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Old 11th April 2009, 10:34 AM
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I prefer Britney Spears. She makes R&B music which I love more than rock music which Ayu's making nowadays. :p
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Old 11th April 2009, 10:48 AM
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britney makes rnb music lol ??
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Old 11th April 2009, 07:23 PM
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Old 11th April 2009, 08:08 PM
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Don't forget that Britney's career was built around shock value. She was one of the first teenage artists to really get into that innocent/****ty mix that gave America's parents a collective heart attack (I can't say how Europe felt about it because I honestly don't know). That is MASSIVE publicity. Honestly, she basically brought that trend into the mainstream.

She still tries to be shocking, but recent efforts have just been...well...pathetic. For example, the "If U Seek Amy" gimmick...is that what she has to do now to get attention? Spell out the f-word? Fantastic job, Brit...

Musically, a lot of her songs are catchy--especially the slick, pulsating electronic ones of the past few years--but her lyrics are filthy and more or less cliche by this point (and the dirtiness makes the few that aren't nasty seem bizarre to say the least). There's no sincerity.

That's what I like about Ayu most of all. Sincerity.
While maybe Britney does get some attention for her sex appeal, I've barely watched any of her video clips or performances. I've been interested in her music because it's kinda undeniable that she makes infectious pop for people who actually aren't so extremely picky about what they will listen to. Almost 8 years ago or so I started liking her songs because they'd constantly play her over the gym, but I stopped going to gym and listening to radio so I lost interest, but then 5 years ago I start going to clubs and her songs were everywhere, so I couldn't help but get exposed again and enjoy it lol. About her lyrics, her music still makes success in countries that don't speak english, so the whole "her messed up lyrics is what makes her career" is BS.

I do agree that the F word thing on the amy song was oxymoron though

However I have to be honest. I think Britney works with better producers. ayu is way too stuck with H/\L and CMJK. I can't see how ayu is "so independent" over britney if she can hardly ever try something different for her career. It's always the very same team of people producing her songs. While people say ayu is the one who choose what she's going to do, sometimes it sounds more like H/\L and CMJK just go and say "this is what we want ayu to sing".

Overall I do prefer ayu in general, but I do like Britney's music a lot.
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Old 11th April 2009, 11:24 PM
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A lot of people are saying that Britney is using sex appeal bla bla bla... Sure she's quite sexual, that's true. But what about Ayu? She uses her sexiness too. Have you seen "my name's WOMEN" PV? And "1LOVE"? If you're going to criticize Britney, why don't you do the same to Ayu? She did pose in bikinis when she was super young. What about those covers where she's topless? Yes, it isn't as extreme as Britney, but it's still using sex appeal.
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Old 11th April 2009, 11:30 PM
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Sex appeal works with some idols, and not with others. Music isn't just about the lyrics and the instrumentals unfortunately..in todays industry, it's also about your image and how you market yourself.

Britney has her image and Ayu has hers. They are both very very different and to use sex appeal as a category to compare them is really impossible.

Also, to judge them on their image is also unfair.
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Old 11th April 2009, 11:39 PM
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Obviously Britbrit. Ayu is an old tranny going into a madonna thaaaang. We need more vadge and less vampire.

J/k. I really don't preffer one over the other.
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Old 11th April 2009, 11:41 PM
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Obviously Britbrit. Ayu is an old tranny going into a madonna thaaaang. We need more vadge and less vampire.
LOL!! XDDD

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britney makes rnb music lol ??
Maybe not R&B, but she does use some hip hop elements in her songs, take Toy Solider, for example. I'm A Slave 4 U charted on the Hip Hop Top 100, or whatever that chart is called, in the US.
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And if she's not the biggest singer on the planet, who is?
The man who just sold out 50 shows in London this year.

If Brit can do that in 25 years, I'll take everything I said back. I know Ayu certainly wouldn't be able to either. But my point wasn't so much to compare Ayu and Britney. I was just pointing out that IMO Britney is not as influential as people think she is. She's a household name for pretty much all the wrong reasons.
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The man who just sold out 50 shows in London this year.
QFT! (And really fast too.)

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If Brit can do that in 25 years, I'll take everything I said back. I know Ayu certainly wouldn't be able to either. But my point wasn't so much to compare Ayu and Britney. I was just pointing out that IMO Britney is not as influential as people think she is. She's a household name for pretty much all the wrong reasons.
This too, to a point.

To be honest I don't really think there should be a comparing of Britney and Ayu. They're both pretty different in their own way. I respect both as artists/musicians but I prefer Ayu. Then again that could be because I only know of 3 Britney Spears songs at most.

