Ayu-hate in Japan?

[truehappiness]

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ [this person is japanese] And she says that Ayu sounds like a 3 y/o and can be compared to the likes of Hilary and Britney...

x.x
Zeo

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by Rody!

The only person that can be compared with Ayu's state is Yuming. Not many people know her anymore, though she is still highly respected in Japan.

Not everyone in Japan is 15-20 years old. Do you think all the people who listened to Yumi Arai in the 1970's and 1980's and 1990's and 2000's just forgot she ever existed?

I'm just picking out this comment to restate what I've posted before. Ayu is not the all-important person that some people seem to think she is. She isn't the center of the Japanese cultural universe. I'm only hoping to add some perspective to this topic.

[boogieordie]

Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar

thats right, the audience arent permanent, they change everyday...

Actually, Surreal meant the same audience on the same day.

I don't know if any of you guys have been in a studio audience before, but from my experiences they generally don't want any any overly-spontaneous, or should I say, random, reactions. I went to the Tonight Show and they had applause signs and the like. That there happen to be shots where there is no reaction from the audience doesn't mean that they all hate her. In fact, it'd probably be more disrespectful to be disruptive in that situation. Since Surreal has caps of them clapping at her entrance, I don't see how they were being rude or snubbing her, and if they were, so what? No one can be liked by everyone.

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ x.x
Zeo

don't worry~!

my friend had an exchange student and when she asked her who she liked she said she liked Ayu alot and i met her and i told her i liked Ayu and she did the peace sign and said "MEE TOO!"

[Coelacanth]

Best selling Japanese artists -

01. B'z; 71,878,000
02. Mr. Children; 46,207,000
03. SOUTHERN ALL STARS; 43,937,000
04. Ayumi Hamasaki; 41,074,000
05. DREAMS COME TRUE; 40,065,000
06. Yumi Matsutoya; 37,594,000
07. GLAY; 35,798,000
08. ZARD; 35,451,000
09. Hikaru Utada; 32,158,000
10. CHAGE & ASKA; 31,192,000

Most of those artists in the top 10 still sell great today. And Ayu is almost ahead of SAS, whom have been out 25+ years.. I think Ayu has a strong (and dedicated) enough fanbase to help her for another 10 years.

Although a lot of people may hate her for whatever reasons, SHE STILL IS A DOMINATING ARTIST. I'm sick of these declining popularity threads..

[Qt Mashi]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

06. Yumi Matsutoya; 37,594,000

is she "Yumming"??

[Coelacanth]

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi

is she "Yumming"??

Yep.

[ame-no-koe]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

I'm kind of worried for ayu, as some people I know say that no japanese person they have met have liked ayu.. :\ [this person is japanese] And she says that Ayu sounds like a 3 y/o and can be compared to the likes of Hilary and Britney...

x.x
Zeo

you didn't read my post ><

[truehappiness]

Huh? I was talking just randomly about someone who said it recently.. x.x xD

Anyways, this wasn't meant to be a declining popularity thing, but more of a reaction to some public ayu hate xD I think she's still marvelous and <3

Zeo

[HvnSntGurl]

I didn't like Ayu at first. I think it's normal though for someone as popular as her to have people hate her because she's everywhere. Some famous stars I can't stand because there EVERYWHERE. So thats probably why some people don't like her.

[Surreal]

Namie : Yes they did clap and cheer when the host introduced Ayu . But went quiet once the talk began. (this is the case for every celebrity. the audiences are usually very respectful in japan)

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

Best selling Japanese artists -
01. B'z; 71,878,000
02. Mr. Children; 46,207,000
03. SOUTHERN ALL STARS; 43,937,000
04. Ayumi Hamasaki; 41,074,000

WOW!! 3 MILLION MORE AND SHE'S TOP 3!!! I cant wait for my copy of HEAVEN! Saturday Saturday Saturday!!!

