 50ppl
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Old 21st December 2006, 01:41 AM
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Well... in U$S it ain't that much....
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Old 21st December 2006, 01:49 AM
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well i wanna shop like ayu too ... - ____ -
i'll just go to the store & say "i'll have whatever ayu have" XDDD
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Old 21st December 2006, 01:49 AM
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Old 21st December 2006, 02:17 AM
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Well... in U$S it ain't that much....
Well 50k is still a lot especially since it was over a 2hr period...
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Old 21st December 2006, 02:36 AM
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Too much money it's such a waste T.T She should donate some money not spend so much everytime
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Old 21st December 2006, 02:45 AM
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Cool? That's not cool, that's freaking scary. People who spend that much money on clothes, shoes and all that crap they don't really need, especially if they do that in such a short time, they've obviously lost the contact with the real world. Yes, she's a successful entertainer, so it's understandable and very clear what it is like that, but that doesn't mean it's anywhere near fine - or 'cool' for that matter.
You can say I know nothing about the society in Japan, but I dare to think she's probably a good example of how the Japanese percept the world around them and how they feel in it - they're obviously very simple minded materialists. Even she herself admited so many times she never actually had anything like dreams, expectations or plans for future - which is how vast manjority of the Japanese feel like - and where she is right know is basically by accident.
This really makes me feel awkward when thinking about all the nice stuff she writes in her lyrics, all the vocal skills she has and all the good looks - it's all by accident. She's the absolute "happened-to-have-it-all" phenomena of modern Japan.

That's the most fascinating thing.

The worst thing is - she seems to be nothing beyond that.
Even before she was a star though, she said she liked clothes and shoes.. :\
Japan purchases 45% of all boutique-y goods [GUCCI / Louis Vuitton / etc..] so, I imagine that all Japanese people try to buy such luxurious goods when possible.

I mean, you've seen the dresses she's worn in her magazine shoots right? They're like six-seven figures in yen, which imo, is a TON for a simple dress.. but then again, this is Ayu. I think she might buy 3-5 of a certain outfit in like, different colors for lives and public appearances, because in the making of 1LOVE, she's wearing an average sweatsuit-thing..

[and I really don't think she bought too many goods, just.. really expensive ones.]

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Too much money it's such a waste T.T She should donate some money not spend so much everytime
I really don't think it's a 'waste' necessarily, since Ayu is a shopper, and has been since she was a teen. :p
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I hate it when people say that spending loads of money on branded clothes and luxury-stuff is a waste of money.. I mean. It's not.. and even if it is; it's her money to waste. Besides; it's good for the economy AND it's obviously fun to do and cool to have... =) Go Ayu!
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Hotels sure are expensive. o_o
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Even before she was a star though, she said she liked clothes and shoes.. :\
Japan purchases 45% of all boutique-y goods [GUCCI / Louis Vuitton / etc..] so, I imagine that all Japanese people try to buy such luxurious goods when possible.

I mean, you've seen the dresses she's worn in her magazine shoots right? They're like six-seven figures in yen, which imo, is a TON for a simple dress.. but then again, this is Ayu. I think she might buy 3-5 of a certain outfit in like, different colors for lives and public appearances, because in the making of 1LOVE, she's wearing an average sweatsuit-thing..

[and I really don't think she bought too many goods, just.. really expensive ones.]



I really don't think it's a 'waste' necessarily, since Ayu is a shopper, and has been since she was a teen. :p
Yeah and it isn't a good thing, she spent all her idol's money to buy things she will wear only one time and if she didnt become a singer I know exactly what she would do now because of her waste of money.

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I hate it when people say that spending loads of money on branded clothes and luxury-stuff is a waste of money.. I mean. It's not.. and even if it is; it's her money to waste. Besides; it's good for the economy AND it's obviously fun to do and cool to have... =) Go Ayu!
It's not a waste? artists that spend too much and go proud of it are just materliastic robots without any pursue of the future. She always say she doesnt want to think about the future and life the present, that's a very bad thing, there are people who are dying because they have really NO money and people like Ayu who have a lot and waste them when they can help A LOT of people.
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O_O Wow! That's loads of money! I wish I could shop like that, I'd pay off college easily. XD

And as for those who are arguing/trying to prove their point, I'll just say this (and this is my opinion, folks):