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Old 15th April 2009, 01:47 PM
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I don't like Britney... but even if I think that Ayu is a good musician (not amazing, but with amazing producers) and one of the best pop performers in the world right now (and one of my personal top3), I doin't think that she is a goddess either...

My 2 cents:

Britney: She can't sing? Whatever, her fans don't care, why shold I? I don't like the lack of deepness on Britney's work, but not every singer needs to be deep and to ME, this is a important point... I can see artistic interest on Ayu's work (even in releasing Next Level, an album that doesn't have many garantees of good selling) but I can't see this on Britney's... I don't think people will remember her music in 20, 30 years, but I think Ayu will have a impact on asian music industry after she retires... but AGAIN, this is importante only to me! I can't say that Ayu is better than Britney just because Britney does only comercial music, while ayu IMO tries to have her amount of comercial and artistic success (pretty much like Madonna). If Britney is famous, that means there are people who enjoy her works, and if there are people who enjoy her works, I can't say she is not good, even if she isn't by my own standarts, Ayu isn't good either by a lot of people standarts....

But I don't think they both can be compared... to me:

Britney: Pop product, and a very good one, by the way... She offers something to her fans and she is pretty good in doing what she do... She uses the hottest music producers, make sure she have the hottest show producers and is aways in the style of the period of her albums... Pretty much like Koda Kumi.

Ayu: Something between a pop product and an artist... She wanna have more deepness on her work and sometimes it causes her to flop badly (the amount of people who dislikes Rainbow and Next Level for example kind of chocked me... 2 of Ayu deeper albums IMO), she plays more on her own style side than in the "what's on" side, but aways with hints of catchy pop music on singles... pretty much like Madonna
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Old 15th April 2009, 06:12 PM
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The man who just sold out 50 shows in London this year.

If Brit can do that in 25 years, I'll take everything I said back. I know Ayu certainly wouldn't be able to either. But my point wasn't so much to compare Ayu and Britney. I was just pointing out that IMO Britney is not as influential as people think she is. She's a household name for pretty much all the wrong reasons.
100% agreed
And the possibilities of her achieving what MJ or other big acts have achieved is technically impossible due to low album sales... I mean, no act from now on will be able to record 30-million-copies albums like in the good times
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Maybe not R&B, but she does use some hip hop elements in her songs, take Toy Solider, for example. I'm A Slave 4 U charted on the Hip Hop Top 100, or whatever that chart is called, in the US.
i cant call it hip hop nor rnb, its ok if there's little influence you can hear, but still not enough to call britney rnb artist, at least imo.
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Old 15th April 2009, 07:44 PM
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i cant call it hip hop nor rnb, its ok if there's little influence you can hear, but still not enough to call britney rnb artist, at least imo.
True. Her music is more like urban pop.
Not hip-hop, not R&B.
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Old 15th April 2009, 09:53 PM
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Britney. She knows how to entertain and give pop music that the masses will like.

The girl is bouncing back and adored by tons even after she had a huge breakdown. She's getting herself up and I only see good things coming from her. She works with really great people. She knows what she wants for her records.

Regarding the 30mil thing. No one will anymore. So for where she's at and who she is, she's one of the best known Female Pop singers of all time. Undeniable.

Ayumi to me is now a one trick pony. Makes a bland overly produce rock song using producers that have been used before for her sugary bubblegum jpop stuff. It just doesn't work. NEXT LEVEL to me seems appropriate... She didn't quote it as "NEXT LEVEL up" so to me it's next level down in a downward spiral of losing her focus.

She's been working nonstop since she started. She's probably surviving on steam right now. She needs to take time off and really focus on herself. Try and find a new direction. Her idol Madonna did it and it worked to her benefit.

If she doesn't we'll probably get more music that sounds identical to Blue Bird/Beautiful Fighter again.
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True. Her music is more like urban pop.
Not hip-hop, not R&B.
Not saying you're wrong, but usually "urban" is used to describe hip hop music. So, it's like saying she makes a hybrid of pop and hip hop? I dunno, I always called her a pop singer But, I agree that she is by no means an R&B singer.
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Old 16th April 2009, 05:12 AM
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Ayumi Hamasaki is an artist while Britney Spears is a produced singer. That should clear up my position in this haha.
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I prefer Ayu by far, but Brit's growing on me...
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Old 17th April 2009, 07:33 AM
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I think Britney was cool the first time around (late 90's) but anymore? I'd have to say Ayu... but I do agree Britney has branched out a bit more.

But let's just stick with Ayu for my answer.
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