[lovia]

WAITWAIT

i think u shouldnt compare it like this... u have to see who are the other guests on that show... and in the 10th Sept music station, Kanjani 8 and Exile is there.. so perhaps.. the girls whom we saw are their fans... and another thing mayb i wanna point out ... this maynot be true but this is what i get from most of my fellow web friends... many johnny fans hate ayu.. =\ bcoz of sales...yeah.. no offence to johnny fans.. but this is what i got feedback from...
so perhaps see this in a positive way.. perhaps they are not ayu fans thats why... so what if u are the most popular artiste? there will still be people who are not your fan, right? so cool down people =)

[ayu_fan929]

Originally Posted by bluegie

Talking about ayu and hikki... Like every people said hikki hasn't released anything for over 1.5 years. So even as a fan I dunno what impact she can make in Be My Last. If you say she gets less popular then how can she get the highest album sales last year (note: orange range's musiQ got 2.5 million copies as well... but they released it so late so it wasn't included in last year chart? or maybe half of their sales was included?). IF hikki sold less than 20K in the first week, then she's not that popular. Her last single did sold only around 15K, but first the cover is ugly, second the pv is ugly, and third she released the pv 1.5 weeks after the single had released.

1) actually, hikki's previous single sold 400K, overselling all of ayu's '04 singles.
2) yes, hikki was '04's best seller by far. hikki beat 2nd place mr. children by ~800K
3) musiQ will b included in the 2005 top 100 even tho it was released in dec '04. the reason? ORICON ends their sales year on the last wednesday of november.

Originally Posted by Rody!

Well.... Namie Amuro may have been very popular before Ayu's era, but she is NOWHERE near Ayu's stage.. Utada Hikaru also is not a queen. She is a musician. If you'd ask people in Japan: "who is ayumi hamasaki?" they would say "A superstar / the queen of jpop", but if you'd ask "who is utada hikaru?" they would say "An amazing singer". And that's exactly what Utada is. An amazing singer, NOT some overproduced jpop idol pushed to the top to reign over Japan...

actually i think if namie amuro didn't get married n have a child, sadly to say, i would think she would be more popular than ayu, at least at the turn of 2000. even tho namie was only jpop queen for 2yrs, her influence during the 2 yrs were huge. in '96 she was the youngest artist to sell over 10 million copies in 1 yr, which ayu has never done b4. namie is also credited w/many trends (mayb even more than ayu), the most famous is the dying of the hair (forgot wuts it called in japanese), this trend is still popular today.
as for hikki, i agree shes a musician, but i would still consider to b a queen, the queen of jmusic.
ayu's decline? japanese ppl r just tired n want sumthing new? age could play an important factor, sum ppl mite think ayu's getting too old to be in the idol industry nemore n would rather move on to sumthing new like BoA or otsuka ai or koda kumi or mika.

neways: jmusic queens= namie amuro (96-97), hikki (98-01, ayu (99-01)

[emi♡]

namie amuro=short skirts and tall boots i love it

i think that Ayu will only ever (if ever) decline in Japan, although i dont think she will. She will always have her fans overseas because for the reasons the japanese "hate" her, we don't have those reasons, like seeing her on TV in magazines, on billboards, etc. I think i would go crazt if i was in Japan and saw Ayu on TV...

we are not overexposed to Ayu, its quite the opposite we want more... and i think Ayu will continue to make music for as long as she wants to, even if she has to do it without Avex.

[LacusClyne]

come on guys, relax....didn't anyone read mine post in page 4??? i have gotten answers from those friends who did not like ayu.
and yes, i agree with lovia that some johnny's fans hated ayu. some are because of totally stupid reasons. but there would defintly be ayu's haters from TOKIO, it's very normal in japan, or why you think those management companies in japan don't allow their artists to have a love life.
but thankfully, we still have people in japan who will still support ayu even she had a boyfriend, that shows that ayu is no longer a pop icon that only youngters will like. in my opion, instead of debating whether there are ayu haters, i rather try my best to change the ayu haters to ayu lovers.

[Qt Mashi]

why would Johnny's fans hate Ayu??

[ayu_fan929]

^well i guess miyuchan specifically meant TOKIO fans (but TOKIO is part of Johnny's, n also mayb cos of the HEAVEN vs. K8 battle?) but yea TOKIO fans hate ayu cos shes going out w/nagase (i think hes like the kimutaku of TOKIO ie: the most well-liked out of the group [i think, im not sure])

[Qt Mashi]

^hehe icic so some Tomoya Nagase fan girls are jealous of Ayu hehe

anyone here who is jealous of Tomoya because he's going out with Ayumi ?

...i am...!!!

[lovia]

not only that actually... i say earlier it is becoz of sales and ranking.. many of them say ayu has always been on the top of the chart and some of their fav johnny group didnt manage to get the top spot is becoz of her...
about TOKIO stuff.. from what i know, they dont take it seriously to make them feel angry... it mostly have to do with the cd ranking and stuff....