Ayu has been working hard for 8 years, she's earned that money. Let her spend it and have some fun, for Pete's sake! If I were her, I'd go bonkers from the work she has to do everyday.
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Even before she was a star though, she said she liked clothes and shoes.. :\
Japan purchases 45% of all boutique-y goods [GUCCI / Louis Vuitton / etc..] so, I imagine that all Japanese people try to buy such luxurious goods when possible.
Umm... not really sure how to reply, becouse you're basically confirming what I said, I didn't say she didn't like clothes/shoes before, and statistics about how much of the revenue of the luxurious brands comes from Japan also confirms my theories about the Japanese society.
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I mean, you've seen the dresses she's worn in her magazine shoots right? They're like six-seven figures in yen, which imo, is a TON for a simple dress.. but then again, this is Ayu. I think she might buy 3-5 of a certain outfit in like, different colors for lives and public appearances, because in the making of 1LOVE, she's wearing an average sweatsuit-thing..
I bet most of magazine clothes aren't her clothes, especially when she's like 'changing style' or going for something like that WE MEN session. I think she rarely wears her own stuff for magazine shots and even more rarely buys anything solely for such purpose.

One thing I do have to admit though, is that she indeed appears in simple clothes when she's not doing public performances, like during all the off-shots, for example. It is absolutely possible she rarely goes for such buying sprees becouse she doesn't need all that stuff on daily basis, so when there's an opportunity to get some things, she takes adventage of it (thus so much money in such a short time).
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I really don't think it's a 'waste' necessarily, since Ayu is a shopper, and has been since she was a teen. :p
Come on, just becouse you're spending money on something since you've been young doesn't mean you're not wasting them...


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I hate it when people say that spending loads of money on branded clothes and luxury-stuff is a waste of money.. I mean. It's not.. and even if it is; it's her money to waste. Besides; it's good for the economy AND it's obviously fun to do and cool to have... =) Go Ayu!
It's problematic... the question is, do you need that stuff to live? If you don't, that's when it's called luxury... If you're spending money on things you don't really need, it doesn't have to be a waste - indeed. I don't like that word, since what wasting is to one person, doesn't have to be wasting to someone else... but when luxurious good are the major part of your spendings... are they really that important so that buying still makes much sense?...

And no, it's not really something especially good for economy... I mean... most of that stuff is way overpriced and sold for prices that are way higher then actual production costs - so that the designers can make big bucks. I think most of the money go to the designers' pockets, not really speeding up China's economy.
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Old 21st December 2006, 07:32 PM
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I wonder if everybody here was granted millions of dollars.

What would they do with it?

Of course donate it all to the poor, needy, and the goodness of mankind.

Money isn't an object to worry about. It comes and goes. You have it or you don't. There's no point holding on to millions. Money is made to be spent.

Plus, we are the ones who support this, don't we?
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Umm... not really sure how to reply, becouse you're basically confirming what I said, I didn't say she didn't like clothes/shoes before, and statistics about how much of the revenue of the luxurious brands comes from Japan also confirms my theories about the Japanese society..

Well, think of it this way:

You buy one expensive item that will last longer (maybe), at least you save the globe by not buying hundreds of cheap ones that will go in the trash in one month. It's a lot more friendly towards the environment if everyone instead of spending £ 100 on H&M each month would save up for a couple of months and buy 1 smaller, but more expensive item, at Dior or Louis Vuitton. Super cheap stores actually contribute a lot more to unhealthy consumerism than the expensive ones, ESPECIALLY in countries in which people in general can afford to buy more expensive stuff if the save up a little. If they have to save up to buy something that in f.ex japan would be considered cheap, now that's a totally different story. Also, if these expensive things break, it's easy to get repairs, and people would want to get repairs because it's of value to them, instead of letting it go in the trash and go out to buy a new one.

In that way, even though ayu can afford to go nuts in these stores, she contributes to making other people that like her style to buy items from these stores and thus spending less in stores like mentioned above that in a greater way contribute to the heavy toll consumers are taking on earth.

Another matter is that most of these so called luxury brands produce their items in countries that have no problem what-so-ever with release of toxins from factories or ever used child labour.

