The largest Ayu fandom meltdowns~

[relmy]

Didn't Mannie post on Twitter saying the divorce was a lie too? Or something like that.

That was fun.

[channy]

Mannie was certainly just kidding. He played with Ayu's appalled fans and enjoyed their reactions. He never was married with Ayu, it's likely that he's not even into women, so...

[douggn]

Originally Posted by channy

Mannie was certainly just kidding. He played with Ayu's appalled fans and enjoyed their reactions. He never was married with Ayu, it's likely that he's not even into women, so...

He's probably just poo pooing because ayu found and has a working marrage with an american husband , but he is the one who seems to post to her and tease about his past relationship

[Machiko]

Originally Posted by channy

Mannie was certainly just kidding. He played with Ayu's appalled fans and enjoyed their reactions. He never was married with Ayu, it's likely that he's not even into women, so...

wait what?

[TeamAyu2004]

Maybe it was leather night at the time of filming?
lol

[emi♡]

I don't even understand why her dancers were in leathers in the first place. They looked out of place or like they were there specifically to join the others in the lifestyle there.

Except there wasn't anyone else there wearing leathers and we didn't see anyone else in any kind of *sexual play party* behavior. So why were they dressed that way? Probably novelty.

But I mean it just looked like Ayu dancing at one club. She didn't even go to multiple ones lol

lulz. idk. All I found out is that Ayu and people here don't understand leather clubs/dungeons/public play spaces, or drag and costume clubs.

I don't think she was stereotyping gay people with the setting, but I think she may have been stereotyping when she just assumed they should wear leathers instead of other costumes.


And I'll just say. Not all leather clubs or public play spaces include full on sex. However, many of them have regulations for safe sex, biohazard materials, and against drug use. The sex that goes on there is safer than the sex you have at home oftentimes.

[mizuki-7]

The director of this MV is gay himself so... of course it's stereotyped but I don't blame Ayumi for this in the making of you can see that's the idea of the director !

[November4]

Originally Posted by mizuki-7

The director of this MV is gay himself so... of course it's stereotyped but I don't blame Ayumi for this in the making of you can see that's the idea of the director !

Out of curiosity, Kazuyoshi is the director? Isn't that the perv who did Super Mannie and made Ayu look like a blowfish in photoshoots for 2 years or am I confused? If so that explains loads LOL. He's like an Asian Terry Richardson.

[emi♡]

Originally Posted by November4

Out of curiosity, Kazuyoshi is the director? Isn't that the perv who did Super Mannie and made Ayu look like a blowfish in photoshoots for 2 years or am I confused? If so that explains loads LOL. He's like an Asian Terry Richardson.

...who even are you.

But no, Kazu did not shoot Super Mannie.


This thread is officially a trainwreck.

[ayupan90]

Originally Posted by emi♡

...who even are you.

But no, Kazu did not shoot Super Mannie.


This thread is officially a trainwreck.

LOL agreed.

Leslie Kee made Super Mannie. There was a big drama about it.

[Majutsu]

Party Queen. As I've mentioned before in another post, this album did not at all feel like it belonged to Ayu. Not every song was bad; the ones I liked, I listened to on a loop. But the overall feel of the album as well as the cover art I found really off- putting. I get what she was going for with this album, and the art kind of gives off an Edie Sedgwick vibe, but in my opinion, Ayu looked like she was crazy uncomfortable. I was a little upset with Avex trying to market her like that. Everyone knows that she's not sleazy; that's one of the main reasons I'm such a die- hard fan, and frankly, I think the whole "suggestive poses in her undies" look is something that was utterly unnecessary and insulting to Ayu's persona in general. There's a difference between being flirty and playful and being trashy. I don't know why they decided to go the latter route with this one.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by Majutsu

Party Queen. As I've mentioned before in another post, this album did not at all feel like it belonged to Ayu. Not every song was bad; the ones I liked, I listened to on a loop. But the overall feel of the album as well as the cover art I found really off- putting. I get what she was going for with this album, and the art kind of gives off an Edie Sedgwick vibe, but in my opinion, Ayu looked like she was crazy uncomfortable. I was a little upset with Avex trying to market her like that. Everyone knows that she's not sleazy; that's one of the main reasons I'm such a die- hard fan, and frankly, I think the whole "suggestive poses in her undies" look is something that was utterly unnecessary and insulting to Ayu's persona in general. There's a difference between being flirty and playful and being trashy. I don't know why they decided to go the latter route with this one.

