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Old 30th April 2007, 12:06 AM
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well, I'm pretty much finished with this discussion.
endnote: interpret his apology whatever you like, cause he said sorry and you can't ask for more.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:10 AM
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well, I'm pretty much finished with this discussion.
endnote: interpret his apology whatever you like, cause he said sorry and you can't ask for more.
Yes we can ask for more because he messed up and he knows it. Playing the poor little victim won't help and he should make a decent apology rather than some lame excuse and putting the blame somewhere else. Most fans would've been satisfied if he said that he was wrong about her lipsynching but he didn't do it.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:11 AM
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:16 AM
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it's his opinion, you can't change it.
if he believes in it, it's his loss.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:26 AM
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it's his opinion, you can't change it.
if he believes in it, it's his loss.
Problem is an artist can either be lipsyching or not. It's supposed to be a fact not an opinion. Obviously it's going to be a big loss since most of Ayu's fans hate his guts now.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:33 AM
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Well, what can you do? your parents can inform you with something, but you have the choice to believe it or not. right?
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:36 AM
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About what? Lipsynching? Seriously it's either she was or she wasn't. I don't see what's there to believe about it. There's no way in between. If he was awake enough he would have realised that she wasn't lipsynching.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:42 AM
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perhaps he doesn't believe in what Ayu fans say?
perhaps he doesn't believe in what the organizers say?
whatever he believes, it's still his choice to believe it or not.

again, if he doesn't believe it, no one can force him to say something that he doesn't believe in.

okay, I can't continue this, it's going in circles.
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Old 30th April 2007, 12:47 AM
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This is not some political ideology or some poem open for interpretation. It's a fact - either she was lipsyching or she wasn't. And Ayumi was not lipsynching. If he doesn't believe it then he's simply ignorant and maybe he should learn more about singing since he's a singer himself. This is like how some people deny facts proven scientifically and claim it's an opinion when they're just being plain ignorant.

And yes you've been going in circles since obviously the fact of lipsynching of not is not a matter or opinion.
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Old 30th April 2007, 02:03 AM
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About what? Lipsynching? Seriously it's either she was or she wasn't. I don't see what's there to believe about it. There's no way in between. If he was awake enough he would have realised that she wasn't lipsynching.
HAHA Seriously, eh! "If your parents told you something" .. LOL
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Old 30th April 2007, 03:34 AM
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OMG..ayu_desu why you defend eason so much...
i want to be neutral like you too..but i can't
this is ayu forum right? and we love ayu so much...after eason apologize to public who get the benefit of his act? ayu or eason? the answer eason, right? and ayu just get that negatif image about her being drunk and sad because what eason say...
and i really hate eason for apology when he is promote his new album, its really show how he use this accident for boost his popularity...and its make me cant accept his apology
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Old 30th April 2007, 04:44 AM
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perhaps he doesn't believe in what Ayu fans say?
perhaps he doesn't believe in what the organizers say?
whatever he believes, it's still his choice to believe it or not.

again, if he doesn't believe it, no one can force him to say something that he doesn't believe in.

okay, I can't continue this, it's going in circles.

I doubt whether you are eason fans.
What you have talked about doesn't make sense at all.

IF:

I DIDN'T murder someone
But some stupid eason TOLD public that "Well, I think yamogi (me) had murdered someone because...."
No matter what were his reasons, he was definitely WRONG
"Opinion" can not be an excuse and WRONG is WRONG

Maybe he DID think that it is me who killed someone
But can you still say that "because he DID believe it, so we should stop blasting him even he accused me for murdering" ?

No one should distort truth.

Ayu_desu, it is all about "truth" but not "whether he believe or not".
1+1=2 is truth but if he believes 1+1=3, then can you say "Oh! he believes 1+1=3, so let so stop arguing that 1+1 SHOULD be equal to 2" ?
Even he believes, he is still guilty for " distorting the truth"

That's so simple. You need to LEARN to distinguish between "truth" and "opinion". This matter is not an argumentative essay which "opinion" works but an FACT which ONLY truth should be applied. They are different.

I "somehow" think you have logically problem and your opinions are obviously logically wrong. May you should start to learn more what "logic" is.

BTW, I think he has dirty look and almost makes me sick (I'm Chinese)
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Old 30th April 2007, 05:18 AM
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I don't know why he doesn't want to do a public apology instead of a private apology. It just gives me the whole idea that he's not even sorry for blabbing so much for all his "stupidity".

For example, this sentence.
不是!有时我会想,为什么我讲话常常都牵连那么大,搞出那么多 事,由出道到现在都是这样,我从来没想过讲出去伤害别人,只是想讲就讲,完全没机心去讲,不知会影响到那么 多人,我跟大家一样,都有一对耳、一双眼以及一个口,为什么我讲就会有那么多事
Translation: No! sometimes i just thought, why does whatever I talk has to create so much trouble and eventually become one big issue. From my debut until now, it has always being the same. I've never wanted to talk something to hurt anyone. I just talked whatever I wanted to, without any meaning or purpose to it. I'm the same like everyone. I have a pair of ear, a pair of eyes and one mouth. Why did everything that I say has to create so much trouble.

Apparently, he doesn't learn much of being how to think before speaking. Furthermore, what's with I just talked whatever I wanted to. I know that some people are very straight forward. But as an artist, it is definitely important for himself to learn how to change his "straight-forwardness" behavior. And what's with the sleeping thoughout the 2/3 of the concert, that seat he's seating should be given to other ayufans who are really appreciating her works and not to someone who sleep through the concert.
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Old 30th April 2007, 05:55 AM
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WHO IS EASON CHAN?!?!

WHO IS AYUMI HAMASAKI?!?!

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?!

WHY IS MY CAPS LOCKED?!?!
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Old 30th April 2007, 06:56 AM
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But as an artist, it is definitely important for himself to learn how to change his "straight-forwardness" behavior..
The thing is, one of the reasons why people like him in the first place is because of his "straight-forwardness".
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WHO IS EASON CHAN?!?!

WHO IS AYUMI HAMASAKI?!?!

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?!

WHY IS MY CAPS LOCKED?!?!
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Old 30th April 2007, 09:47 AM
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The thing is, one of the reasons why people like him in the first place is because of his "straight-forwardness".
Guess many people now won't like him because of his "straight-forwardness".
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Old 30th April 2007, 09:51 AM
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I'll defend Ayu until Eason give up everything and realised how supid he was to say Ayu lipsynched while she did not.

This is not the matter of opinion, the fact is : Ayu does not lipsync, the false is : Eason's opinion.
Like Yamogi said, we can't just say :"HE believes 1+1=3 then just leave him so"
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Old 30th April 2007, 10:01 AM
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no matter how 'music god' he is...yes he have some nice songs that is worth listening to...but if he can't be respectful to other ppl (mainly other artists) and can't be responsible for what he say to the public, media; will not think before saying things, just say whatever he wants in his mind not caring if he will insult other ppl, he's just a crap person.
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Old 30th April 2007, 10:43 AM
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