Thoughts on Alterna PV - Page 6

~Amy~ · #**101** 22nd July 2005, 12:05 AM

I just don't understand...
Why do they hate Ayu?
And I know they tried to replace but... Don't try to that with all of stars because they can't go on forever you know...
Please don't get angry I just never really saw anything wrong with AVEX.
To get us back on topic I think that the clowns are the people who do tabloids.

shinde · #**102** 22nd July 2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Because of the pace with which they had Ayu work, especially in 2000-2002. Granted I'm sure some of that was Ayu herself wanting to work so hard, but I think it definitely put Avex in a negative light. Check out Masa's site(link at the top of the page) to read why he feels she should go to another record company.

Sorry for going off topic...Can someone give a brief summary of what Max Matsuura said? I don't understand Japanese....

Why does he feel that she should go to another record company?

masa · #**103** 22nd July 2005, 12:10 AM

I have one question. What is the meaning of "alterna"? There is no such word in my dictionary. Is it just "another self"?

SunshineSlayer · #**104** 22nd July 2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by masa

I agree with CREA's clear interpretation.
I don't know how much she was involved in this scenario. But I'm sure she presented the concept of this PV, because it's just like her. Weird, ridiculous, funny, sad, critical, and really innovative. I'm glad she has come back with this excellent song and PV. The lyrics are very good, too. But I can't catch several words for now. If I can catch all, I'll translate this.

Thanks Masa.

A translation would be great.

SunshineSlayer · #**105** 22nd July 2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by masa

I have one question. What is the meaning of "alterna"? There is no such word in my dictionary. Is it just "another self"?

Alterna doesn't REALLY have a meaning in english, but it could be seen as meaning shifting to another reality - like the power struggle between Avex and Ayu keeps shifting back and forth.

Someone mentioned that it might be Latin, but I don't know what the latin meaning would be.

~Amy~ · #**106** 22nd July 2005, 12:12 AM

Yes a translation would be REALLY great. lol *laughs*
Thank you masa. ^_^

elepop · #**107** 22nd July 2005, 12:14 AM

Some people says that "alterna" is a spanish word. It's also in the french dictionary but with a "t" at the end.

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Originally Posted by ~Amy~

I just don't understand...
Why do they hate Ayu?

Do not jump into a conclusion so fast. It was a "rumor". An article about all that was released in tabloids. In the article, one of the reason is because Ayu used to make 45% of their money, but not anymore. Something like that.

SunshineSlayer · #**108** 22nd July 2005, 12:17 AM

Basically the rumor is that Ayu got too powerful and has too much pull in Avex right now, hence a lot of the people resent her. Even though it's those same people that insisted on working her to death for those first couple years so that she would make them lots of money.(which she did)

shinde · #**109** 22nd July 2005, 12:21 AM

but wouldn't it be good for Avex if Ayu was making so much money for them? why do they resent her?

~Amy~ · #**110** 22nd July 2005, 12:22 AM

Alright okay. I see now.
I can't wait to see the lyrics "translation" to the song it'll help us to understand the song maybe. ^_^

elepop · #**111** 22nd July 2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shinde

but wouldn't it be good for Avex if Ayu was making so much money for them? why do they resent her?

Well, that was then. She doesn't make that much (more than most artists though) money for them anymore. She used to make 45% of their profits. Now, it's much much lower. (keep in mind that AVEX now has tons of artists in the company, unlike before)

But didn't Ayu sort of helped the company while they were going through depts?

Anyway, we are sort of out of the main subject. LOL!

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Originally Posted by ~Amy~

Alright okay. I see now.
I can't wait to see the lyrics "translation" to the song it'll help us to understand the song maybe. ^_^

Same here! Plus, the romaji. So I can sing!

shinde · #**112** 22nd July 2005, 12:31 AM

^I see....

yes...thank you masa in advance for the translation! ^^

bernardation · #**113** 22nd July 2005, 12:41 AM

i'm still too shocked to say anything.

the only thing i can say is that i'm so curious to see what kind of mvs she's going to make in the future.

~Amy~ · #**114** 22nd July 2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX

Well, that was then. She doesn't make that much (more than most artists though) money for them anymore. She used to make 45% of their profits. Now, it's much much lower. (keep in mind that AVEX now has tons of artists in the company, unlike before)

But didn't Ayu sort of helped the company while they were going through depts?

Anyway, we are sort of out of the main subject. LOL!

Same here! Plus, the romaji. So I can sing!

lol! I agree! Karaoke time!!! lol ^_^

(btw, sorry for putting us off topic)
I really wonder what Alterna means...

~Amy~ · #**115** 22nd July 2005, 12:55 AM

I think Alterna is a french word. I looked it up on this site and I tried spanish and latin but there were no match yet in french it mean alternated...
http://www.freedict.com/onldict/fre.html

(also i tried some japanese words that i knew and the dictionary was right so I THINK it's a pretty accurate dictionary, could be wrong...)

Larisa-chan · #**116** 22nd July 2005, 01:07 AM

@.@ what a freaky PV... it's AWESOME though, one of her best in a long, long time. I loved the message it was portraying and it was accomplished so artistically! It had an actually storyline, none of you complain about that lol!! Ayu played her parts so well~ she looked a little TOO much like Madonna though in the white outfit >>

The part right before she's on stage.. I think it says "Stage of Brightness" O.o

mui-gei-tal · #**117** 22nd July 2005, 01:20 AM

i think this video...was VERY VERY different from her previous work, and it is GOOD! it is very different and very representive! i think this PV represents alot of music artists in this industry...all of them are used for makin' huge sum of money then they are dumped when they are not needed no more. ayu is very tough and could easily depict this situation of fearin' what other people may say...

and i like how rock this song is...i love it!

somehow...the white ayu reminded me of madonna...

lotusoka · #**118** 22nd July 2005, 01:24 AM

i agree with the comparison to the Ourselves PV. which is one of my favorites, so naturally I really enjoyed this one. Not to mention I loved alterna the first time I heard it.

SheFliesHigher · #**119** 22nd July 2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer

Actually it's not Rob Zombie, but I am almost certain that that is Sid Haig who starred in Rob Zombie's movie "House of 1000 Corpses." Here's a pic of him from that movie: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/02517...ey=Haig,%20Sid

Either Ayu saw House of 1000 Corpses and specifically asked for Sid Haig to be in her video, or she got someone that was a look alike.

Also in the white get up I think she mostly looks like Madonna, but a little like Gwen too.

Whoa, he really does look like that clown. How weird would it be if it really was the same guy?

Xianghua · #**120** 22nd July 2005, 01:34 AM

I was scared when I first saw this PV. But then once I thought about the meaning of it, I appreciated it more. Overall it was a well thought out PV. ^^