I wonder if it was more of a move on her own part since we know Party Queen had a different shoot that became SUPER Ayu (and probably was for the most part going to be a part of that Party Queen photobook that never got released). I also am thinking that maybe Leslie had something to do with the cover art tbh.

[November4]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I wonder if it was more of a move on her own part since we know Party Queen had a different shoot that became SUPER Ayu (and probably was for the most part going to be a part of that Party Queen photobook that never got released). I also am thinking that maybe Leslie had something to do with the cover art tbh.

Maybe she got into drugs. <_< The album certainly sounds like it.

[ayupan90]

Originally Posted by Majutsu

Party Queen. As I've mentioned before in another post, this album did not at all feel like it belonged to Ayu. Not every song was bad; the ones I liked, I listened to on a loop. But the overall feel of the album as well as the cover art I found really off- putting. I get what she was going for with this album, and the art kind of gives off an Edie Sedgwick vibe, but in my opinion, Ayu looked like she was crazy uncomfortable. I was a little upset with Avex trying to market her like that. Everyone knows that she's not sleazy; that's one of the main reasons I'm such a die- hard fan, and frankly, I think the whole "suggestive poses in her undies" look is something that was utterly unnecessary and insulting to Ayu's persona in general. There's a difference between being flirty and playful and being trashy. I don't know why they decided to go the latter route with this one.

ayu loved the Party Queen cover art and strongly defended it when people misunderstood it and claimed she was using sex to sell. She was never uncomfortable with it, she's far too powerful to agree to something she doesnt believe in.

[Leaf King]

Party Queen.
First marriage.
Maro.

[ayuinh.k?]

Timmy.

[Ashen Twilight]

I've always assumed that the lyrics to Lady Dynamite were about individualism and refuting the the majority; being the person you want to be in spite of outside pressures.

[primavera♥]

About ayu being a party queen, November4, ayu can actually be quite the partier. At least that is what I can imply from what I know of her. And then there are times when she really is. And I really don't think she's uncomfortable, whether or not people like the covers. Just like I don't think she's uncomfortable with her Facebook profile picture being her ass.

To say that it would fit kuu and namie more just seems like a way to brand them based off their general image.

And idk what you're even talking about regarding gay stereotypes. Well, I think I do. But I'm not about to discuss people being irked by others fulfilling a stereotype on the forum for ayu.

[November4]

Originally Posted by primavera♥

About ayu being a party queen, November4, ayu can actually be quite the partier. At least that is what I can imply from what I know of her. And then there are times when she really is. And I really don't think she's uncomfortable, whether or not people like the covers. Just like I don't think she's uncomfortable with her Facebook profile picture being her ass.

To say that it would fit kuu and namie more just seems like a way to brand them based off their general image.

And idk what you're even talking about regarding gay stereotypes. Well, I think I do. But I'm not about to discuss people being irked by others fulfilling a stereotype on the forum for ayu.

Ironically I was just looking for "funny Ayu pics" and ran across those old photos of her partying, drinking and smoking. So yeah she might be a "party queen" in real life, but I don't think she's ever been branded as one. She was always branded more as a down-to-earth girl or flashy diva with ballads and happy tracks, right? Whereas Kumi and Namie have been branded as "party queens".

You're right about personality, that might be completely different from the branding. But because of the branding, I think the Party Queen concept kinda failed... About the ass pic: lol! Okay maybe just the -pose- looks uncomfortable then, with the missing arm/leg and such. OR does it look intentionally uncomfortable to go with the theme? ;D

Anyhow I think that whole era was just confusing and off-putting for fans because of how she has always been "branded". Not to mention it doesn't really have a hit song on it. At least LOVE again has You & Me and sorta Wake me up. Party Queen has... Well it has good tracks but I don't think she'll be playing any of them in 10 years.

And yeah I lost track of the conversation on that subject halfway as well. s_s

[tsumekaze_]

Originally Posted by kendelle

Mannie liked a link I posted on Facebook today about how domestic violence against males is normalised compared to against females and I admit I did come here to check if someone had taken it out of context and posted it saying he was calling Ayu abusive or something....

That meltdown with the "psycho ex" post was pretty funny. Maybe we should have an AHS awards category for funniest meltdown in the future

omg. So what if she actually is a psycho and used domestic violence against mannie and then maro?! that would explain the whole violence mess on snowy kiss and at12.

LOL just jkin but it could make sense XD