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One thing I do have to admit though, is that she indeed appears in simple clothes when she's not doing public performances, like during all the off-shots, for example. It is absolutely possible she rarely goes for such buying sprees becouse she doesn't need all that stuff on daily basis, so when there's an opportunity to get some things, she takes adventage of it (thus so much money in such a short time).
"SImple" clothes like jeans and a t-shirt doesen't neccessarily mean they are cheap.


Also, consider that the stuff is probably cheaper in HK than in japan. She can also get it tax free down there I guess.


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And no, it's not really something especially good for economy... I mean... most of that stuff is way overpriced and sold for prices that are way higher then actual production costs - so that the designers can make big bucks. I think most of the money go to the designers' pockets, not really speeding up China's economy.
No, you're right that it probably isen't particularly good for china's economy, it's mostly goes back to the companies (NOT the designers, who are hired by the companies that mostly are driven by leaders with some sort of business background. Imagine that an artist would ru(i)n a business, it would rarely work out. ).

And also I don't think that this stuff is a lot more overpriced than other goods. I know Louis Vuitton best of these companies, and their items are mostly made in France, a very few in factories in Spain and the US. Included in the cost of an item is a lifelong guarantee of free repairs. Also they use very high quality material and continuously research to improve products. And when the base cost for an item is high the final cost will be even higher because they calculate the final price by using a base cost consisting of shipping, materials, craftmanship, insurance, wages for workers and designers etc added up as f.ex. 30% of the final price. So if base makes 30 £, then the final cost would be £ 100 (£70 in pure profit) and on top of that is the tax in each country . It works the same way for every company, but for cheaper items the base costs are a lot smaller, f.ex. by using lower quality material, not hiring famous designer or using child labour and moving production to countries where they have no rules, or very light ruels on how much the factory is allowed to pollute.

Because the luxury brands are selling less items than the cheaper ones, and especially in the high end of luxury products, they have to rely upon some sales and to "live off" that profit untill they sell a new item, while companies selling cheaper items wil lhave to sell a lot over a certain amount of time to survive and to "build up" a profit. It's like herbivores that feed of plants all the time and snakes that have to take a meal every two or three months (if that made any sense).

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Old 22nd December 2006, 01:14 AM
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^I agree with every word you say. Yes, it is a lot of money, but you know, since we don't really know when she shops and stuff, there could be the possibility of buying a bunch of stuff all at once instead of a little at a time. People working in Louis Vuitton earn a living through people like her. In a marketing economy, you need this kind of stuff to occur or we'll all be stuck with sewing our own clothes.

And although luxury brand like Louis Vuitton are expensive, they last longer, and if you look into long-term effect, they are actually cheaper. I generally tend to buy stuff from DKNY or Guess (can't afford anything higher than that) because those two brands I found have jeans and shirts that last much longer than the jeans at Old Navy. In short term, I may have to spend more money, but in long term, I'm actually saving money because buying three $70 pants per year is much much cheaper than getting 8 or 9 $30 pants.

And when it comes down to it, don't judge other people by what they buy or their taste of clothing unless you know the whole story. She made the money, she decide how she's gonna do with it.
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Ayu buys BAPE stuff a lot and.. wow..

BAPE is like, king of expensive t-shirts and stuff T__T
And it IS good for the economy, since the money has to flow somehow..
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I think most of us on this forum are a bunch of rich materialistic egocentric kids anyway. We all have internet; what a waste (or luxury.. but since some ppl find luxury a waste...) of money.. let's sell our Ayu-CDs, lets walk in hideous clothes and let's give up our internet to help the poor xD tss.

besides; Ayu's done her share of charity work.. a song is born; the SUPEREXPENSIVE signed jeans-auction.....
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Yeah..

If Ayu auctioned anything off, it'd make thousands upon thousands of yen for a charity. She doesn't do it much cause then it'd get too common and etc etc.. :p
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Sounds like Paris Hilton level of spoiled rich bratty behavior. Why is everyone saying they wish they could shop with Ayu? I know it's important to appear nice and to wear designer stuff in public, I have some too. But why would anyone spend $51,000 in 2 hours?? I don't find that impressive or cool at all.
I know Ayu works hard for her money, and I know she deserves to have fun, but I just can't help thinking that there are better things to do with $51,000 and 2 hours of a famous celebrity's time than unlimited shopping.
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